MY RED FACE - re: a contester is born...
tad.danley at nextel.com
tad.danley at nextel.com
Tue Apr 2 09:00:10 EST 1996
Boy, is my face red!!!
Thanks to KO9Y, W7NI and AA5BT for pointing out the finer points of
Part 97 to me - I should have known better. I am sorry and it won't
happen again.
(p.s....did I say WPX and Croatia?...I meant SS and California...)
73, Tad, NZ3I
>From barry at w2up.wells.com (barry) Tue Apr 2 13:12:07 1996
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (barry) (barry)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 08:12:07 EST
Subject: Source for tubes?
Message-ID: <wieRLD1w165w at w2up.wells.com>
Looking for a source of reasonably priced tubes for my three-holer amp
(8874s). Tnx/Barry
--
Barry N. Kutner, W2UP Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)
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>From scole at abby.cyborg.bt.co.uk (STEVE COLE) Tue Apr 2 13:41:54 1996
From: scole at abby.cyborg.bt.co.uk (STEVE COLE) (STEVE COLE)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 14:41:54 +0100
Subject: POWER!
Message-ID: <9604021341.AA18421 at abby>
To: CQ-Contest at tgv.com
Subject: POWER!
Re: POWER !
Thanks to the many who sent personal replies, some mentioned calls
of Europeans who are head-and-shoulders above me in strength, the
bottom line however is the actual RESULTS at the end of the day.
Check the magazines over the last ten, twenty or more years.
CONSISTENCY counts for something you know.
For the record, I run a TH7 at about 40 feet with a 40-2CD stacked
about 10 feet higher, and an 80 sloper to the West. For CQWW I have
sometimes "borrowed" a neighbouring tree as an additional wire support.
The *LOCATION* is on a small hill with sloping ground from West thru`
North East so favouring USA and Japan.
The station, in my opinion, is well engineered within the real estate,
(or lack of it) that I have. Hard-line (ANDREW Heliax) is used on all
external feeders with quality connectors and other attention to detail.
Maybe that strategic bit between the headphones has something to do
with it too.
73, Steve GW4BLE.
>From Douglas S. Zwiebel" <104141.2660 at compuserve.com Tue Apr 2 13:49:09 1996
From: Douglas S. Zwiebel" <104141.2660 at compuserve.com (Douglas S. Zwiebel)
Date: 02 Apr 96 08:49:09 EST
Subject: S meters and qro and contesting
Message-ID: <960402134909_104141.2660_IHO80-1 at CompuServe.COM>
KR2Q: Hi John, thanks for inviting me over to watch you in action.
K1AR: Sure Doug, no problem. The contest is about to start, so just be quiet and
watch.
KR2Q: Okay, good luck.
(half an hour goes by)
KR2Q: Wow John, 217 qso's already! How can you pick those calls out so fast?
K1AR: Oh, it's simple, I watch the S meter and call the most POWERFUL one.
KR2Q: Uh....I'm so embarassed.
de Doug KR2Q
>From Micheal Ihry <mihry at topher.net> Tue Apr 2 16:23:37 1996
From: Micheal Ihry <mihry at topher.net> (Micheal Ihry)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:23:37 -0600
Subject: oops
Message-ID: <01BB207E.8CA348E0 at ppp17.topher.net>
hi all
apologies to ntcc for forgetting to put club affiliation on log. don't blame arrl as i did
forget.
need info on how to send a file with e-mail. i want to post my score for wpx and
attach sum file.
tnx
de ac5ct..mike in tx
>From Marios Nicolaou (5B4WN)" <mzyd108 at unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 2 16:57:36 1996
From: Marios Nicolaou (5B4WN)" <mzyd108 at unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (Marios Nicolaou (5B4WN))
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:57:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Connecting Cluster to CT/Log+etc thru internet??
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960402172949.14403A-100000 at granby>
Hallo there,
I was just wondering whether anybody has achieved with success
to connect packetcluster to a logging program with packetcluster support
(eg K1EA/LogPlus etc) but WITHOUT using a TNC and radio link but a MODEM and
THE NET. Why I am asking?? NOT all countries have cluster support on VHF.
A friend has suggested using 2 computers (one as the logging
computer and one acting as a "TNC" thru some sort of TCP/IP software
(JNOS?) with telneting to an ampr.org server. Has anybody done something
like this before? If so could you give me some details?
