Best rx antenna

bill.lumnitzer at bill.lumnitzer at
Sat Aug 5 20:15:10 EDT 1995

 Fi> Hi. As a part-time station designer, I have been asked to recommend
 Fi> a low-band receiving antenna for a location that has unusually good
 Fi> ground; i.e. a salt marsh.
 Fi> -Tony, K1KP, fisher at

 Bi> Tony, you've got it wrong! 
 Bi> Over saltwater, however, a Beverage is no good since
 Bi> the low angle performance is very poor. 

 Bi> 73 Bill
 Bi> N6CQ at

Now that I took the time to really read your original posting, I realize
that you WERE speaking about salt water. Sorry for telling you a bunch of
stuff you already know!

73 Bill
N6CQ at


>From Joe Subich" <subich at  Sat Aug  5 14:46:29 1995
From: Joe Subich" <subich at (Joe Subich)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 95 19:46:29 +0600
Subject: Windows 95
Message-ID: <9508052353.AA0068 at>

>Have any of those who have had the opportunity to use the beta copy of 
>Windows 95 tried it's compatibility with the various contest programs? I 
>understand that there is no real DOS prompt in Windows 95 and that it may 
>not like programs like CT. It would be good to know before installing 
>Windows 95 on your computer!

Since Windows 95 is nothing more than Windows 4.0 over MSDOC 7.0, you can 
easily avoid booting the graphical portion (Windows) and revert to a DOS 
command line.  The keys are in CONFIG.SYS and MSDOS.SYS (MSDOS.SYS is now 
a text INI file ... you add GUI=NO or some similar command [my notes are 
not at home] and the Windows GUI will not start). 

Since most of the programs like CT are very timing dependent, particularly 
if you are using them to send CW, you don't want to be messing them up with 
Windows' unreliable "multi-tasking."  Run them from DOS 7 ... 

    ... Joe Subich, AD8I
        (subich at

>From Will Sill <will at>  Sun Aug  6 01:47:40 1995
From: Will Sill <will at> (Will Sill)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 20:47:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Choices
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950805202044.4478C-100000 at>

On Wed, 2 Aug 1995 force12 at wrote a VERY long comment defending 
his product and growling about criticism. I see the author has since 
apologized for "advertising" here, and only wish to comment about some 
of the "facts" that could be checked and measured:

		<deleting much verbiage>

With all due respect to the writer, I do realize that "Kurt Sterba" is a 
caustic fellow indeed, and that he is a sort of Johnny-one-note on 
antenna matters, groaning regularly about exaggeration and unproven 
claims.  But in this case, I fail to see any tangible EVIDENCE (in the 
subject post) that the Force12 product is superior to, say, an aluminum 
ladder, or that Sterba stuck it to you unfairly. Notice I don't say the 
C3 is no good - I'm saying no hard data was presented.

I join Sterba is being completely unimpressed with testimonials. The fact
that I had a nice 30 minute QSO with a VE7 on 17m with 100w and a G5RV
(true) does not make the G5RV a killer antenna. 

I also have a dim view of measurements that fail to take into account 
real world conditions - dbi is a cute concept but try measuring THAT in 
your home town.

You want to impress me?  Show me field strength meter data from A/B/C
comparisons.  In other words, show me hard, independently-verified
evidence that your antenna focuses RF better than mine. Never mind the
computer simulation stuff. I was into computer simulation in the fifties -
and I know a computer can be programmed to tell you what you wanna hear.
(No offense intended to legitimate stuff that's helpful!)

When you have the data, I listen real good. When you just wanna tell me
what a good guy you are, and how long you been a ham (some of the old
ducks can't hardly find their way to the bathroom - age don't impress me,
as I am old by some standards myself!), or how many contests you've won,
don't bother. Contests are not won by antennas, or transceivers, or
amplifiers, or good marketing. They are won by people, taking advantage of
available equipment AND circumstances AND a little bit 'o luck! 

