Contest Welfare
Mike.Tope at Sciatl.COM
Mike.Tope at Sciatl.COM
Thu Sep 28 19:12:00 EDT 1995
>or just plain cheat. It would just redistribute the certificates
>sort of like welfare redistributes the wealth . . . :-)|
>Stan W7NI at teleport.com
The real reward in a contest is not a piece of paper that says that
you are a winner, but rather, it is the experience of competition
itself, and the self knowledge that you reached your highest level of
performance. No fellow contester or commitee member can take that away
from you. Its like the guy who runs 5 KW and uses packet; he may get
the certificate to put on his wall, and brag to his friends, but deep
down inside he knows the truth about his unscrupulous ways.
After all, what is the value of a piece of wood or paper? Its really
only valueable in terms of what it represents. Scores really speak for
themselves anyway. And besides, its fairly easy to look through the
results of a contest and find the guys in your part of the country to
gauge your performance. Winning is an inward experience!
Ciao,
Mike, AD4VH (After Dinner 4 Valiums Help)
Ex KD8NS (KD8 "NO #$%")
>From Mr. Brett Graham" <bagraham at HK.Super.NET Fri Sep 29 00:14:55 1995
From: Mr. Brett Graham" <bagraham at HK.Super.NET (Mr. Brett Graham)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 07:14:55 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: VS6BG CQ WW RTTY score
Message-ID: <199509282314.HAA16550 at is1.hk.super.net>
Category: single-op all-band hi-power un-assisted
Breakdown:
BAND Qs Ss Zs Cs
80 4 0 4 4
40 26 2 6 7
20 266 34 26 45
15 137 2 20 40
10 1 0 1 1
Total: 434 38 57 97
Score: 1133 Qpts X (38 Ss + 57 Zs + 97 Cs) = _217,536_
Rig: TS-950S
2 x 3-500Z
80/40: 1/4-wave GP @ 9m
20/15/10: 2-el quad @ 14m
Comment: Propagation on 15 wasn't bad, but where was everybody? Seemed
like ZS6NW was the only one on most of the time!
73, VS6BrettGraham aka VR2BG bagraham at hk.super.net
>From Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com> Fri Sep 29 00:39:00 1995
From: Eugene Walsh <0004504465 at mcimail.com> (Eugene Walsh)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 18:39 EST
Subject: K3EST RTTY SCORE
Message-ID: <41950928233914/0004504465PK5EM at MCIMAIL.COM>
RTTY SCORE K3EST
NJ Zone 5
MULTI OP, SINGLE TX, SINGLE BAND, MULTI WATTS.
Was more serious last year; no time for it this year.
20 METERS
Q S/P DXCC ZONES
113 21 39 14
OPS: K3EST, KZ2S, N2AA
We unwrapped the RTTY box for the second time ever
late Sunday Morning. After floundering around for a time
it got hooked up correctly, and we were off.
Operations were interrupted by dinner (Mrs Able's chicken
parm & pasta), a few 6 packs of Ramrod, and serious discussions
of real important stuff.
We talked at length about how no east coast op has any
idea how bad it is from out west. We were sick about it!
N2AA
>From sm3bdz at pobox.com (Lars Harlin) Fri Sep 29 00:58:21 1995
From: sm3bdz at pobox.com (Lars Harlin) (Lars Harlin)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 00:58:21 +0100
Subject: DX-operation.2....
Message-ID: <199509282358.AAA27849 at www.itz.se>
Thanks for all the comments! Many of you says that we really cant do much=20
about the problem with LIDS. Those guys I mean are not LIDS (to me meaning:=
=20
jammers, brainless people, deliberatly QRM`ers etc.)they are DX=B4ers!! But=
=20
with bad behavior.
I agree that this media is far from enough to spread the word, but I=B4d=
like=20
to propose a more positive attitude that we CAN do something about it!
I think, that if we want to "reach out" we have to start in our own=
environment.
Talk to your fellow ham, bring the matter up on the local radioclub, bring=
=20
it to your country-organisation (SSA, ARRL, etc.) AND talk directly to those=
=20
"bad operators". I=B4m sure we all have someone in our own country or=
district=20
who raises our bloodpressure! Pick on them! Guess it=B4s no meaning beeing=
too=20
sensitive, those guys are NOT!=20
I think this is a very important matter for the future of our fantastic=
hobby.
