Ditzian at Ditzian at
Mon Jul 25 19:58:46 EDT 1994

Please help me to get my name off the contest  reflector.  I sent an
unsubscribe to cq-contest-request, but I am still on.  How do I get off this
list?  Any help from anyone would be appreciated.

>From raid5!davep at (Dave Palmer)  Tue Jul 26 00:07:45 1994
From: raid5!davep at (Dave Palmer) (Dave Palmer)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 17:07:45 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Sprint, Internet style
Message-ID: <9407252307.AA09756 at raid5>

Well Saturday's Internet Sprint was a blast!  (And from 
here in Colorado, almost a JOLT--I had to hold off putting up
the HF6V until 30 mins. into the contest to wait for lightning
to subside).

But at 52 QSOs, my score was WAY up from my last time when I finished LAST!
(How's that for a claim to fame?).

The contest was the motivation I needed to finish wiring my 
keying switch box/opto isolator so that the laptop can key 
either radio 1 (TenTec 544) or radio 2 (the new addition Icom 735).
It was fun to attempt a 2 radio contest but there wasn't much  
activity on 40 to give the technique a good work out.
(Just as well, if more of my 40m CQs had gotten responses, I'd have had
even more cases of "brain freeze" than I did).

Had 40 been the main band, I was expecting to use the HF6V on 40 and the
attic IsoLoop on 20; as it turned out the HF6V (ground mounted, 16 radials)
was on 20 and I used a low dipole for 40m. 

Thanks to K1ZX for telling me about the chirp on my signal.  A mid-contest
battery swap probably fixed that.  I'm going to have to buy bigger batteries 
or a real (but RF quiet) power supply.  

Bill, KM9P writes:
>  Change the CQ format to 599 GRID and we'll see who can copy the code and
>  who can't!
An even better code test is the "name" field in this contest!  whew!

Thanks to everyone for the fun!   See you next time.

Dave Palmer, N6KL
davep at

>From Bill H Parry <bill at>  Tue Jul 26 00:50:17 1994
From: Bill H Parry <bill at> (Bill H Parry)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:50:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Rules
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9407251854.C28139-0100000 at>

I believe that we have reached a point where some enterprising individual 
needs to conduct a scientific survey regarding the rules in our contests. 
I am very interested in the idea that we, individually, can decide which 
of the rules we wish to follow. Possibly, the ARRL and CQ can list two 
types of rules, those that cannot be broken and those that are optional! 
Folks, these contests are supposed to be fun. If you can't enjoy 
yourself, this hobby isn't much of a diversion for you. 

				Bill, W5VX
				bill at


>From oo7 at (Derek Wills)  Mon Jul 25 20:33:34 1994
From: oo7 at (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:33:34 GMT
Subject: Rules
Message-ID: <9407260033.AA16036 at>

	>Folks, these contests are supposed to be fun. If you can't enjoy 
	>yourself, this hobby isn't much of a diversion for you.  Bill, W5VX

As a casual contester, I agree entirely.  I was really trying to
sympathize with the people who do these things seriously - meaning
that they spend time, money and effort going halfway round the world, 
or even putting together a (legally) powerful domestic station.

And without some serious contesters, there might not be any contests
at all.  Personally I use them mainly for new band/countries/zones, 
enjoy the increased activity on the air, and can be happy making fewer 
than 100 Qs in CQWW weekend if they are 'quality vs quantity' ones.

But the people who win these things don't really regard them as fun,
do they?   It can't be...

Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at

>From eric%modular.UUCP at (Eric Gustafson)  Tue Jul 26 01:33:24 1994
From: eric%modular.UUCP at (Eric Gustafson) (Eric Gustafson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:33:24 MST
Subject: Attitude Impaired
Message-ID: <9407260033.AA26553 at modular>

  Derek AA5BT, G3NMX Sez:

 >So what you guys are saying is that it's quite OK for someone to run 10 KW 
 >or more in a contest and beat you, and presumably it's OK for someone to 
 >beat you by manufacturing a QSO for every couple of real ones?  Or tape
 >the contest and figure out the exchanges when they are more awake?  Or use
 >packet spots in the unassisted class?  This is all OK?

 .... stuff deleted ...

 >And now we're told that doing all this stuff is The American Way, ignoring
 >the petty rules?  I'm really amazed.   I guess you think it's OK for other
 >people to drive drunk and/or drive at 90 mph as long as you're not actually 
 >doing it yourself at the time? 

No I'm not (and never did) say that it is "OK" to operate in violation of
the rules du jour.  I merely said that I don't take it upon myself to worry
all that much about it when it happens.  I choose to operate morally
(legally if you wish) some others may not.  Those who don't are aware of
the quality of their "victories".  I am aware of the quality of my efforts.

If it affected my family's well being or my livelihood, I might become a
bit more activist.  But even then I would have to evaluate the probability
that whining about it would have any positive effect before becoming a
whiner.  In such a case I would probably seek more direct means of redress.

However, its real hard for me to get upset about something someone
thousands of miles from here is doing mostly on the phone bands, almost
exclusively in contests, the "evidence" for which (so far) consists of "gee
that guy sure is loud here".

73,  Eric  N7CL

>From oo7 at (Derek Wills)  Mon Jul 25 22:36:23 1994
From: oo7 at (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 21:36:23 GMT
Subject: SprINT de AA5BT
Message-ID: <9407260236.AA19070 at>

Thanks to all for the Qs and the fun.  126 Qs, same as I have done the
last 2-3 times, I guess that's all I'm capable of.  Used my real name,
which became Derk before the first quarter-hour was over.  Derrick was
changed to Derlick after 25 mins.   Got my first Larry as #8 from K7SV,
then got it 7 times in 10 successive QSOs.  Never heard K7SV again and 
his name is indeed Larry, so this was probably the situation foreseen 
by Tree in his pre-contest write-up (except that he guessed it would be 
a Dave).

One dupe - N7LOX and I worked each other with only 2 intervening QSOs
for both of us...  It sure is nice to have a contest where old-fashioned
types can use a paper and pencil with no computer crashes to worry
about (the pencil lead didn't even break).

Stayed on 20 the whole time, averaged 1 Q per minute the whole time.
Loud people here were WD8AUB, WA2SRQ and most of the 6s, including
that one in OR.   Most frequent workee was K2MM (8 QSOs).  Had three
Qs with someone who shows as a 13.5 yr-old Novice in the on-line call
book - encouraging, if true.  K5GN/KR0Y/N5RZ all understandably weak

Got the usual weird names, including "iii" or "III", am assured this
was not Geo III WB5VZL, presumably it came from someone correcting
a name with a string of dit-dits and having it taken at face value
(hmm, might have been me, I corrected a couple that way, ack).

Weird feeling working someone for the first time when they are at
QSO #100 or so - can you really be within a few KHz of them for an
hour or more and never run across them?  

Nice contest, and the only one in which I'll ever have a hope of
reaching the Top Ten Box....

Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at

>From barry at (Barry Kutner)  Tue Jul 26 01:52:52 1994
From: barry at (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 00:52:52 GMT
Subject: TIC ring delay
Message-ID: <Tum2Pc1w165w at>

I ordered a 1022 TIC ring rotor in May with delivery promised by July 15. 
I spoke with Todd today to check on the status and now he says early 
September! Wonder if others waiting are getting same story?
73 Barry


Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Usenet/Internet: barry at
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >K2TW (FRC)

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