CQWW Log Submittal !!!

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Mon Nov 29 23:54:57 EST 1993


When is CQ going to enter the 20th century. Why do they STILL require
disk AND PAPER LOGS???? The ARRL is light years ahead of CQ in this
matter with BBS and FTP/internet uploads or mailing only a disk. We
just printed out the VP2VFP logs for CQWW SSB and there was a stack of
paper 2" thick!! How many trees do we have to kill before they get the
picture? If anyone else feels this way about paper logs, how about
expressing your opinion to CQ or on the CQWW summary sheet.

73's tim



>From Sylvan Katz <sylvank at syma.sussex.ac.uk>  Tue Nov 30 08:55:10 1993
From: Sylvan Katz <sylvank at syma.sussex.ac.uk> (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 8:55:10 WET
Subject: CT Protocol
Message-ID: <1639.9311300855 at syma.sussex.ac.uk>

Does anyone have the communication protocol that CT uses? Also does
anyone have access to the format for the various CT files? We want to grab
and change some messages that CT send to the various stations.

A great time was had by all at GB5DX. Not sure yet what the final score
was but by Sunday 1800Z we had about 4100 Q's and 5.5M points. I expect
that we will have made about 4500 Q's and 6-7M.

Thanks
Sylvan
VE5ZX/G0TZX

                       *** Dr. J. Sylvan Katz *** 
 Science Policy Research Unit, Mantell Building, University of Sussex,
               Falmer, Brighton, East Sussex, UK  BN1 9RF 
		Tel: (273) 686758 ext 3617  Fax: (273) 685865
				G0TZX & VE5ZX


>From hatcher_d <hatcher_d at bt-web.bt.co.uk>  Tue Nov 30 10:57:53 1993
From: hatcher_d <hatcher_d at bt-web.bt.co.uk> (hatcher_d)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:57:53 +0000
Subject: CT Protocols ...


Hi All,

I have reverse engineered some of the more useful parts of the CT data 
transfer protocol. Things like:

LOG data
Talk/Gab messages
Pass messages
Cluster Traffic to and from the network.

Anyone with some interest mail me direct.

As an aside, I wonder what Ken would think about all this. Maybe there 
is a market for CT "add-ons" ???

As the subject of protocols is about, I had an idea of scrapping the 
COMTSR system for one that would use IPX messaging, cheap ethernet 
cards and thin ethernet as a transport medium. This would have fewer 
need for serial ports (none) and would run at a much higher data rate.
For a contest network, you would build a small LAN, each station with an 
ethernet card, bit like what we do in the office.

The problem is I'd need to get hold of the hooks from CT to the COMTSR 
and then on to the IPX messaging part of the system. The bottom line 
is that we need to know what CT speaks to the COMTSR so that a 
differing TSR or other mechanism can be put in its place. Anyone got a 
definition of what goes on here? Anyone tried this or something like it?
Comments?

Darren - G7BKO - Secretary Martlesham RS

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>From D.RODMAN" <OOPDAVID at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu  Tue Nov 30 12:08:50 1993
From: D.RODMAN" <OOPDAVID at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (D.RODMAN)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 07:08:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CT Protocols ...
Message-ID: <01H5X1KWFI6E8WWIGA at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>

About two years ago, we (KN2M) tried the LAND approach using Novell
and tied 3 stations together.  There appeared to be two problems 
initiated by this approach.  First the computers were still hard wired
and RF was capable of traversing the serial lines (the ones we used 
for the actual connects).  The Novell LAN was used to speed backing
up data and the server was non-dedicated 486.  The system seemed to 
run for a few hours but about 4 hrs into the test one or more 
computers started to mis-communicate.  That error was ultimately 
traced to RF and was cured by installing fiberoptic communication
lines.  The second problem was noted that the server was just too
overloaded by data keeping.  Although it was perferable to me in 
theory to have ONE source of loging data for the contest, the LAN
would not permit this.  Ultimately, the computer using the Novell portion
and actually running CT started to miss spots.  I asked Ken to 
rewrite the software after consulting with my Novell experts in town.
Ken agreed, in principle to do this, but after 6 or so months of
begging him for a solution we both agreed that he is just TOO busy
to change the RS232 to a LAN approach (with any software not only
Novell).  I believe that the EASIEST thing to do is provide each
computer in the chain with a 4-Comm board and put the idea of
a LAN on the back burner.  This will maximize your versatility with
the present software and use it with the indended drivers.  I doubt
with Ken's work load he will complete this request in the near future.
At least, he hasn't spoken to me about it.  73, Dave.

>From D.RODMAN" <OOPDAVID at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu  Tue Nov 30 12:15:47 1993
From: D.RODMAN" <OOPDAVID at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (D.RODMAN)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 07:15:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CT Protocols ... (More)
Message-ID: <01H5X24MMWEA8WWCKD at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>

Just to clarify my earlier message:  When we cured the RS232
RF problem by installing fiberoptic lines we still had an RF path
with the Ethernet cards and RG58.  That was probably the reason
why the computer connected to the server continued to have rare
problems.  The server would, after a few thousand QSOs, take 5 
minutes or more to rebuild its files whenever we put them in synch
after losing communications from RF down the Ethernet cards.  The 
system now works flawlessly: I use fiberoptic for the RS232 and removed
the Ethernet cards.  Dave.

>From Randy A Thompson <K5ZD at world.std.com>  Tue Nov 30 12:31:37 1993
From: Randy A Thompson <K5ZD at world.std.com> (Randy A Thompson)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 07:31:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: K5ZD WWCW Score/Breakdowns
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9311300737.A873-0100000 at world.std.com>

Great contest to be in W1!  Congratulations to K1KI on the win.

