Modest SS effort

Thu Nov 9 12:21:35 EST 1995

Our 20-hour SS effort from Corolla  on the Outer banks of North Carolina

yielded the following:

	Band	QSO	Pts	Sections
	160	  0		  -
	 80	208	416
	 40	150	300	
	 20	123	246
	 15	 20	 40
	 10	  0	  0

 Total	501    1002	 77	Total = 77,154


 Gear: FT-890, Dentron Clipperton, R-7, Carolina Windom
	AEA MB232 TNC, Alinco DR-1200 packet xcvr, 4-el 2 mtr
	beam, Compaq 3/25 laptop

	Got off to a very slow start, but found 80 and 40 really
productive.  Our first time ever to make the sweep.  Already planning
for next year.
					Vy 73, Don, W4ZYT

>From k8mr at (Jim Stahl)  Thu Nov  9 17:30:38 1995
From: k8mr at (Jim Stahl) (Jim Stahl)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 12:30:38 EST
Subject: K8MR CW SS Single Op/Multi Station
Message-ID: <RT8aeD2w165w at>

Again this year I operated single op/multi station in CW SS,
operating from four stations:
         W9OCF       K8MR        AC8E       N8ATR        TOTAL
80        118         363           0         107          588
40        117          77         208         225          627
20         46           0         117          12          175
15         20           0          68           0           88
TOT       301         440         393         344         1478
SEC        67          70          74          68           75
SCORE   40,334      61,600      58,164      46,784     206,882
TIME      6:00        6:27        6:29        4:39       23:35
      2100-0041    0057-0540      1459-       2221-
      0053-0734    0745-0820      2128        0300
      1335-1414    1203-1311
MISSED      NM          ID          ND          MS
           EWA          NE         VE8         EWA
            NE          SD          VI          WY
            ND         VE5                     VE1
           VE1         VE8                     VE6
           VE5         KL7                     VE8
           VE7          VI                     KH6
           VE8                                 KL7
           KH6                                  VI
Single/Multi is definitely the way to beat the Sunday blahs!  I
had some radio problems (one operator induced, one the radio's
fault) at W9OCF, but the other stations played well.  All were
single radio operations.  The best hours (90 qsos) were 02Z on 80
at MR and 23Z on 40 at ATR. I heard the VY1JA pileup from AC8E on
Sunday, but decided not to waste the time. It's neat on Sunday
evening to have all the big guns calling in, and being able to
see who's doing how well.  It's also interesting comparing how
quick the various two radio guys are at finding a new guy on the
I'm still impressed that the very top guys make more qsos without
the advantage of being able to work everyone four times! 
73    -    Jim   K8MR    k8mr at

Jim Stahl
InterNet: k8mr at
Basic Amateur Radio Frequency, BARF-80 +1 216/237-8208
"Totally devoted to Amateur Radio" - 24 Hrs a day 8/N/1 14.4k-300 baud

>From beaton at (Alastair Beaton)  Thu Nov  9 18:13:22 1995
From: beaton at (Alastair Beaton) (Alastair Beaton)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:13:22 GMT
Subject: Amplifier failures
Message-ID: <199511091813.SAA12069 at>

Having successfully "smoked" several amps during contests, I have a "noted
interest" in comments posted on the reflector regarding "big bang" theory! 

One possible reason is that whereas a few years ago most mere mortals ran a
set-up with only the rig's own fist mike, the rig and the linear, nowadays a
typical contest station will have a mike with one of those groovy Heil
inserts, lots of processing and perhaps DSP.

Therefore the "average" (RMS?) power will be considerably greater, putting
greater demands on the power supply. Amps with "HI/LO (SSB/CW)" switches
which throw a couple of hundred more volts at the anode would therefore be
running under greater load than their makers intended. Also, the Cluster now
means that more of us pick a frequency at the start of acontest and bellow
continuously for 48 hours, pausing only for a fast QSY to pick up the Mults
- spending less time H&P'ing with the amp off-line.

The solution might be to leave amps on "LO" HT...


>From Chad Kurszewski  WE9V <kurscj at>  Thu Nov  9 18:22:32 1995
From: Chad Kurszewski  WE9V <kurscj at> (Chad Kurszewski WE9V)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:22:32 -0600
Subject: attracting new blood
Message-ID: <199511091822.MAA06862 at>

>At 12:37 PM 11/6/95 -0600, KC4ZV wrote:
>>Congrats to all on FB SS CW scores. 
>>As you go over your SS CW logs, it might not hurt to send a note in
>>the mail to ANY station with a check of '94 or '95 you worked during
>>the contest.

