Results WAE PA3ERC

Rob Snieder PA3ERC norf at euronet.nl
Mon Aug 14 14:03:00 EDT 1995


                 DARC WORKED ALL EUROPE CONTEST -- 1995


      Call: PA3ERC                   Country:  Netherlands
      Mode: CW                       Category: Single Operator

     BAND     QSO   QTC    Cty   Mult


      160        0      0       0       0
       80       11      0       3     12
       40     100   138     24     72
       20     193   186     28     56
       15         4    10       2       4
       10         0      0       0       0
      ================================================
    Totals   308   334      57    144 = 92,448

Equipment Description:
Transceiver    : Kenwood TS-950SD
Amplifier        : Kenwood TL-922 (400 watts)
Antenna's      : 10/15/20 FB53 5 el. tri-bander
                      40 KLM Rotary dipole
                      80 Wire dipole
Logging          : CT-9.23
Operating time: 12 hours

Club Affiliation: Contestgroup Oude Maas

Remarks: I realy enjoyed the contest, this year I didn't lost any QTC's
               in CT. CT worked beautiful without problems. I hope next year
               more US stations will participate in the WAE, it's a great
               contest. I noticed that many stations didn't give a way any
               QTC's, they always said "NIL" while I was sure they had plenty
               to give, for those stations: don't be a shame, just say I don't
               give a way QTC's that saves EU stations asking for them again
               and again without any result. I'm looking forward to run the
               WAE phone from the "other side" from VP5.

73 de Rob

Rob Snieder PA3ERC 

member of Contestgroup Oude Maas PI4COM/PA6WPX

Internet e-mail : norf at euronet.nl
Packet Radio    : PA3ERC at PI8MBQ
PacketCluster   : PA3ERC > PI8DXC


>From Richard L. King" <0007131253 at mcimail.com  Mon Aug 14 18:06:00 1995
From: Richard L. King" <0007131253 at mcimail.com (Richard L. King)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:06 EST
Subject: Return of the Octopus
Message-ID: <31950814170613/0007131253PJ2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Jim is getting old and his memory is suffering like the rest of us. His
information was close but not exact. It was not WA5LES/K5PFL (K5RC/K5NA)
that had the octopus system for SS. It was WA5LES and K5LZO. The set-up
was explained to me by K5RC who claimed the anti-octopus rule that was
adapted afterwards should have been named after them.

Their set up had two operating positions on two desks that faced each 
other. They had two electro-mechanical counters that they could see 
that always had the next SS number to send on it. When one of them made
a QSO, he would slap a button that would update the counter by one at 
both places. Their rigs were interlocked so that only one of them 
could transmit at a time. But the end result was that one of them was
always transmitting.

An added interesting fact was that at the side of the two operating 
positions was a large dup sheet hung on the wall that was about 3 feet
high and 6 feet long. Their two wives at the time had the responsibility
to write the calls on the dup sheet using large marking pens so that
both operators could see the oversized dup sheet from his operating 
position. The wives were always listed as being additional operators 
in QST. Of course, now that we all have computers for duping, wives 
are no longer necessary. (Let's see if that starts a thread?)

I don't think the octopus rule still exists anywhere? I wonder if I 
should consider incorporating it in my new station I will be building 
in the Austin area. Yes, for those of you who haven't heard, the K5NA
station in NY will be dismantling in the next few months. It has been 
a good run here and I have really enjoyed it. I just hope I'm not 
getting too old to do it all over again at a new site. We'll see.

73, Richard
K5NA at MCIMAIL.COM


>From ke7gh at primenet.com (Brian Short)  Mon Aug 14 18:32:26 1995
From: ke7gh at primenet.com (Brian Short) (Brian Short)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:32:26 +0000
Subject: M/S 2 Radio CW Lockout?
Message-ID: <199508141732.KAA27319 at mailhost.primenet.com>

In my previous post, I did not make all assumptions clear.

I am considering the 2-radio, 2-computer, 2-operator CW case where only
one transmitter should be on the air at a time (e.g. M/S).  It is easy to
presume I was thinking of SOP.

A couple people pointed out that the N6TRLog program will solve the problem
completely for the 2-radio, 1-computer, 1-operator case.  This I know and I
do enjoy the N6TR program.  It is a complete solution for the SOP case as far
as I know.