73=B4s de Lars (sm3bdz at pobox.com)=20
>From floydjr at nr.infi.net (jim floyd) Fri Sep 29 01:46:51 1995
From: floydjr at nr.infi.net (jim floyd) (jim floyd)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:46:51 -0400
Subject: UPDATE IV
Message-ID: <199509290046.UAA24193 at larry.infi.net>
CQWW RTTY CLAIMED SCORES 1995
Compiled by
WA4ZXA
---------------------------------------------------------------------
OPERATOR CLASS SCORE QSO's PTS QTH DX ZONES
---------------------------------------------------------------------
SINGLE OP/HP ALL BAND
K1NG 1,347,367 1381 2711 181 224 92
S56A 1,254,800 1228 3137 322 78
VY2SS 1,047,510 1257 ? 123 159 57
N4CC 710,940 957 1734 169 157 84
WE9V 703,131 1066 1937 159 139 65
K2PS 621,750 805 1658 142 164 69
NA4M 430,810 757 1286 147 122 66
WA3WJD 314,534 541 986 133 125 61
W3GG 302,872 472 1048 94 133 62
W7LZP 256,563 682 983 147 67 47
VS6BG 217,536 434 1133 38 57 97
NA2M (HP or LP) 148,560 376 619 106 86 48
JH7QXJ 143,500 313 875 37 81 46
WA6SDM 140,499 426 603 124 61 48
SINGLE OP/LP ALL BAND
4X6ZK 804,528 938 2718 41 194 61
AK5KD 639,846 1112 1734 180 122 67
4X0A 487,012 758 2234 40 131 47
KA4RRU 437,987 754 1373 125 134 60
KA1SIE 399,434 754 1442 119 112 46
WA4ZXA 285,948 512 1014 110 115 57
WB2HMF 127,160 313 578 96 80 44
KF2OG 95,634 317 506 92 61 36
N7UJJ 93,696 370 488 110 42 40
WA5JWU 45,474 167 286 73 50 36
N2VYU 1,548 30 43 18 9 9
SINGLE OP/ASSISTED
NO2T 498,624 729 1484 121 149 66
V31JU (UN or ASST) 421,852 734 1604 133 86 44
JR5JAQ 355,266 517 1462 46 132 65
N2OL 307,840 634 ? 296
N2FF 293,601 525 1023 114 114 59
OH2LU 158,388 338 788 29 125 47
SINGLE OP/SINGLE BAND
10 Meters
15 Meters
N4SR 21,084 117 251 21 41 22
20 Meters
N1OAZ 114,600 426 955 41 63 16
VE7OR 92,575 349 805 45 45 25
VE6WQ 83,625 299 669 44 55 26
JR2BNF/1 31,920 121 336 21 48 26
K3EST ? 113 ? 21 39 14
40 Meters
K1IU 185,277 674 1227 54 71 26
ZS6EZ 87,000 275 ? 39 50 20
W2UP 83,760 380 698 49 50 21
WF5E 53,954 352 509 50 35 21
KN6DV 46,552 363 506 51 22 19
80 Meters
MULTI SINGLE/HP
OT5T 1,983,016 1551 4166 248 142 86
VP5C 1,845,152 1767 4232 185 182 69
WU3V 1,388,862 1337 ? ? ? ?
DF7RX 1,325,280 1164 3012 232 122 86
K2TW 868,436 1089 136 188 74
WA4QVD 738,045 1153 ? ? ? ?
N9ITX/7 545,490 1066 1653 158 109 63
VK9LZ 517,000 784 2219 79 91 63
N9ENA 199,045 ? ? ? ? ?
MULTI SINGLE/LP
AA5AU 630,400 929 1600 166 151 77
K8UNP 562,872 803 1497 147 158 71
KF4KL 432,928 625 1304 132 138 62
T99MT 287,523 553 1389 65 107 35
MULTI OP/MULTI
W3LPL 2,154,387 2045 3953 214 237 94
I am sorry about the typo with K1NG call. It was nothing but a typo
and I apologize for it.
When you see a number between the QTH and the DX column it means that
the station added those two together and sent it to me. If they send
me a split of them I will update it.
Don't forget that info beside your call like this (UN or ASST) means
that you never sent which you were. If I do not know then I put you
in the higher one. Let me know if I have anyone in the wrong class.
73's Jim // WA4ZXA @N4ZC <> floydjr at nr.infi.net
ps: Remember if you send me your breakdown I cannot repost them on
the reflector. If you wish for everyone to see the breakdown you will
need to send them to the reflector yourself.
>From w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) Fri Sep 29 02:37:37 1995
From: w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) (Stan Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:37:37 -0700
Subject: RUFZ at Telegraphy World Championships
Message-ID: <199509290137.SAA12092 at desiree.teleport.com>
> The rules state that for the other receiving tests,
>
> "Letter and mixed text reception messages are sent at
>progressively increased speeds starting at '100 marks/minute' for letters and
>and '150 marks/minute' for figures, with competitors withdrawing as the speed
>becomes to high for them.
Language makes a huge difference in your ability to accurately remember long
sequences of letters since you remember them as words (but only if you are
very familiar with the words.) Since all really high speed (40 wpm and and
faster) code copiers copy some distance behind you must remember letter
sequences for at least a few seconds. Those of us who operate at high
speeds and do not attempt to write or type solid copy would find out that
operating at 50 wpm and actually writing or typing all of it at that speed
is much tougher than just writing down an occasional word like a name, QTH,
or contest exchange.