Then, At 07:20 AM 11/9/95 -0800, Pete Smith wrote:
>Actually I plan to QSL everyone with a
>check of 92 or later, for that same reason, with a note  "hope to CU in
>other tests!"

Great idea guys.

But you may want to consider putting something along the lines of,
"No QSL necessary.  Just wanted to thank you for getting on the contest."

I just would hate to see all these new comers, and youngsters, overloaded
with what would seem like QSL requests, especially if they are hurting
for cash.

Chad Kurszewski, WE9V             e-mail:  Chad_Kurszewski at
Sultans of Shwing        Loud is Cool..yeah, heh, heh, LOUD IS COOL!!!
The Official Sultans Web Site:

>From ve7sbo at (Bill Rindone )  Thu Nov  9 18:24:31 1995
From: ve7sbo at (Bill Rindone ) (Bill Rindone )
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:24:31 -0800
Subject: Aging Contesters
Message-ID: <199511091824.KAA03338 at>


Geotge, (AA3JU)

Have bit my tongue for days on this subject, hoping someone would would come
up with my thought (not so). 

Although I think we have far too many contest categories. I think one more
is necessary. "First (or perhaps first two) time entry this contest
category". Call it what you will, but the thought of running against some of
us crotchetty old f...s with stacked arrays and stacked tubes may be the
biggest deterrent around. Let them have a first year against other mere
mortals to catch their breath, see their name in print and get hooked.

Bill, VE7SBO, etc.

>From JOHN GOLOMB <GOLOMB at LAKEHURST.NAVY.MIL>  Thu Nov  9 17:49:35 1995
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 12:49:35 -0500
Subject: N2NT (KZ2S op) SS CW
Message-ID: <s0a203b6.003 at LAKEHURST.NAVY.MIL>

CW SS is one of my favorite contests.  Like K1ZX, SS was the first
contest I ever did.  It's always nice to work the familiar calls each
year.  It's even better to see new calls in the log each year. 
Anyway, here's some info about my CW SS operation from N2NT this

For the last three years, I've done CW SS with my callsign, but
operated from the QTH of Bill, NF2L in SNJ.  For those of you who
don't know, NF2L is where Andy, N2NT has been doing single op efforts
in CQWW for the past few years.  There have also been several
multioperator efforts from NF2L using N2NT's callsign in the ARRL DX
contests.  Needless to say, it was a huge station.  Earlier this year
Bill decided to downsize his station.  Because of this, NF2L wasn't
available for a serious SS effort.

N2NT received permits to put up his towers over the summer.  I guess
it was sometime in September that Andy said:  "I need incentive to
put all this aluminum in the air, if I get some antennas up for CW SS
you'll come over and operate .. right".  He said he would even have
everything all set up for a two radio SS effort.  I said sure, but
didn't think we would be ready.  To make a long story short,
everything was ready by the week before SS,  including automatic
bandswitching w/ computer iterfaces for both stations.  With this
setup the only thing I had to remember to do was tune the amps when I
changed bands.

I started warming up on 40 meters about 15 minutes before the start
of the contest.  K1AR called me and he was pretty weak.  We discussed
about how bad this SS was going to be given the fact that 40 was
"long" before the start of the contest.  Also tried to QSY to 15 with
KR0Y before the contest and we couldn't hear each other.  I began to
prepare myself for what was beginning to look like a washout weekend
as far as conditions were concerned.  

Well, conditions weren't so bad after all.  40 stayed short enough
saturday night and to quote several others who have already posted
here, "There's no meters like 40 meters".  20 was also fairly good
sunday morning/afternoon.  I had quite a bit of success running on 20
sunday morning which I haven't been able to do in previous years.

I think we should all thank Billy and Warren at ARRL for bringing SS
back to life with the PINS and Sweep Mugs programs started a few
years ago.  Sunday is no longer a drag in SS.  The top scores being
made now are amazing.  I think some of the top CW scores would have
made the top ten PHONE box 10 or 15 years ago.

CW SS is one of the best Contests!