I suspect the PTT signal on the LPT port could be used to build a simple
lockout for the case I am considering.  Especially with the variable delay
that can be configured for the PTT signal.  That would eliminate the chopped
up mess on radio #2 that I referred to.

If anyone has any experience with this, I would appreciate it.  Any comments?

Thanks for the bandwidth.

73 de Brian


>From gjk at hogpa.ho.att.com (Gerald J Kersus)  Mon Aug 14 17:52:37 1995
From: gjk at hogpa.ho.att.com (Gerald J Kersus) (Gerald J Kersus)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:52:37 EDT
Subject: EVE vs Beverage?
Message-ID: <9508141652.AA24121 at hogpc.ho.att.com>

This past Spring, before I took down my 540-ft NE Beverage, I quickly put
up a EWE per the QST article.  They wre parallel and about 150 feet apart,
so there may have been some interactions.  On 80M, the Beverage was
significantly better under noisy conditions.  HOWEVER, the EWE was still
much better than an inverted-vee:  signals I could barely hear on the
inverted-vee were Q-5 on the EWE.  I don't believe there was any station I
could hear on the Beverage that I could not copy on  the EWE.  I was very
impressed by the EWE.  Results on 160 M wre similar, but less
dramatic.  I'll probably trek through the woods and put up the NE
Beverage again this October.  I plan on putting up two EWEs for other
directions (S & W) since I don't have the real estate to put up Beverages
that are more than 200 feet long in these directions.


Gerry, W1GD
gjk at hogpa.att.com

>From KE2PF <0002017515 at mcimail.com>  Mon Aug 14 20:10:00 1995
From: KE2PF <0002017515 at mcimail.com> (KE2PF)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:10 EST
Subject: KE2PF WAE S/O SCORE
Message-ID: <00950814191000/0002017515PL1EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

WORKED ALL EUROPE CONTEST
KE2PF SINGLE OP, 35 HOURS OF OPERATION

BAND         QSO       QTC     CTY      MULT    ANTENNA
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
80          194       194      30       120    PHASED VERTICALS
40          452       446      39       117    3EL AT 90FT
20          758       752      45       90     4EL OVER 4EL
                                           AT 50 AND 100FT
15          12        12       9        18    5EL AT 75FT
----------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 1416         1404     123      345 = 968,760 POINTS

Good conditions the first day, not good the second day. It was
very frustrating to hear N3RD, KC1XX, and others running guys
on 15 that I couldn't even hear, so I decided to try to move
multipliers as much as possible on 40/80 where they are worth 
more. The rule allowing packet helped keep me interrested the
second day when things got slow; it allowed me to chat with 
AB2E when things got real slow.
   I noticed the loud "rushing noise" often complained about
on 40M Saturday night and 20 meters both afternoons. The 
sound was exactly the same on both bands. Instead of it being
broadcast hash could it possibly be another version of the
"Russian Woodpecker" over-the-horizon-radar? I remember 
years back when the "Russian Woodpecker" was on that it shifted
frequencies around, similar to this new hash I hear. 
Club Affiliation: Frankford Radio Club
73, Dave KE2PF
KE2PF at MCIMAIL.COM


>From KE2PF <0002017515 at mcimail.com>  Mon Aug 14 21:07:00 1995
From: KE2PF <0002017515 at mcimail.com> (KE2PF)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:07 EST
Subject: WAE and QTCs
Message-ID: <82950814200728/0002017515PL4EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Ive seen a couple messages asking why non-european stations always
say "no" or "later" when asked for QTC's. I made 1400 QSO's and
sent 144 QTC groups. I always try to send a full group of 10 QTCs
so the station would't have to come back for more (I had a few
who wanted more even after 10 were sent!). There were far more
than 144 stations asking for QTC's, so I had to say "nil" to them,
I just didn't have any more to send.
   I also try to not send them during good run times. Lets say I 
have a 120 QSO/HR rate going. It takes about 2 minutes to send
a full group. If I send 10 groups, that is 40 QSO's I just lost
(2 QSO's per minute). It adds up!  During slow times I always
sent QTC's when asked, If I had them. Only a couple times I
wouldn't. Periodically I would notice a packet message 
"XXX mult answering CQ's on 20M". If I needed that multiplier
I would keep CQing. I'm afraid if the multiplier hears someone
sending QTC's, he may not wait and move on.
   I know several stateside stations who try to save QTC's for 
the second day which usually has slower rates, however I never
saved them. Im too afraid conditions might bomb and Id be
stuck with a couple hundred I couldn't send :-)
73, and see you in next years WAE CW,
Dave KE2PF
KE2PF at MCIMAIL.COM
Congrats to KC1XX and VP2MDE on their BIG numbers!!