Here is my score and breakdowns.  If you pay by the byte, sorry.  I have
this great technology for complete score exchange and I want to use it!

                   CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST  1993
      Call: K5ZD                     Country:  United States
      Mode: CW                       Category: Single Operator

      BAND     QSO   QSO PTS  PTS/QSO   ZONES COUNTRIES
      160      111      308     2.77     13      53
       80      340      975     2.87     21      77
       40      808     2363     2.92     32     111
       20      944     2785     2.95     33     104
       15      780     2302     2.95     29     102
       10       60      152     2.53     18      37
     ---------------------------------------------------
      Totals   3043     8885     2.92    146     484  =>  5,597,550

   
Here is the rate sheet.  Remember, CT does not handle the multipliers
correctly on this report so they do not match what is above.

BREAKDOWN QSO/mults  K5ZD    Single Operator

HOUR      160      80       40       20       15       10    HR TOT  CUM TOT  

   0    .....    .....    47/34    13/10    .....    .....    60/44   60/44 
   1      .        .      40/21    15/11      .        .      55/32  115/76 
   2      .      66/34      .        .        .        .      66/34  181/110
   3    16/15    12/3      5/3     10/6       .        .      43/27  224/137
   4      .        .      87/8       .        .        .      87/8   311/145
   5    51/18      .       8/1       .        .        .      59/19  370/164
   6    12/4     52/11      .        .        .        .      64/15  434/179
   7     7/3     31/3     28/0       .        .        .      66/6   500/185
   8    .....    .....    61/8     .....    .....    .....    61/8   561/193
   9     3/1      9/5     29/3       .        .        .      41/9   602/202
  10     4/4      5/1     13/5      2/2       .        .      24/12  626/214
  11      .        .       3/1     92/27      .        .      95/28  721/242
  12      .        .        .      20/3    124/26      .     144/29  865/271
  13      .        .        .        .     119/6       .     119/6   984/277
  14      .        .        .        .     111/3       .     111/3  1095/280
  15      .        .        .        .      67/1     20/20    87/21 1182/301
  16    .....    .....    .....    59/4     27/20     2/2     88/26 1270/327
  17      .        .        .     103/3       .        .     103/3  1373/330
  18      .        .        .      25/6     21/12    16/6     62/24 1435/354
  19      .        .       2/0     29/8      7/3      5/2     43/13 1478/367
  20      .        .        .      21/3      8/5      4/1     33/9  1511/376
  21      .        .      28/4      7/1      4/1       .      39/6  1550/382
  22      .        .      83/5       .        .        .      83/5  1633/387
  23      .        .      90/4       .        .        .      90/4  1723/391
   0    .....    .....    74/3     .....    .....    .....    74/3  1797/394
   1      .       6/2     40/2       .        .        .      46/4  1843/398
   2      .      29/5       .        .        .        .      29/5  1872/403
   3     6/5      9/2      6/1      1/0       .        .      22/8  1894/411
   4     2/1     30/8       .        .        .        .      32/9  1926/420
   5     1/1     37/0       .        .        .        .      38/1  1964/421
   6     4/0     24/0      1/0       .        .        .      29/0  1993/421
   7     3/2       .      24/5       .        .        .      27/7  2020/428
   8    .....    21/2     37/0     .....    .....    .....    58/2  2078/430
   9     1/1      3/3     14/2       .        .        .      18/6  2096/436
  10     1/0      2/0      5/3      6/0       .        .      14/3  2110/439
  11      .        .       1/0     52/1       .        .      53/1  2163/440
  12      .        .        .     116/5       .        .     116/5  2279/445
  13      .        .        .        .     113/3       .     113/3  2392/448
  14      .        .        .        .      84/6      3/2     87/8  2479/456
  15      .        .        .        .      71/5      2/2     73/7  2552/463
  16    .....    .....    .....    81/4      1/1      3/3     85/8  2637/471
  17      .        .        .     116/0       .        .     116/0  2753/471
  18      .        .        .      80/3       .        .      80/3  2833/474
  19      .        .        .      28/1      7/4      4/0     39/5  2872/479
  20      .        .        .       8/5     11/6       .      19/11 2891/490
  21      .        .       1/0     33/2      5/2      1/1     40/5  2931/495
  22      .        .      26/1     23/2       .        .      49/3  2980/498
  23      .       4/0     55/1      4/1       .        .      63/2  3043/500
DAY1    93/45   175/57   524/97   396/84   488/77    47/31    ..... 1723/391
DAY2    18/10   165/22   284/18   548/24   292/27    13/8       .   1320/109
TOT    111/55   340/79  808/115  944/108  780/104    60/39      .   3043/500

Here is the time/rate for each band.

DAY1  2.2/43   3.0/59   7.6/69   5.2/76   5.0/97   1.0/49    .....  23.8/72 
DAY2  1.4/12   4.5/37   5.6/51   6.7/82   3.9/75   0.5/24      .    22.6/58 
TOT   3.6/31   7.4/46  13.2/61  11.9/80   8.9/88   1.5/40      .    46.4/66 

Is Europe important from W1 or what?!

                              Continent Statistics
               K5ZD       Single Operator     28 Nov 1993  2359z

                 160   80   40   20   15   10  ALL   percent

North America     21   43   51   45   36   22  218     7.2
South America      4   11   16   27   26   29  113     3.7
Europe            82  274  686  756  686    0 2484    81.6
Asia               1    4   34   95    5    0  139     4.6
Africa             2    5   16   14   14    8   59     1.9
Oceania            1    3    5    7   13    1   30     1.0


73,

Randy






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