Fingerless in Seal Rock?
John D. Nicholson
jnichols at ednet1.osl.or.gov
Thu Aug 3 11:06:49 EDT 1995
>Are you serious about "3 fingers" ?
NO!!!! Tongue in cheek, Steve!!!
>Does "downs" include falling down ?
Seriously I DO check the cable and clamps every time
I am around the tower. I HAVE NOT had any problems
but definitely an ounce of prevention is worth a
a pound of cure...
My apologies if I took the the subject too lightly! It
is definitely a serious matter...
K7 Fingers? Definitely!
>From Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com> Thu Aug 3 18:19:37 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:19:37 -0700
Subject: 3 fingers
Message-ID: <199508031719.KAA02206 at cascade.cmicro.com>
> >Are you serious about "3 fingers" ?
Roger Mace, W6RW, could of answered yes to this question. He had severe
damage done to his hand in a crank up tower accident.
>From James Brooks" <9v1yc at equator.lugs.po.my Thu Aug 3 19:12:11 1995
From: James Brooks" <9v1yc at equator.lugs.po.my (James Brooks)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 18:12:11 +0000
Subject: AP Sprint Final Results
Message-ID: <3021036e.equator at equator.lugs.po.my>
Final Results of the 1st Asia-Pacific Sprint.
N. America: AI7B
S. America: none
Hong Kong: VS6BG
VS6BG 62 x 45 2790
JH4UYB 57 x 42 2394
JH4NMT 49 x 31 1519
JE1JKL 48 x 31 1488
9V1YC 41 x 26 1066
JL1ZAZ 40 x 24 960
JM1NKT 34 x 27 918
JH0KHR 38 x 21 798
JH4RHF 31 x 25 775
JE1CKA 34 x 19 646
JF1SQC 25 x 21 525
JL1CLE/1 27 x 19 513
9V1ZV 17 x 13 221
VK5GN 23 x 17 391
AI7B 30 x 14 420
N6ZZ 18 x 14 252
K7LR 20 x 12 240
N4TQO 17 x 7 119
N2AA 12 x 9 108
KE9A 10 x 10 100
K5ZD 11 x 9 99
K7SV 10 x 7 70
AA5UO 5 x 5 25
CT1BOH 2 x 2 4
"Enjoyed the first sprint of my life!"
"Hi, guys. See you in the next SPRINT contest"
"I've been looking for such a contest for a long time. If the rule
advirtise in Europe, this will be more enjoyable. If the target is
mainly USA, the time maybe between 12 and 14z. (Translated from Japanese)"
"My first experience of sprint. QSY rule is still strange for me, but
interesting one. Propagation to States was good, but JA sigs were quite weak.
They came up to S9 just 20min before end. Not having 40m antenna is my
disadvantage. Anyway, interesting contest. Hope more QSO and participants next
"It was almost one hour left,when I started operation after remembering
the contest being hold! There was my first trial and sprint contesting itself.
It was a great fun!"
"Great sport! Problem is that the band is not open very well from here.
I am sure you don't need a T-shirt size from the east coast.
Band wasn't too bad for the first15 minutes or so; and about done by 1310Z,
but did manage a Q with JL1ZAZ at 1346. QSX until about 1405 or so, after
which couldn't hear anyone else. I will be at the next one for sure."
"Having some difficulty calculating final score (must be the size!). Thanks
again for a fun time. Great fun, looking forward to next one"
"The ultimate S&P contest. Sprint QSY rule confused some. Especially those
on local packet who were trying to work VS6BG when he wouldn't stay on one
"Fell asleep in my operating chair last 21 minutes so mite have done a bit
"Need to get into it a little earlier next time. As Gene said, I had
about half hour of opening on 20, but I'm sure there was prop prior to
when I got on around 1400Z. Goals for the next one are to break a hundred
points! I'm surprised I didn't hear 9V1YC!"
"I think it went pretty well for the first running. It will be interesting to
see hom many people participated. The band closed down about the last 20 minutes
of the contest otherwise condx were pretty good. Biggest thrill was VS6BG
answering my 150 watt CQ. Other than that, I had no luck with CQing. The Alpha
would have come in handy! If it looks like you want to run this again, we should
pick a date for this fall and begin to publish it soon. That way we might even get
it in some of the magazines. Good show and sorry I missed that 9V mult!"