>From biss at epg.nist.gov (Robert Biss)  Mon Aug 14 16:12:23 1995
From: biss at epg.nist.gov (Robert Biss) (Robert Biss)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:12:23 +0000
Subject: cq cover photo's
Message-ID: <Q02FA018 at washer.NIST.GOV>

----------
X-Sun-Data-Type: text
X-Sun-Data-Description: text
X-Sun-Data-Name: text
X-Sun-Content-Lines: 22
X-Sun-Content-Length: 888

I thought that this idea would get started on its own a week or two ago but 
it seemed to have fizzled by the wayside because of some other controversy 
that arose at the time....

How many of you feel the way that I do about CQ's covers....THEY JUST DON'T 
HAVE ENOUGH CAPTION....

I know that there have been several every year that have really peaked my 
interest in regards to building a CONTESTING antenna farm on a small to 
mediocre sized lot.... I'd like to know more of what some ofthem have tried 
and settled on...

Wouldn't it be nice if some of our fraternity friends put out a caption of a 
paragraph or two (or more) on the reflector telling us just what is in those 
cover shots!!!!

How about it....anyone out there that can talk some of these cover guys into 
some text!!!!  Anyone else interested????

Contest season is coming!!!!

73's....bob   K3ZNV
BISS at EPG.NIST.GOV


>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner)  Mon Aug 14 22:26:11 1995
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 21:26:11 GMT
Subject: WAE CW
Message-ID: <cyBu0c1w165w at w2up.wells.com>

I posted score yesterday, but never saw the post reflected back. Sooo, I 
apologize if this is a dupe msg, but original seems to have gotten lost.

     BAND     QSO   QTC    Cty   Mult


      160       0     0      0      0
       80      40    40     13     52
       40     218   217     33     99
       20     401   401     38     76
       15      28    28      9     18
       10       0     0      0      0
      ================================================

    Totals    687   686     93    245 = 336,385

Op time = 12 hours

Comments:
For a laugh - some clown kept coming back W2DWN (get it? W2UP/W2DWN)
Another clown kept telling me "its TEST not NST." Hey, anything to save a 
little time!

Impressive signal on all bands - SP7GIQ. There may have been others as 
loud or louder, but it's rare to hear such a good signal from Eastern 
Europe.

SWR way out of sight on 80. Guess the water in the coax I dicovered a few 
months ago is finally taking its toll. Time to replace it, if it ever 
cools off outside.

QTCs... Too much asking for QTCs. To answer someone's earlier post, I 
basically agree with what KE2PF said. I don't want to interrupt a good 
run for QTCs, and lose the pileup. I even programmed one of the Function 
keys to say NIL! I like to give them out when have 10, not one or two. 
Also, if station asking for QTCs is weak (especially on 40 or 80) I don't 
like to give them cuz of all the repeats needed.

15 meters was strange. Several loud DLs, Gs, Is, but very few signals 
heard. Was envious of the W1s running on 15, and LU4FM moving stns to 10 
meters!
73 Barry

--

Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)
.......................................................................


>From Rich L. Boyd" <rlboyd at CapAccess.org  Mon Aug 14 23:26:57 1995
From: Rich L. Boyd" <rlboyd at CapAccess.org (Rich L. Boyd)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: cq cover photo's
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.950814182607.388I-100000 at cap1.capaccess.org>

I agree with K3ZNV -- for antenna covers it would be nice to have a 
description of what we're seeing...homebrew 5-el 20 on a 48' boom, 
homebrew 3-el 40 on a 48' boom (and the antenna heights too), that kind 
of detail.