CU in CQWW CW from N2RM

- John KZ2S

Here are station details and breakdown:

10 - 6 ele @ 100'
15 - 6 ele @ 95'
20 - 204BA @ 108'
40 - 402CD @ 115'
80 - dipole @ 90'
beverages for receive

"left" station  - IC765 + Ten Tec Titan
"right" station - IC765 + B&W  2 X 3-500Z amp

automatic bandswitching / antenna selection for both stations

      Call: N2NT (KZ2S op)    


      160        0        0        -
       80      317      634        -
       40      778     1556        -
       20      242      484        -
       15       48       96        -
       10        0        0        -

     Totals   1385     2770       76 (missed KP2)

               Score:  210,520


HOUR     80       40       20       15     HR TOT  CUM TOT

  21   .....    61/21    19/12     9/5      89/38   89/38
  22     .      42/7      9/3     27/5      78/15  167/53
  23     .      67/3     13/2       .       80/5   247/58
   0     .      84/4      3/0       .       87/4   334/62
   1    1/0     85/2      2/0       .       88/2   422/64
   2   19/2     52/1       .        .       71/3   493/67
   3   63/1     13/1       .        .       76/2   569/69
   4   63/3      9/0       .        .       72/3   641/72
   5   55/0      8/0     .....    .....     63/0   704/72
   6   38/0     16/0       .        .       54/0   758/72
   7   20/0     31/0       .        .       51/0   809/72
   8    9/0     22/0       .        .       31/0   840/72
   9   17/0      3/1       .        .       20/1   860/73
  10     .        .        .        .         .    860/73
  11     .        .        .        .         .    860/73
  12    6/0     19/0       .        .       25/0   885/73
  13    8/0     48/0     .....    .....     56/0   941/73
  14    2/0     45/1      3/0       .       50/1   991/74
  15     .      38/0      3/0       .       41/0  1032/74
  16     .       8/0     15/0      3/0      26/0  1058/74
  17     .       6/0     50/2       .       56/2  1114/76
  18     .        .      49/0      1/0      50/0  1164/76
  19     .      11/0      8/0       .       19/0  1183/76
  20     .      22/0     21/0       .       43/0  1226/76
  21   .....    .....    12/0      8/0      20/0  1246/76
  22     .      12/0     23/0       .       35/0  1281/76
  23     .      14/0      8/0       .       22/0  1303/76
   0     .      15/0      4/0       .       19/0  1322/76
   1    5/0     15/0       .        .       20/0  1342/76
   2   11/0     32/0       .        .       43/0  1385/76
DAY1  301/6    690/41   195/19    40/10       .   1226/76
DAY2   16/0     88/0     47/0      8/0        .    159/0
TOT   317/6    778/41   242/19    48/10     ..... 1385/76


>From aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Thu Nov  9 18:06:36 1995
From: aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:06:36 -0400
Subject: K1TO - SS CW 1995 sum/brk/text
Message-ID: <v01520d03acc7f19a3b16@[]>

>On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, LondonSM wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 10:54pm, K1to at wrote:
>> >
>> > One solution is to eliminate off-time altogether.  Since this is already a
>> > short contest (why have the DX contest be 48 straight hours, then have
>> > mandatory off time in a contest that is half as long??), since the
>> > dilute the activity on Sunday, and since there is room for varying
>> > interpretations of the off-time rules, I would really like to see this be a
>> > 24-hour contest.  I'm a big fan of the IARU contest which has exactly that
>> > format.  Is "tradition" the overriding factor here?  At least I'm not
>> > advocating working guys on multiple bands or shortening the exchange!
>> >
>> > What say, guys?
>        How about letting everyone work everyone on every band too ???
>       I know a lot of people who will not operate SS because they think
>       it is a BORING contest......

I disagree on both counts.

The rules make SS interesting. Without off-times, it would be more of a
test of total endurance. Very little strategy. Sure, some people rubber
clock and cheat. I know that *I* don't.

Without the rule of working stations ONCE, the little gun would be
effectively shut out of SS. The contest would degenerate into big-guns
calling each other on each band.

A little gun can have a lot of fun opening up on Sunday afternoon with the
current rules.

And the long exchange -- that's what makes SS unique! Much more challenging
than merely copying a callsign and letting your logging software provide
the exchange.