>Messages may be recorded by hand (using any
>symbols desired) or by typewriter. Messages copied on contestants's
>own paper must be recopied on official forms after a test."
What keeps a contestant from filling in some missing letters during the
"recopying" phase? If the text is in your native language, it would not be
too tough to see what some missing letters ought to be and fill them in.
>Also, it is not clear if the text messages are in any particular language
>or will just be random groups of characters, but all letters.
Which way it is will make a huge difference . . .
>Will be interesting to see how many compete, and how they do.
Of course I won't be there so it won't affect me. It is important that the
sponsors of this event realize how important language is so that they can
take itn into consideration. It would be a real shame to hold this event
and then have dozens of angry protests when it is over.
Stan W7NI at teleport.com
>From w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) Fri Sep 29 02:37:43 1995
From: w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) (Stan Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:37:43 -0700
Subject: Rohn Torque Bars
Message-ID: <199509290137.SAA12133 at desiree.teleport.com>
Mike KO7V wrote:
>I am not an engineer, but it seems to me that the effects of torque arms
>could be figured out mathematically. It seems like they would limit
>the twisting of the tower by giving a longer lever arm.
I am sure you are right, Mike, and I am not an engineer either. My gut
feelings about what happens with torque arms is similar to yours. As you
try to rotate a tower where a set of torque arms are attached, the tower
tries to take the guy wires around the tower too. This tightens the guys
and that is what resists the tower attempting to rotate. The main effect of
tightening the guys is to put more downward force on the tower. So I like
to think of torque arms as converting tower twisting to tighter guy wires.
Is this good or bad? This where my gut feelings fail me and I need an
engineer with a calculator and some real skill in analyzing structures.
One thing is plain: for the torque arms to do anything at all, the tower
actually has to twist some. This is not the case with the Torque Arm
Stabilizing triangle since that provides guys wires that are attached and
working at some distance from the center of the tower rotation. In that
case, a lot of the twisting is converted to guy wire tension with guys
pulling against each other rather than trying to force the tower into the
ground. This is just another gut feel observation that I would not want to
bet my life on.
Stan W7NI at teleport.com
>From kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) Fri Sep 29 03:19:19 1995
From: kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:19:19 -0400
Subject: Contest activity and scoring
Message-ID: <199509290219.WAA21029 at cais.cais.com>
>>> >>> barry <barry at w2up.wells.com> 09/27/95 02:08pm >>>
>>> Ai7b at teleport.com writes:
>>>
>>> > Right on, Bill.....not much different here in the Northwest either.
>>> > I don't think the average East coast op has a clue what its like out
>>> > West.
>>> W2UP replies:
>>> > Come on... Enough already on the geographical advantages of the
>>> > northeast. If contest scores are THAT important to you, move to the
>>> > northeast.
>>> Duh, is this meant to be a realistic suggestion? I think not. The root of
>>> the situation is contest scoring, not where we live.
>
>Really want to level the field? I doubt it, but this will do it. Give the
>winners a scoring handicap. I'm not a golfer, but don't golfers play with
>handicaps based on the scoring history? That way a mediocre golfer can play
>with a good one and have a chance of winning, right? If you are in the top
>ten, you get a 0.9 multiplier next year. If you are still in the top ten,
>you get 0.8 the following year. Pretty soon someone else will win, and
>then, they of course will get the 0.9 muliplier. If you privately want to
>know who is really the top scorer, just divide his final score by his
>handicap and magically you have his real score. This system would not care
>where you live, how much power you run, if you are married or single, if you
>have too many "uniques", if you have stacked 80 meter beams, are on packet,
>or just plain cheat. It would just redistribute the certificates sort of
>like welfare redistributes the wealth . . . :-)
>
>Stan W7NI at teleport.com
>
How do you figure that? All I have to do is not show up one year and then
blow away the competition with a great score and max handicap points...
all from the RIGHT coast!
73, Tyler
KF3P
>From James Brooks" <9v1yc at equator.lugs.po.my Fri Sep 29 03:09:58 1995
From: James Brooks" <9v1yc at equator.lugs.po.my (James Brooks)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:09:58 +0000
Subject: AP Sprint
Message-ID: <306b4769.equator at equator.lugs.po.my>
SPRINT REMINDER:
Don't forget the Asia-Pacific Sprint, this Saturday 30 Sept, 1230z-1430z,
20m & 40m CW only, exchange RST + serial#. 1 point per QSO,
mults are prefixes (WPX rules). At least 1 (or both) sides of a QSO must
be within defined Asia-Pacific region (180 degrees - Asian Pacific Rim)
to count for points. Standard Sprint QSY rule also applies.
T-shirts to overall winner, each continent and each DXCC country.
Good luck.
James 9V1YC
9V1YC at equator.lugs.po.my
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