Rich Boyd KE3Q


>From Frank Donovan <donovanf at sgate.com>  Tue Aug 15 00:24:34 1995
From: Frank Donovan <donovanf at sgate.com> (Frank Donovan)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:24:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Phased Beverages! (was: EVE vs Beverage?)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950814191242.14096A-100000 at jekyll.sgate.com>

If u want to try a really excellent receiving antenna try a pair of 
phased Beverages!  A pair of 580 foot Beverages, fed in phase, with sloped 
feeds and terminations, spaced 275 feet side-by-side, shows a pattern 
remarkably similar to a 3 element Yagi!   The side-by-side spaced 
in-phase Beverages result in nearly total cancellation of signals 
arriving from the sides.  The sloped feeds and terminations (for about 60 
feet) are critical to obtaining excellent front-to-back ratio.  

This same concept will work on 80 or 40 meters (or even higher 
frequencies!) by scaling the dimensions.

You can model Beverage antennas and other antennas in close proximity to 
the Earth with EZNEC or AO among others.  MININEC based models WILL NOT 
model Beverages or other antennas close to the ground.

73!
Frank
W3LPL
donovanf at sgate.com

On 14 Aug 1995, sellington wrote:

> >Does anyone have info on a comparison of a single element EWE vs a 
> >one to two wavelength Beverage  for 160/80M contesting/DXing use?
> 
> I modelled them a while ago.  The numbers aren't handy, but the two
> wavelength beverage is certainly far superior to a EWE.  A one wavelength
> beverage probably is also superior, though perhaps a sufficiently 
> large EWE would be close.
> 
> Scott  K9MA
> sellington at ssec.wisc.edu
> 

>From scotty at iquest.com (scotty neustadter)  Tue Aug 15 01:25:39 1995
From: scotty at iquest.com (scotty neustadter) (scotty neustadter)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:25:39 -0500
Subject: New Contest Radio
Message-ID: <199508150030.TAA26967 at vespucci.iquest.com>

Got a copy of the New product info on the Yaesu FT-1000MP
Features 
        Enhanced Disgital Signal Processing, 4 random noise reduction
settings, selectable bandpass filtering with adjustable low and high cut off
responses, and transmitted audio enhancement with four voice response
equalization technique.  Also has an automatic seek notch filter which will
identify and eliminate heterodynes and carriers.

        Has Collins Mechanical Filter (2.7KHZ) for SSB, (std) Optional 500HZ
Collins Mechanical available as well as xtal filters for 2.0KHZ and 250HZ.
Can cascade mechanical and xtal filters.

        Two VFO knobs, separate in band rx, modes and filtering can be
different.  0.625HZ resolution on DDS. Full feature contest memory keyer
built in (Keypad Required).  RS-232C level converter built in. Build in
antenna tuner. 100 watts out. 110 VAC, 220VAC or 13.8 VDC power.

        Selectable antenna jacks, rx only antenna jack included.

        Transverter Jack, direct freq display of VHF or UHF freq.

        Separate optimized FET RF preamps for high and low bands.

        Quick Memory Bank system for instant recall of memories.

Supposed to be available around Sept 1.  Believe there will be a demo at the
Huntsville, AL Hamfest this coming weekend.  Price rumored to be around $3000.
Scotty Neustadter, N4PYD
President, North Alabama DX Club
Huntsville Hamfest Chairman 
Internet: scotty at iquest.com
MCI Mail: N4PYD  Fax: 205 880 9530
 Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he
needs more of it than he already has. --Descartes


>From k2mm at MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM)  Tue Aug 15 02:09:28 1995
From: k2mm at MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM) (John Zapisek K2MM)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:09:28 PDT
Subject: C-3 Gain Figures
Message-ID: <9508150109.AA00901 at greylock.local>

Several readers have replied to my posting about the gain figures used by
Force-12 to describe their antennas (specifically, the C-3).  I had said
that I did not find it useful for them to compare their C-3 over average
ground at some convenient height against a dipole in free space.

The replies mostly said that the F-12 literature also contains gain figures
of a more conventional nature -- i.e., apples vs. apples.

Glad to hear it.  That sounds more like the Force-12 I'm familiar with.

Guess I should check out their literature myself.  If I had a QTH where I
could put up one of their antennas, I surely would have by now!

Thanks to all who sent replies:  Bob/N6IP, Pete/N4ZR, Bruce/WA7BNM,
Wes/N5WA, and John/ON4UN.

73 all!  --John/K2MM

>From James White <0006492564 at mcimail.com>  Tue Aug 15 02:59:00 1995
From: James White <0006492564 at mcimail.com> (James White)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 20:59 EST
Subject: Fwd: Octopus QFU
Message-ID: <25950815015952/0006492564PK2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

...............jeezus, you know Rich is right, they say that the memory is
the second thing to go - I forget what the first was.....