Keep the rules as they are. Don't fix what is not broken. If you want a
"different" contest, as the contest advisory committee to come up with
another domestic contest, or operate one of the other semi-domestic (eg NA)
events. Don't screw up SS, please!

Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -- Steve

>From mraz at (Kris I. Mraz)  Thu Nov  9 19:54:08 1995
From: mraz at (Kris I. Mraz) (Kris I. Mraz)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:54:08 CST
Subject: How Long to Sweep?
Message-ID: <9511091954.AA22306 at>

Here's the summary of responses to the question "When did you work
section #77 and which section was it"? Most of these were in response
to my post.  However, if I could determine the information from soapbox
submitted to cq-contest I included that info also. I only list the call
used in the contest and not necessarily the call of the person
operating. Thanks to everyone for responding.

Kris AA5UO
mraz at

Number of data points: 20
Last Section: 8  VI
              6  YU/NWT
              3  PQ
              1  NV
              1  ND
              1  MAR

Earliest: 0701Z 5 Nov 95
Latest:   0255Z 6 Nov 95

W6QHS   0701  NV
N4ZC    1100  YU/NWT
NJ4F    1630  VI
AA5UO   1758  PQ
AB6FO   2059  VI
NI6T    2131  VI
W6OAT   2132  VI
W4ZYT   2215  YU/NWT
K6XO    2216  MAR
AA6MC   2222  VI
KM0L    2229  ND
NF6H    2231  VI
W2VJN/7 2258  VI
AC1O/4  2300  VI

N0AX    0015  YU/NWT
K7MM    0030  YU/NWT
AA7NX   0127  PQ
KO9Y    0130  YU/NWT
K3WW    0252  PQ
KU8E    0255  YU/NWT

>From H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at  Thu Nov  9 20:11:39 1995
From: H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at (H. Ward Silver)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:11:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Contest College
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9511091239.E28808-b100000 at>

Danny (SS) asked me to post a note about the Contest College of the
Western Washington DX Club (WWDXC).  I can't claim credit for the idea, I
believe Jack, WA0RJY, and Adam, AA7FT, thought it up.

The general idea is to offer hands-on experience with ops that are REALLY
good at one of the facets of contesting.  There was a course on computer
logging, for example.  Supposedly, there is a list of how many "credits" a
person earns...but don't hold your breath for a big graduation ceremony!

Some of the courses are "lectures~ and others "labs".  Our next course is
a lab - Phone SS.  A local fellow who is interested in contesting (N7SEJ)
has volunteered his station for a multi-single event.  We'll haul some
extra gear over there, put up a 75-meter dipole, and let 'er rip.  We'll
use two PCs running TR-LOG 5.51 and let folks log, spot, run, etc.  Danny
is going to give pointers on how to maintain rate, while Jack and I will
help with logging tips, mult spotting, and the like.  I expect that the
team will make around 1000 Q's.

If thre is sufficient interest, we'll find another station and get the
teams competeing with each other.  These are mostly ops with some DXing or
light contesting experience that would like to get up on the learning
curve in a hurry.  I don't think this particular course would work for raw
newbies or shack-on-a-beltees.  The pre-requisites are too stiff!  But a
newbie course could certainly be set up.

We plan on having one or two courses a year.  Topics that have been
discussed are:

WW vs. ARRL vs. WPX DX contests
Using Packet with Computer Logging
Hot Shot CW Contesting
CT vs. NA vs. TR-LOG Survey
Contesting vs. DXing station setup


I'm sure you get the idea.  We should work a little harder at it and have
the courses on a schedule...but, hey!  It's contest season!

73, Ward "Dr. Beldar", N0AX

>From Jim Hollenback" <jholly at  Thu Nov  9 20:48:38 1995
From: Jim Hollenback" <jholly at (Jim Hollenback)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:48:38 -0800
Subject: club competition SS question
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.951109120740.20813A-100000 at>
Message-ID: <9511091248.ZM2234 at>

On Nov 9, 12:12pm, Rich L. Boyd wrote:
> Subject: club competition SS question
> I'd like your thoughts and see if I can find a consensus.
> 1.  Give me your perspective in general.

I think the idea of revitalize the club is a fine idea should
be persued with vigor in an honest fashion. What you seem to be
propsing is a method to maximize the PVRC score.

> 2.  In the club competition my view is the contest isn't over for
> score eligibility purposes until the second weekend (second mode) since
> the modes are combined.