Maybe you've got a legitimate beef, and maybe you haven't - but IMO you 
brought it to the wrong forum.

will at - KD3XR - W F Sill, Tunkhannock, PA

>From k8mr at (Jim Stahl)  Sun Aug  6 04:31:04 1995
From: k8mr at (Jim Stahl) (Jim Stahl)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 95 23:31:04 EDT
Subject: NAQP Score
Message-ID: <Hm8D0c1w165w at>

                          NCJ NORTH AMERICAN QSO PARTY
     Call used: K8MR                                           Location: 
     Category: Multi-Single Xmtr          Mode: CW              Power: 
     Callsign of Operator: K8MR  
     If multi-operator, show calls of all operators and loggers:
 (In order of appearance:) KU8E NZ4K WD8LLD WD8AUB K8MR W8FN N8JEC K8CC
     Exchanged Information: K8MR ERIN OH  
     Hours of Operation: 03:49
     band      QSOs     points    mults
     160          7         7        6
      80         46        46       25
      40         13        13        9
      20         81        81       29
      15         54        54       17
      10         12        12        5
     TOTAL      213       213       91      SCORE: 19,383
     Club or Team Name: Mad River Radio Club        
     Comments: This started at the annual KN8Z Barbeque & Mad River RC
     Picnic.  This included all the 40 - 10 meter qsos.  The 80 and 160 
     QSOs were done by the real K8MR from the real K8MR QTH 150 miles 
     Now QRT to get up in the a.m. to head for a cruise in C6A, where the
     namesake made it's claim to fame last week.
     I, by virtue of my statement below, have taken part in the 
           NCJ NORTH AMERICAN QSO PARTY on 08/05/1995
     conscientiously applying my most ethical interpretation of the
     published rules for this contest.
     Date_________ Signature_____________________________ 
     Name: Jim Stahl                       Call: K8MR  
           30499 Jackson Road            
           Chagrin Falls, OH 44022

Jim Stahl
InterNet: k8mr at
Basic Amateur Radio Frequency, BARF-80 +1 216/237-8208
"Totally devoted to Amateur Radio" - 24 Hrs a day 8/N/1 14.4k-300 baud

>From Steve Merchant <merchant at>  Sun Aug  6 07:22:01 1995
From: Steve Merchant <merchant at> (Steve Merchant)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 23:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: N4TQO NAQP Score
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950805231832.1723B-100000 at>

This was a very part time effort for me -- around 6 hours -- lots of 
playing, not much serious operating.  294 x 124 = 36,456.  Nice to see 
some new (old) faces, and the usual crowd as well.  Hope everyone had 
fun.  See you all in SSB section.

Where was W9NQ?  He must be too close to me now that I've moved.

73, Steve  N4TQO
merchant at

>From XTFF35A at (MR CHARLES A CULLIAN)  Sun Aug  6 07:37:32 1995
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 02:37:32 EDT
Message-ID: <013.09530442.XTFF35A at>

QRN was awful, but here's the score:
Band         QSOs         Mults
160           14              8
80             36              22
40            138             42
20            257             48
15            130             38
10            143             38

Totals      718            196

Score    140,728

Had a great time, wish my low band score was up to par.


Chuck K0RF

>From ke7gh at (Brian Short)  Sun Aug  6 08:11:27 1995
From: ke7gh at (Brian Short) (Brian Short)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 07:11:27 +0000
Subject: 1st NAQP Score
Message-ID: <199508060711.AAA00920 at>

My first time (ever) using the N6TR program and I must say that I did
enjoy it very much.  Maybe next time I'll be more practiced with the
software, but the learning curve was not bad.  Also my first time in
NAQP.  Eqpt: FT-990, KT-34, 40M2A (2 el 40), 80m folded dipole.

                              NA QSO SUMMARY SHEET

    Contest Dates : 05-Aug-95, 06-Aug-95

    Callsign Used : KE7GH
         Operator : KE7GH

         Category : SOP

 Default Exchange : Brian AZ

             Name : Brian K. Short
          Address : 1994 E Laguna Dr
   City/State/Zip : Tempe, AZ 85282
          Country : United States

        Team/Club : Central Arizona DX Association

   BAND   Raw QSOs   Valid QSOs   Points   Mults   

   80CW       21          21         21      10 
   40CW      128         128        128      41 
   20CW      271         271        270      48 
   15CW       80          80         80      31 

 Totals      500         500        499     130 

    Final Score = 64870 points.

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