My appologies to Chuck, Mr Cigar, K5LZO - oops! Oh well, at least I had the
station right ('LES)....... 

K3ZZ informs me that at the other end of the octopus he had wrastled with
was noneother than K1ZND (K1ZZ)....it is nice to see that so many of our
brethren are still within the CONTEST sub-fraternity....although some seem
to have been heading higher and higher in frequency. 

I have also heard of the N2AA 20 meter station's battles of operators as to
whether the run statyion or the mult station should be the one to
x-mit...stories of N2AA and K2SS flashing papernotes at one another as to
why THEY should have the ball (i.e. "Double Mult" vs. "Great Run")... I
still say anybody who doesn't love CONTESTING is nuts.

......Rich I appreciate your bailing me out - you see I haven't been
sleeping well this week - Grandchild number 5 is due at any minute now
(running a day or two late so far) and when the fone rings at night Teresa
(Gammaw) and I tend to end up wide awake...there sure is a lot of crap on TV
at 3:00 AM. I am getting paranoiod, it seems phonecalls (wrong numbers) keep
happening - every night....the grandchildren have had a history of 0-Dark:30
arrivals, so we have been trying to turn in early to be prepared for the
inevitable 'phone call.  

.....I gather from your duping comments that we should perhaps recommend to
the N.O.W. gals (oops, women = "P.C.") that they officially thank K1EA,
K8CC, N6TR et al for their helping liberate wives, I mean significant
others, from duping!  Did you seen his comments, Susan, thoughts?

G'nite - time for some hot cocoa and then off to bed after I find that
damned BenGay...where the hell did I put it..............

                                                                 zx





-----------------
Forwarded Message

Date:     Mon Aug 14, 1995  2:15 pm  EST
Source-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:06 EST
From:     Richard L. King
          EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414
          MBX: 0007131253
 
TO:     * James White / MCI ID: 649-2564
Subject:  RE:Return of the Octopus
Message-Id: <23950814191532/0003765414DC1EM>
Source-Msg-Id: <31950814170613/0007131253PJ2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>
 

Jim is getting old and his memory is suffering like the rest of us. His
information was close but not exact. It was not WA5LES/K5PFL (K5RC/K5NA)
that had the octopus system for SS. It was WA5LES and K5LZO. The set-up
was explained to me by K5RC who claimed the anti-octopus rule that was
adapted afterwards should have been named after them.

Their set up had two operating positions on two desks that faced each 
other. They had two electro-mechanical counters that they could see 
that always had the next SS number to send on it. When one of them made
a QSO, he would slap a button that would update the counter by one at 
both places. Their rigs were interlocked so that only one of them 
could transmit at a time. But the end result was that one of them was
always transmitting.

An added interesting fact was that at the side of the two operating 
positions was a large dup sheet hung on the wall that was about 3 feet
high and 6 feet long. Their two wives at the time had the responsibility
to write the calls on the dup sheet using large marking pens so that
both operators could see the oversized dup sheet from his operating 
position. The wives were always listed as being additional operators 
in QST. Of course, now that we all have computers for duping, wives 
are no longer necessary. (Let's see if that starts a thread?)

I don't think the octopus rule still exists anywhere? I wonder if I 
should consider incorporating it in my new station I will be building 
in the Austin area. Yes, for those of you who haven't heard, the K5NA
station in NY will be dismantling in the next few months. It has been 
a good run here and I have really enjoyed it. I just hope I'm not 
getting too old to do it all over again at a new site. We'll see.

73, Richard
K5NA at MCIMAIL.COM



>From ni6t at ix.netcom.com (Garry Shapiro )  Tue Aug 15 03:26:55 1995
From: ni6t at ix.netcom.com (Garry Shapiro ) (Garry Shapiro )
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:26:55 -0700
Subject: Phased Beverages! (was: EVE vs Beverage?)
Message-ID: <199508150226.TAA25425 at ix9.ix.netcom.com>

You wrote: 
>
>If u want to try a really excellent receiving antenna try a pair of 
>phased Beverages!  A pair of 580 foot Beverages, fed in phase, with 
sloped 
>feeds and terminations, spaced 275 feet side-by-side, shows a pattern 
>remarkably similar to a 3 element Yagi!  
ovanf at sgate.com

