KR2J at aol.com KR2J at aol.com
Thu Jul 21 18:58:40 EDT 1994

This idea may result in a fun contest to operate, but the geographically
advantaged would still enjoy better propagation over a longer period of time
into the target areas.  The scores might be closer together, but the ranking
would be the same from top to bottom even without band-edge hogging
gographically advantaged types calling CQ.

KR2J at AOL.com

>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner)  Thu Jul 21 22:50:10 1994
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:50:10 GMT
Message-ID: <BqZTPc1w165w at w2up.wells.com>

Did I misread something?
K5GA, the self-proclaimed world's best operator, who operates from the 
world's largest (or close to it) antenna farm, wants to EQUALIZE the
playing field?
I already erased the original message. This can't be right...


Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Usenet/Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >K2TW (FRC)

>From Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com>  Fri Jul 22 08:21:00 1994
From: Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com> (Eugene Walsh)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:21 EST
Message-ID: <33940722072133/0004504465PK1EM at mcimail.com>

It's terrible!
Things are much worse than I thought!
To wit:
There's a guy in Looziana who is REAL loud!  Lets get him!
Some people use more than one radio, which
  takes alot of effort to learn!
A chap in the Northwest had the AUDACITY to
  appear in an advertisement!  A Funny one at that!
There are people who actually PAY other people
  to do things that they themselves may not be good at,
  or have little time for!
West coasters have better openings to Japan!
  They can also work tons of East coasters via F2!
New Englanders have better openings to Europe!
There are actually people who have "70 foot and
  up towers!" who seem to have little compassion,
  during the battle, for those who do not!
There are people who win more than other people,
  for some mysterious reason, flying in the face of the 
  "Fairness in contesting concept"!
I wanted to answer someone and actually was forced to look
  up the E-Mail address on the users list!
I am forced to work everyone who counts for score, not
  just the good ops!
There are people who have very good signals (Who are LOUD!)
  who actually monopolize a frequency by calling CQ for long
  periods of time, sucking in unsuspecting hams the world
  over into contributing to their score at the expense of
  many well meaning but ill equipped folks who deserve a
  chance to have a few DX QSOs, even if their level of
  preparation and station performance is marginal at best.
Any NITWIT can call CQ and answer calls from weak stations
  in QRM and not worry about getting the calls right or
  copying the weak people at a better rate than the next guy.  
  These NITWITS ruin it for those of us who WISH for the 
  QSO's!  These serious BIG GUY contesters, who have actually 
  built competitive stations, and learned the techniques in 
  order to actually compete, are always in the way!
I keep running into people from all over who are louder 
  than me, for one reason or another, into all sorts of 
  places at various times of the day!  Someday I'll make
  them all pay!
   .. OH..(Whimper).. Forgive Me (Sniff).. I can't go on....

>From Scott Earle <scott at rcp.co.uk>  Fri Jul 22 10:57:06 1994
From: Scott Earle <scott at rcp.co.uk> (Scott Earle)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:57:06 GMT
References: <9407211037.tn712881 at aol.com>
Message-ID: <yA9LuAZEBh107h at rcp.co.uk>

In <9407211037.tn712881 at aol.com> BillK5GA at aol.com writes:
>I suggest that we have a contest where US stations CANNOT call cq. Only DX
>stations call cq.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but DX means "Long distance" - and most of the USA
certainly is a long distance from here!

	73, Scott


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>From Michael Owen <MOWE at SLUMUS.STLAWU.EDU>  Fri Jul 22 13:58:44 1994
From: Michael Owen <MOWE at SLUMUS.STLAWU.EDU> (Michael Owen)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 08:58:44 EDT
Message-ID: <22JUL94.09697473.0020.MUSIC at SLUMUS>

I think that it's a real hoot to note the .sigs of the "quit whining,"
"stop complaining," etc. messages whenever the topic of equalization
dares to be raised again.  All W1/W2.  What a coincidence.

Who was the author of the '60s Civil Rights analogy a few months back?
(W0UN?)  I still love it: "Hey, things are just fine up here in the
front of the bus."


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>From Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com>  Fri Jul 22 14:01:17 1994
From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com> (Tony Brock-Fisher)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:01:17 -0400
Subject: CQ Less, Score More
Message-ID: <9407221301.AA24281 at hp-and.an.hp.com>

One way to reduce the amount of CQing in a manner that does not
totally change the rules is to include the Run/Mult aspect of the
QSO in the score. Stations calling CQ get one point per QSO; stations
answering the CQ get 2 or 3 points per QSO. This would automatically
reduce CQing, although not completely. Computer logging can deal with
the scoring, and also help to tell the operator if he/she should be
Running or S&Ping.  Computer checking could also verify point
credit taken. What Say?

-Tony, K1KP, fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com

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