What is wrong with Voice Keyer

[george fremin iii]

: What gets me is when you hear the CQ, answer, and a different voice
: answers you back.  Always confuses me for a moment until I realize
: they were using a voice keyer with someone elses voice than the current
: operator.
: 
: Note to voice keyer operators -- change the CQ so it sounds like you
: when your using it! <g>

yeah this annoys me too.  In fact it reminds me of a something
that happened during the WPX ssb contest this spring.
 
I was tuning up 15m about 30 mins into the contest when I
came across ky1h calling CQ.  Here is what happened. 
 
stn1 - CQ CONTEST KY1H over.
 
me - WB5VZL
 
stn1 - WB5VZL you're 59 67.
 
me - you're 59 50 - thanks.

And just as I was tuning off I hear. 

 
stn1 - thanks - QRZ WZ1R over. 

so I tune back on frequency - just as he starts again. 
 
stn1 - CQ CONTEST KY1H over. 
 
so I call him and ask him if he would like me to log KY1H or WZ1R. 
he says he is WA1R - I tell him he should listen to his cq message. 
 
remeber - this all occured 30+ minutes into the contest. 
mmmmm. wonder how many people worked KY1H on 15m in that 30 mins.
 
does anyone remeber the post that N6TR did on voice keyers? 
it was called "BEWARE THE DVP".  I think that it brought up
some really good points about why a voice keyer is not like
a cw keyer and why it is important to be "live". 
 
I thought it was so good I saved it - maybe I should repost it.
 
:-) 
 
George "I rarely use a voice keyer" Fremin
Austin, Texas C.K.U.                        
WB5VZL
512/416-0140
geoiii at bga.com

>From Ed Gilbert <eyg at hpnjlc.njd.hp.com>  Sun Jul 24 18:03:10 1994
From: Ed Gilbert <eyg at hpnjlc.njd.hp.com> (Ed Gilbert)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 13:03:10 -0400
Subject: Internet sprint
Message-ID: <9407241706.AA06762 at hp.com>

132 Qs.  I'm just starting to get the hang of this sprint format.

Good conditions on 20 the whole contest, including some excellent
short skip into NH and Ohio.  As always, the 5's were real fat
into NJ.  Dave k5gn worked me 9 times.

No Qs on 40.  I checked it a few times but no activity.  

At about 0245z I was startled by a very loud thunder clap from a
nearby lightning strike.  I turned everything off, grounded the
antennas, and stepped outside to check out the storm.  After a
couple of minutes of contemplating the frequency of strikes, the
height of my 50' tower, and the thickness of my rubber earphone
pads, I said "what the hell" and turned things back on for the
last few minutes.

73, 
Ed Gilbert, wa2srq


>From Steve Merchant <merchant at crl.com>  Sun Jul 24 18:38:36 1994
From: Steve Merchant <merchant at crl.com> (Steve Merchant)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 10:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SprINT
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9407241036.A4618-0100000 at crl.crl.com>

20 was very strong here in 6-land and 40 was a waste of time.  The Texas 
gang was _VERY_ loud.  Lots of unanswered CQs.  Most fun was working DL1IAO six 
times, (and OH7MA once).  Least fun was getting stomped on by N6TV all 
the time (heh).  I figured Jeff(Kroy) had gone somewhere or had been 
dodging a thunderstorm, and he confirmed it by giving me nr 86 with 10 mins 
left in the contest.  108 Q's, much fun.  BTW, who was OODLE?

73, Steve  N4TQO (from AG6D)
merchant at crl.com


>From Morao Esteban <z801183a at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>  Sun Jul 24 20:38:23 1994
From: Morao Esteban <z801183a at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> (Morao Esteban)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 15:38:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: What is wrong with Voice Keyer
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9407241518.B14842-0100000 at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>

Hello!
Its me again,

I still saying, I dont see no problem using a Voice keyer, only if you 
know that the message that is using is ok.

I think is a help for the ssb operators as like cw keyer for us the CW 
addicted.

any comments?

Steve W4/YV5DTA
z801183a at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



>From clay torsten <rtclay at uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>  Sun Jul 24 21:31:09 1994
From: clay torsten <rtclay at uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> (clay torsten)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 15:31:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: SprINT, N4OGW
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9407241503.A11828-0100000 at uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>

Participation was up, conditions sucked. 20 really changed during the 
contest...at the start I couldn't copy the NJ guys, but they were 599 
during the second hour. No propagation at all to TX...loudest here in IL 
most of the time was K6XO. 119 Q's, started with "Dilbert".

R. Torsten Clay, N4OGW/9   n4ogw at uiuc.edu  

>From Scott M. Cronin" <lefty at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us  Mon Jul 25 00:01:47 1994
From: Scott M. Cronin" <lefty at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Scott M. Cronin)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 19:01:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: de K1ZX. Contest within a contest
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9407241912.A9458-0100000 at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>

 jim didnt know you wereon internet. talk to you later scott ws4e



Scott M. Cronin
lefty at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us