I'd love to, Frank, I really would! But, curiously, I am one of those 
few people who just don't have the real estate to put two 580-foot 
wires side-by-side, spaced 275 feet. Darn! :>}

Garry, NI6T

>From Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com  Tue Aug 15 04:08:29 1995
From: Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com (Dr. Eugene Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fwd: Octopus QFU
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950814225645.15016G-100000 at DGS>

Jim

Back in 1976, my friend Paul Nugent W1NJX/3 in Annapolis decided that he 
wanted a two letter call and one with two of the same letters.  He 
thought that the ZZ combination would be a good idea.  AT the same time I 
was looking for a 2 letter call and chose the double letters for my last 
name even though the call ended in a dot - not so good on cw I thought.  
Well I thought I got the call W3ZZ and Paul got K3ZZ.  There has been 
constant confusion over this for 20 years even tho Paul has studiously 
avoided operating VHF and for the most part I have limited my efforts 
under my call in HF contests.

But now I find that I really don't know my own call.  Since you say

> K3ZZ informs me that at the other end of the octopus he had wrastled with
> was noneother than K1ZND (K1ZZ)....it is nice to see that so many of our
> brethren are still within the CONTEST sub-fraternity....although some seem
> to have been heading higher and higher in frequency. 

Paul who has been called Gene by the DX stations for 20 years is no doubt 
even more confused.

Oh well, I better check into this further.  Where did I put my 
license???  I seem to have forgotten . . . . 

73  Gene  W3ZZ
FM19jd  50 => 3456

BTW, this sounds like the fellow a few months ago who said that his 
amateur radio hero was Gus Browning W4KFC.  Now there would have been an 
operator of truly heroic proportions!!

>From kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart)  Tue Aug 15 04:40:05 1995
From: kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:40:05 -0400
Subject: NAQP Phone Team
Message-ID: <199508150340.XAA01710 at cais.cais.com>

        I'm looking for one, if anyone wants a lowly east coast NAQP score!

73, Tyler KF3P


>From k4sb at ix.netcom.com (Edward W. Sleight )  Tue Aug 15 04:52:18 1995
From: k4sb at ix.netcom.com (Edward W. Sleight ) (Edward W. Sleight )
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:52:18 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re: K3ZO's "don't ask first" philosophy
Message-ID: <199508150352.UAA19123 at ix8.ix.netcom.com>


Without pointing a finger at anyone, isn't the simple truth that if you
can hold the frequency, it's yours. If you can't, you'd do better to
consider another frequency.

That full wave ( baloon ) vertical I used in the last CQ160 did exactly
that, in spite of the fact the amp went qrt about 30 mins into the 
thing. 200 watts into that thing was more than sufficient to discourage
anyone from QRZ, although about a dozen did try, among them a very
prominent 3 ( NOT K3ZO ) and an overly optimistic 2.

73,

ed

                                                       



>From k4sb at ix.netcom.com (Edward W. Sleight )  Tue Aug 15 05:07:05 1995
From: k4sb at ix.netcom.com (Edward W. Sleight ) (Edward W. Sleight )
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 21:07:05 -0700
Subject: Fwd: New Contest Radio
Message-ID: <199508150407.VAA03087 at ix4.ix.netcom.com>


Before everyone gets too excited about the new Yaesu, wait till you
see the spec sheet on the new Kenwood. Just one secret for now, it has
NO filters, well actually it does, but not as we know them. IRC will no
longer be a problem for owners of this one.

73, Ed
K4SB at IX.NETCOM.COM


>From Takao KUMAGAI <je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp>  Tue Aug 15 06:46:12 1995
From: Takao KUMAGAI <je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp> (Takao KUMAGAI)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:46:12 +0900
Subject: I was unhappy(Re: NCJ - happy ending)
Message-ID: <199508150546.OAA14536 at dumpty.nal.go.jp>

on 95/08/12, Derek Wills writes:

Congratulation to Derek

But I had the un-happy ending and I gave up to subscribe NCJ.

I had a full collection of NCJ since #1 was issued and I loved 
to read it to gain the current contest breeze in USA for nearly 20 
years.

I sent a renewal for subscription by fax in late 92. No copies 
arrived by mid 93. So I sent another fax to send all the previous 
issues because I did not want to miss any issues. Then 3 previous 
issues and current one arrived. Okay my collection was completed.