"Interesting how the NA crowd called "CQ AP" while most of the Asians called
"CQ TEST". Experience from the NA sprint I guess...."
"Good amount of activity for the first running!"
For a 1st run, this 2-hour contest turned out a decent crowd!
- more than we expected for just an E-mail advertisement. Big surprises
were all the Stateside stations that checked in - but I sure wish more of
them had sent a log! Most of us logged a fair mix between USA and Asian
calls, with a few South and Central Americans checking in here and there
for some nice surprise multipliers.
But despite the timing, Europe was not that hot, though if propagation
had been better in that direction we would have all easily doubled
our scores. We need to get Europe to advertise for us too.
Thanks to those who participated and took the trouble to submit a log.
Judging from the soapbox comments, this AP Sprint makes perfect training
ground for upcoming Asian contesters. Hopefully we'll get more of
them on for CQWW next Fall after they get comfortable with this
The next one is on Saturday, Sept 30 (not Sunday!) and we're aiming to get
an even bigger crowd (especially from Taiwan). This is also a good time for
you USA/ VE guys to do a final check on your contest season antennas
(if they're ready). Once again, thats Saturday, Sept 30.
At the end of it all, it can safely be said that the idea of an Asia
Pacific centered sprint works, and this was a success. And since most
of these entries were submitted by E-mail, as was our advertising,
this could easily become an "AP SprINT" in that cool N6TR/K2MM style.
The 30 Sept rules are posted in a separate mail. Spread the word
and join in the fun.
73's from the APCC and thanks again to all. See you in the next one!
- James 9V1YC
| 9v1yc at equator.lugs.po.my |
>From sfraasch at ATK.COM (Steve Fraasch) Thu Aug 3 21:59:09 1995
From: sfraasch at ATK.COM (Steve Fraasch) (Steve Fraasch)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 13:59:09 -0700
Subject: Need bloody pix
Message-ID: <1995Aug03.135755.1180.19686 at msm.atk.com>
Dave, K6LL, mentioned the following to me:
"There was a time when Rohn manufactured crankup towers. In their
catalog from that era (70's?), they had a horrific full page
caricature of a person with fingers cut off and bright red blood
dripping out. The message, in huge letters, was "BE CAREFUL WITH
Without mentioning names, I received a few replies confirming the above
I called Rohn. They will send no picture, nor make an official statement
regarding crank-up tower safety. If anyone can spare sending this
picture, I would appreciate it. I am pursuing no legal action, other than
to agree on conditions for a CUP. I'll leave you anonymous, if you'd like.
Recall, I am trying to further justify the fixed, guyed tower, rather than
I must say that this picture is in reference to their discontinued line of
crank-ups, not their fold-over towers. In all honesty, I have never heard
of any accidents with their fold-over towers.
In my opinion, the pix is a matter of public record, since it was widely
disseminated in a manufacturer's catalog.
Steve Fraasch, K0SF
>From David & Barbara Leeson <0005543629 at mcimail.com> Thu Aug 3 19:46:00 1995
From: David & Barbara Leeson <0005543629 at mcimail.com> (David & Barbara Leeson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 95 13:46 EST
Subject: More Tribanders
Message-ID: <55950803184655/0005543629NA5EM at MCIMAIL.COM>
Not to beat a subject to death, but a friend asked me to clarify what I
meant about a short stack being compromised to the point where a single
tribander would be a better choice. I was referring to, say, a 10 over
15 over 20 on a 12' mast or the like. In most short stack situations, the
compromise of the higher band antennas from the lower band directors acting
as higher band reflectors is substantial. The perfect tribander would have
all this comprimise contained within a single antenna that was designed to
work "with itself". My comments don't apply to stacked monobanders without
other antennas close enough to change the patterns.
Another interesting issue (at least to me) is the use of relatively long
but low-loss transmission lines to "wrap" the antenna impedance to get a
broadband match. This works very well, especially since you need a feedline
anyway. It does not require feedline loss to work. For reference, see
Frank Witt, AI1H, ARRL Ant. Comp. Vol 4, pg 30 or Rizzi, Microwave Eng.,
pg. 130. This technique can be used with an ordinary dipole to get a
double-humped SWR curve over a substantial bandwidth, but there isn't
any cook-book or computer program solution published (yet).
"If you have two antennas, one is always better, but you can't tell ahead
of time which one it will be"
73 de Dave, W6QHS
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