The CW contest was over 0300Z, November 6, the SSB contest will be over
0300Z November 20. Yes, the club competition is over the 20th. The
individuals eligibility is based on membership dates, not contest dates.
The club score is scores submitted by eligible members. If some one joins
between the CW and SSB contests his SSB log should be considered, his
CW log not.

> 3.  The contest may not be "over," for these purposes until the log
> deadline.  If someone meets the eligibility requirements by the log
> deadline is that sufficient?

Do you rubber clock also? Is that ethical? Come on, Rich, the contest
is over at 2400Z or 0300Z the weekend of the contest, not 4 weeks
later. When flag comes down the race is over. The guys down 5 laps down
don't get to continue to race.

> 4.  Do you see this as an ethical question (at all) or more of a
> technical question of the sponsor's requirements?

No, I see it as a ethical question. It is a matter of how you are attempting
to circumvent the sponsors rules and requirements. Until the requirements are
changed, I think you should live by the rules, spirit and letter. Given that a
member joins after the CW and before the SSB he met the requirement for 1
meeting before the contest requirement. (but only for SSB, not CW since he was
not a member at that time). But how do you know for sure he will attend another
meeting during the year? Given that there no rigorous checking of membership
records we would never know. But is that how you want to compete?

my $0.02 worth.

73, Jim, WA6SDM
jholly at

>From aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Thu Nov  9 20:12:39 1995
From: aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:12:39 -0400
Subject: CW SS at W5WMU
Message-ID: <v01520d04acc8082887c8@[]>

>I have been pestered to do a short summary of my effort at W5WMU in
>the CW Sweepstakes.
>First off, let me correct my score.  I found out last night that I had
>operated 25 hours, instead of 24.

Uh, oh.

>  Guess I was having so much fun, I
>didn't want it to end.  Because of this, I will have to remove my last
>41 QSOs.

Wait a second. Is that fair? What about the 41 people you worked in that
time frame. Shouldn't they get credit for the QSOs they worked? If you
remove them from your log, their logs won't be valid.

To be ethical, I don't think it is right for you to remove QSOs from your
log. You should submit your log as is, with a summary sheet for the first
24 hours. Write a letter telling what you did. Leave it up to the log
checkers to decide if your action is disqualifying or not.

Technically, you broke the rules. Technically, that should disqualify you.
Bill KM9P disqualifed himself recently for a much minor infraction than
operating an extra hour. Perhaps the checkers would be more lenient. (I
would. I'd likely pull your 41 Qs, plus extract penalty Qs, but give credit
to those who worked you in the extra hour)

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I just felt it had to be said. With
all the innuendo (but no accusations) of unethical operating practices,
perhaps its time we set a high standard. If the big guns bend the rules to
suit them, what does that teach little guns and up-and-coming contestors
about the rules?

>Also, our thoughts are with Bill, KM9P, who missed the contest with a
>sick child.  Being a father, this is something that can happen to
>any of us, and we missed Bill in this one (KM9P was operated by K7GM).

A Bill will be operating SSB SS from KM9P, but it won't be Mr Fisher
(KM9P). It will be me (AA4LR)! He has graciously permitted me to use his

Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -- Steve

>From Pete Soper <psoper at>  Thu Nov  9 22:07:48 1995
From: Pete Soper <psoper at> (Pete Soper)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:07:48 EST
Subject: Voice Blaster info needed
Message-ID: <8392.9511092207 at>

Could somebody send me (ME, psoper at, not the reflector) the phone 
number of the "Voice Blaster" vendor? I was told it was advertised in "NCJ"
in the past but can't find the ad in my (first) copy. If the vendor is on the
Internet his email address would be a help. Finally, I'm curious what the 
(discontinued) K1EA DVP does that "Voice Blaster" does not do? 

Assuming I get any info I'll send one copy back to the list so it will be in 
the archives.


Pete Soper  (psoper at    KS4XG        1+ 919 481 3730,  481 3868/FAX 
Encore Computer Corp  901 Kildaire Farm Rd  Cary, NC 27511  USA    grid FM05oq

>From Joseph M. O'Brien" <jobrien at  Thu Nov  9 22:31:10 1995
From: Joseph M. O'Brien" <jobrien at (Joseph M. O'Brien)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:31:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CW SS at W5WMU
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951109171255.1579A-100000 at morpheus>


	Just a few thoughts on the post (speaking soley for myself):

	A.) I'm sure QSOs made during the 25th hour will be reported,      
but  worth 0 points each. Any op. who contests with any seriousness and  
any respect for the sport (I think N6TR qualifies) would be well aware  
that simply deleting the offending QSOs would be unfair to the stations  
who worked him during the  extra hour.