Then I renewed in late 93 by fax but none was received so I sent 
another fax to the NCJ circulation department but no answer (ofcourse 
no NCJs). Should I sent the FAX every month to get the reply??

I was very unhappy with recent NCJ circulation dept.
sigh..
	---------
	Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
	TEL:81-30-066-6408, FAX:81-423-93-4449
	Internet: je1cka at nal.go.jp

>From Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com>  Tue Aug 15 07:31:00 1995
From: Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com> (Eugene Walsh)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:31 EST
Subject: Sucking Up to LPL!
Message-ID: <00950815063100/0004504465PK2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Gents;
 
Well, well;
 
     Just when I thought I had seen everything, 
someone (NI6T) bashes Frank Donovan for telling
us about his 2 bevvies side by side!  I, for one,
want to hear about extraordinary things, like these
beverages, which enhance the "Art" of listening,
especially in contests.
 
     Frank is deserving of great admiration for 
his activities in building that station over a
period measured in decades.  He has been very
clever.  His ability to recognize an opportunity 
to get towers, coax and other stuff is legendary.  
As far as I know, he ain't rich.  He has focused 
pretty well on doing these things, and has managed 
some pretty good steps, over the years, to having a 
really fine station.  K2GL he is not, but he has built 
a wonderfully competitive multi-multi station.  Just a 
few years ago he sold his house, bought a nice chunk of 
antenna growing land out in the boonies, and built another 
house.  Why should someone feel strange about this?  Even 
you, whoever you are, could do this if you focused on it.
 
     I never did what LPL did, and I figure it is 
my own damned fault - whatever the reasons.  A little 
thought, and you might come up with the same conclusion 
about what you do not have.
 
     The incredibly wonderful thing about what W3LPL has
done is that with drive, focus, hard work, a few smarts and 
a break or two, this could be done by any of us.  This is 
NOT a deluge of money, but a true application of focused 
energy over a large number of years.  I want to hear about
any part of Frank's extraordinary efforts which he is willing
to tell us about.
 
N2AA


>From Takao KUMAGAI <je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp>  Tue Aug 15 08:24:07 1995
From: Takao KUMAGAI <je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp> (Takao KUMAGAI)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:24:07 +0900
Subject: RUFZ hiscore & hint
Message-ID: <199508150724.QAA15352 at dumpty.nal.go.jp>


Burt's record was broken by N8RR now.
And here is his hint.

These scores are another world to me..
(Beyond my ability)

	---------
	Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
	TEL:81-30-066-6408, FAX:81-423-93-4449
	Internet: je1cka at nal.go.jp

=== RUFZ Score Listing === (last revised 8/15/95)

   42610    N8RR 216 416  7.267900
   40654    W2UP  38 416  7.146600
   39037  DF4PA2   8 390  7.655900
   36807  KC5NWX   7 367  7.779200 	(=KR0Y)
   34299  DL8WAA     397
   32070    K1AR  20 367  5.647600
   31710  DL3DZZ  19 367  7.180100
   31688    K1DG  24 367  5.530400
   31101  JE1JKL  20 347
   29778    K3WW  24 347  5.567600
   28859  JH0KHR   1 347  6.360500
   27596   KE2PF  44 328  5.580000
   24895    K5ZD  24 328
   24785  SM3OJR  13 328  6.021400
   24267  JH0NZN  27 312  5.771800
   23915    N3RS  23 312  4.683600
   21948    KR2Q  32 284  4.236900
   21281   KJ4VH  23 284  4.658000
   21133  JA0FVU  22 284  5.068200
   21116    ND3F   ? 297
   20744  JE1SPY  15 312
   20571    AD1C   4 297  3.900300
   19076    K1IU  15 271  3.818100

 ======
How to get RUFZ program
	ftp://maspar.maspar.com/pub/k2mm/rufz/rufz.zip
	ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/o/oolon/rufz.zip

	mail:info-contest at dumpty.nal.go.jp
with
	#get rufzpack.uue
in the body of the message.

