Contests and Vanities

[K1GQ at eworld.com]

The real reasons I picked K1GQ

(1) Nobody else would pick "GQ"
(2) I loved the sound of ZL3GQ (still do)
(3) Dots at the end of a call get lost -- I was KH6GNE before KH6GPQ.

I'll be keeping it, since I never use it anyway.

Bl
-- 
                      Fred Hopengarten K1VR
           Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
     home + office telephone:  617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
                   internet:  k1vr at k1vr.jjm.com
                  "Big antennas, high in the sky,
                  are better than small ones, low."

>From Randy Thompson <k5zd at iconics.com>  Thu Jun  1 00:05:22 1995
From: Randy Thompson <k5zd at iconics.com> (Randy Thompson)
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:05:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WPX CW Callsign Thing
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.950531184844.3710B-100000 at genesis.iconics.com>


On Tue, 23 May 1995, Stankiewicz, Warren, NF1J wrote:

> I, Warren C. Stankiewicz, holder of Amateur Call Sign NF1J, do hereby 
> authorize and grant permission to one Randall Thompson, holder of Amateur 
> Call Sign K5ZD, to use my callsign for the period May 26 through May 29, 
> 1995, for the purposes of operating the CQ WW WPX CW Contest.
> 

Dear Warren,

Thank you for your offer (shown above) for me to use your call in the WPX
CW contest.  I very much appreciate the positive response to my request. 
I apologize that I made the decision to use my own call at the last minute
and did not inform you of this until Sunday evening (I was in the
contest!).  We had several discussions leading up to the above message you
sent to me.  If you were planning to operate the contest, you should have
just said no to my request.  It would have been no big deal as I had several
alternatives. 

Actually, my wife had been asking me about the ethics of "borrowing" a 
call for a contest.  She didn't think it sounded right (and she is not a 
ham!).  So I think one of the reasons she even let me continue the 
contest was because I was using my own call.

In any event, you (and others) who decide to let someone borrow your call 
should be aware of what could happen.  It could be used illegally.  It 
could be used in a lid-like fashion.  Or it could be not used at all.  If 
you think you will operate yourself, don't make a committment for someone 
else to use your call.  Seems like common sense.

I am not sure what "benefits" you expected to derive from having your call
active for the contest.  There were no guarantees of length of the
operation (I could have gotten sick or had equipment failure) or the
outcome (anyone could have won).   I had agreed only to give you a copy 
of the logs, to do the QSL card labels, and to give you a copy of any 
certificates/trophys that may result.

I would have preferred to have this discussion privately, but you chose to
take it to the 'net.  Before it gets a life of its own, I wanted to
provide my side of the story.  What I wrote in my review of my operation
is an accurate depiction of how I made the decision of what call to use. 
My only regret is that I did not call you or send an e-mail on Friday
afternoon so you could have had some warning. 

Respectfully submitted to the court of public opinion.

Randall A. Thompson, K5ZD
k5zd at iconics.com



>From oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)  Thu Jun  1 00:36:43 1995
From: oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:36:43 -0500
Subject: borrowed calls

	>>So it is not illegal to use someone else's station to work a 
        >>country as long as you have his permission to use your own 
        >>call AND YOU ARE THE OPERATOR!

That wasn't the question.   I do the above all the time, operating from
our campus club station using my call.  In fact, it's the only operating
I do.

The original poster said that it was OK to use someone else's call from 
your own station, which would imply that I can sit in a pile-up and work
a DX station with several different calls in a row if my friends have
asked me to do it.   Well, I don't have such friends and have never
done it, but I didn't think it was legal.


	Many CONTESTS have in the rules that the operators in a multi-op 
        contest do not work stations under their own callsigns, once they 
        have operated under the multi-op callsign.

Sorry, I should have worked the c-word into the posting, I forget which
reflector I was replying to...   But is it OK to break contest rules if
you are not intending to send in a log?   Can I use my own call and the
club call on the same person?   And then the calls of some friends...?

Confused of Austin,
Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu

>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner)  Thu Jun  1 01:22:59 1995
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 00:22:59 GMT
Subject: WC4E / WPX - TIC Rings
Message-ID: <15NZ6c2w165w at w2up.wells.com>

N2NU at aol.com writes:

> 
> Can anyone out there tell me what TIC stands for?  Barry (W2UP) I know that
> you know the answer, you're disqualified from this competition.  Please post
> your serious (and frivilous) answers here.  All decisions by the judges are
> final.
> 
> Enyoo
> 
> 

Bummer. This is one contest I could win!

BTW, I agree with John. After the intial headaches, part swaps, assembly 
nightmares... Mine has worked flawlessly since instillation (just under a 
year).

--

Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)
.......................................................................


>From wrt at eskimo.com (Bill Turner  W7LZP)  Thu Jun  1 04:18:20 1995
From: wrt at eskimo.com (Bill Turner  W7LZP) (Bill Turner  W7LZP)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 03:18:20 +0000
Subject: FD & Emergency ops/park rangers
Message-ID: <199506010318.AA03218 at mail.eskimo.com>

At 04:11 PM 5/31/95 -0400, KR2J at aol.com wrote:
>We too have had trouble with the Rangers here in NJ.
>
>We have a mountiantop location for Field Day and there is a fire lookout
>tower there that is about 65' tall.  Perfect antanna support.  We strapped my
>2 el KLM 40 on it last year and it worked great.  The rangers blew a gasket
>when they saw it on sunday morning!  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You're lucky you didn't get arrested.  If I'd been the ranger, you might
have.  Stunts like this give ham radio a bad name and make it difficult for
the rest of us.  Wise up.

W7LZP



>From wrt at eskimo.com (Bill Turner  W7LZP)  Thu Jun  1 04:25:18 1995
From: wrt at eskimo.com (Bill Turner  W7LZP) (Bill Turner  W7LZP)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 03:25:18 +0000
Subject: St. Martin Station Rental?
Message-ID: <199506010325.AA04288 at mail.eskimo.com>

At 06:17 PM 5/31/95 -0400, Greg Becker wrote:
>
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>=FCn=BF.=B6=C1Li=F2l=E96=B1e
>p>=A7=FD=F3=B1L=BAN=F3=A9=E9D.e=B0=E6`=F1=CD=A4vkiOm=EE=D2tb=FD=C3FYyog=F3=
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I felt the same way after missing S0RASD........twice!!



73, Bill  W7LZP
wrt at eskimo.com