	B.) There are NO grounds for DQ here if N6TR only includes the QSOs 
made during his first 24 hours of operation towards his score.  After 24 
hours on, the whistle blows and everything later doesn't 
count. If he were to "rubber clock" (i.e. substitute the 25th hour for, say, 
the slow 13th hour), then there would be a DQ--something that doesn't 
look too likely considering his summary report! 

I really think there is a danger of jumping to the ethics violation 
conclusion sometimes. Honest errors happen, and often a perfectly ethical 
solution exists. 

Good luck and I hope to work you in the SS SSB!

Joe, WI2E

(op. @multi-ops N3KZ & WI2N)

>From aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Thu Nov  9 21:35:16 1995
From: aa4lr at (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:35:16 -0400
Subject: CW SS at W5WMU
Message-ID: <v01520d06acc8230dd955@[]>

>: Wait a second. Is that fair? What about the 41 people you worked in that
>: time frame. Shouldn't they get credit for the QSOs they worked? If you
>: remove them from your log, their logs won't be valid.
>: To be ethical, I don't think it is right for you to remove QSOs from your
>: log. You should submit your log as is, with a summary sheet for the first
>: 24 hours. Write a letter telling what you did. Leave it up to the log
>: checkers to decide if your action is disqualifying or not.
>I am sure that he would send a list of the extra qsos with his log
>to the arrl.

His original message said he would delete them.

>: Technically, you broke the rules. Technically, that should disqualify you.
>: Bill KM9P disqualifed himself recently for a much minor infraction than
>: operating an extra hour. Perhaps the checkers would be more lenient. (I
>: would. I'd likely pull your 41 Qs, plus extract penalty Qs, but give credit
>: to those who worked you in the extra hour)
>In what way did Tree break the rules?

Uh, the rule that says "operate 24 hours of the 30 hour contest period."

>He is removing the extra
>qsos to correct the error - now if he were to remove the
>41 qsos at random from the log or take out say his
>worst hour that would be diffrent - but big deal he screwed up
>and did an extra hour - if he takes the qsos for the extra hour
>out of the log - that fixes it and give 41 people one extra qso
>they would not have gotten.

Ok, so why don't we all operate the entire 30 hour period and only count
the first 24 hours? Or maybe we should pick the best continuous 24 hours
period, or maybe it could be discontinuous?

Fact is, that's not how you are supposed to operate SS. The rules say 24
hours out of the 30.

The contest log checkers are responsible for ajudication of the rules. Not
Tree, not me. If I were a log checker, I would assess a penalty of some
kind for this "excess" operating.

If the log checkers don't mind "excess" operating, then they should change
the rules so people who want to can operate the entire 30 hour period. That
would certainly help to eliminate some of the Sunday doldrums, especially
near the end of the contest.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -- Steve

>From bruce at (Bruce Marshall)  Thu Nov  9 22:43:25 1995
From: bruce at (Bruce Marshall) (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:43:25 -0500
Subject: SS rule changes?
Message-ID: <199511092243.AA15526 at>

I hope they keep the Sweepstakes the same as it has always been.  I just had
time to get in about 10 hours this year but it was fun as usual.  I guess
this was about my 25th SS in 30 years.

Please keep the time off the same.

Do not shorten the exchange.  It was longer than the present format at one many remember that?  Used to be: NR PREC CALL DATE SECT BIRTHDAY
(no kidding) and TIME.

Bruce/WA1G (ex-WA1EOT)

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>From R.B. Vallio" <wsixrgg at  Thu Nov  9 23:02:39 1995
From: R.B. Vallio" <wsixrgg at (R.B. Vallio)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:02:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CW SS at W5WMU
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951109150033.22943G-100000 at>

Chill out.

It's happened before, and it will happen again.

The solution, historically, is to assign zero points to any
contact made after 24 hours.  Nothing less, and nothing more.

Bob - W6RGG

wsixrgg at

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