------- je1cka at nal.go.jp forwards -------
From: <RFPWR at aol.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 21:56:18 -0400
To: je1cka at nal.go.jp
Subject: rufz

1     42610     N8RR    16      416       7.267900

PS: The number of attempts is 216, not 16: I cleared the rfzhiscr.dta file
after each 100 attempts.  After about 150 attempts with the built in computer
speaker, I decided to try something different. 
Not wanting to pull the mother board and hard wire an earphone connection to
my computer, I took the computer out of its case and placed a cheap
microphone next to the audio transducer. Then I fed the microphone into a
Radio Shack audio mixer/amplifier, and plugged my Heil headphones into the
mixer. 

It works well enough to make an immediate difference in my ability to hear
the s/h, a/u, g/z combinations at high speed. Not exactly a high tech
solution, but it was easy and worked. Now if only the weather would cool off
enough for me to get my antennas hooked up and back on the air. 

73, Chas   N8RR

------- End of forwarded message -------

>From Frank Donovan <donovanf at sgate.com>  Tue Aug 15 11:39:22 1995
From: Frank Donovan <donovanf at sgate.com> (Frank Donovan)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:39:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Phased Beverages! (was: EVE vs Beverage?) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950815063900.30095B-100000 at jekyll.sgate.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:35:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Donovan <donovanf at jekyll.sgate.com>
To: Patrick Collins <pcollins at freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Phased Beverages! (was: EVE vs Beverage?)

Hi Pat!
Half wave spacing is what you want (275 feet on 160M), regardless of 
Beverage length.  With this spacing, signals arriving off the side of the 
phased Beverages will be 180 degrees out of phase.  A pair of 1000 foot 
Beverages will have quite a narrow beamwidth, so u mite want to preserve the 
ability to run a single Beverage as well!

For those who do not use 3 element Yagis on 40M, you can get similar 
receive performance with a phased pair of 145 foot Beverages spaced 70 feet
side-by-side.  The same idea will work on 20 meters, if u scale it down.
  
BTW, several large military facilities use very large Beverage receiving 
arrays up to 30 MHz and higher to obtain low sidelobe performance (about 
-40 dB) with narrow beamwidths!

73!
Frank
W3LPL
donovanf at sgate.com


On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Patrick Collins wrote:

> What would a good spacing for a pair of 1000' beverages for 160?
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Pat Collins                                    pcollins at freenet.columbus.oh.us
> NZ4K	
> 
> 
> 


>From James White <0006492564 at mcimail.com>  Tue Aug 15 12:58:00 1995
From: James White <0006492564 at mcimail.com> (James White)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 06:58 EST
Subject: ZX busts another call!
Message-ID: <31950815115813/0006492564PK3EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

....jeezus, I did it again...sorry Gene, I agree that despite the dits it is
a gud suffix, and think Phil N6same (among others) agrees, too!
                                                   
thats K5LZO not K5PFL
and W3ZZ not K3ZZ

   .......if I was in California I would really worry about the next strike!
                                  

                                zx   


                still awaiting Grandchild #5 (and a good nites sleep)


>From cady at mainman.ee.montana.edu (Fred Cady)  Tue Aug 15 15:21:55 1995
From: cady at mainman.ee.montana.edu (Fred Cady) (Fred Cady)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:21:55 -0600
Subject: Old solar flux numbers
Message-ID: <199508151421.IAA04642 at mainman.ee.montana.edu>

Does anybody know of a web or ftp site with old solar flux records?
I want to see what actual conditions were for the end of November
1993 and 1994 to compare some miniprop runs with actual conditions 
in the CQWW contests of those year.  Does anybody have these records
or know where I can find them?

Thanks, Fred KE7X
ieefc at msu.oscs.montana.edu
Fred Cady (ieefc at msu.oscs.montana.edu)


>From millersg at dmapub.dma.org (Steve Miller)  Tue Aug 15 16:35:04 1995
From: millersg at dmapub.dma.org (Steve Miller) (Steve Miller)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Old solar flux numbers
Message-ID: <m0siO1A-00029GC at dmapub.dma.org>

> Does anybody know of a web or ftp site with old solar flux records?
> 
> Thanks, Fred KE7X


Try this from the Solar Radio Group of the National Research Council Canada:

http://www.drao.nrc.ca/web/solar.shtml

you should be able to get solar flux data from there.


You may also want to check out the National Geophysical Data Center:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/

The Solar Terrestrial Physics area also contains ionospheric and 
geomagnetic data

-- 
Steve Miller
millersg at dmapub.dma.org
WD8IXE - Ridin' the aethereal waves



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