I am aware of OH2BUA WEBcluster page but that will require a
separate http browser but I cannot think of a way of feeding the DX spots to
the logging program automatically.
Please reply directly to me, and I can summarise for the
reflector (if there is interest).
BEST 73s Marios (5B4WN/G0WWW)
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>From Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> Tue Apr 2 17:26:01 1996
From: Jim Reid <jreid at aloha.net> (Jim Reid)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 07:26:01 -1000
Subject: CW will go next
Message-ID: <1.5.4b12.32.19960402172601.006a899c at aloha.net>
At 01:39 4/2/96 -0800, Stan Griffiths wrote:
" There has to be another way . . . or you can do what the FCC does . .
>. find out what the violations are and make that activity legal. Consider
>these examples:
>
>1. CBers were not signing their calls. FCC eliminated callsigns.
>
>2. CBers not getting proper licenses. FCC eliminated licenses for CB.
>
>3. Some hams run excessive power. FCC raised the power limit from 1 KW in
>to 1500 watts out.
>
>4. Now some hams run 5 or 10 KW. What do you think the FCC is likely to do
>about it . . . ?
>
>If someone violates a rule, eliminate it. Soon there will be no violations
>(and no rules) and I am not convinced we would be worse off than we are now.
>
>Stan w7ni at teleport.com
About the year 2005 or so, CW as a test for an amateur license will probably
be gone, world wide, if things go as they might at WARC 99. Only hope is
CW tests will be replaced by some technical tests with real teeth to act as
a way to keep our bands from becoming as did the CB bands, completely lawless
and world wide, as in Indonesia now.
Jim, AH6NB
jreid at aloha.net
>From Bob Evans" <bob_evans at maca.sarnoff.com Tue Apr 2 12:52:58 1996
From: Bob Evans" <bob_evans at maca.sarnoff.com (Bob Evans)
Date: 2 Apr 1996 12:52:58 U
Subject: S Units
Message-ID: <n1383672705.6572 at maca.sarnoff.com>
RE>S Units 4/2/96
Each S unit is doubling of the detected voltage. In a receiver, the meter is
driven
from the Automatic Gain Control system. This system has a detector (or
detectors)
that sample the signal level. The voltage is amplified and used to control
the gain in
stages ahead of the detector ( the RF & IF ). The voltage is also used to
drive the
meter marked S-units. Since, the relationship between this Vagc and actual
signal
levels is not simple (due mostlyto non-linearity in control voltage versus
gain),
the meter scale & amp must be calibrated. The calibration is usually accurate
at
only one or two points on its scale. Some modern receivers carefully derive
the meter drive from the Vagc by a more complex scheme such a logarithmic
amp or even a digital look-up table to offer a better approximation. The
detector,
though, is subject to signals other than just the desired. Further, the
desired is not
a steady sinusoidal waveform. The meter is mostly a useful guage to see how
the
receiver is reacting as it processes signals with its automatic gain controls.
If you can shut off the AGC system and are receiving a steady tone, you can
put an AC volt meter on the speaker. You might have to reduce the RF gain
manually
and introduce attenuation so as to be in a region of low distortion of the
audio.
Once, this is set up, a doubling of voltage is a change of one S-unit. Which
is a
four times change in power received. A 3db change in voltage is a 6db change
in power. This simply because, power changes as the square of the voltage.
TTFN.
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Date: 4/2/96 12:45 AM
To: Bob Evans
From: W8JITom at aol.com
Hi Bill,
In a message dated 96-04-01 13:07:32 EST, you write:
>
>I beg to differ. I believe that S-meter circuits are calibrated in terms
>of VOLTAGE rather than power. That would make the difference between 1.5KW
>and 5KW equal to 10.45dB(V) or 1.74 S-units.
That's a common misconception Bill. Beg all you want, one dB of voltage
change is 1 dB of power change, look at the formulas! A 3 dB pad provides a 3
dB voltage, current and power loss.
S meters show larger than expected increases because 6 dB is NOT an S unit.
That figure never was an industry wide standard, and certainly isn't today.
Almost every rig is 3 to four dB per S unit when properly aligned. And even
the dB end of their scales are usually wrong.
Remember three dB is three dB, with either voltage, current or power. It's
one of those rules that work funny but save headaches.
73 Tom
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