90% of... This reflector needs a change.

K7LXC at aol.com K7LXC at aol.com
Wed Apr 10 03:47:31 EDT 1996


In a message dated 96-04-09 15:40:37 EDT, you write:

>>The solution to this problem is very simple and requires a little work.  
>>We change this reflector to be MODERATED.  A message sent to a moderated 
>>reflector first gets sent to a moderator.  The moderator then reads the 
>>message and approves it or does nothing in which case it gets trashed.

    I don't know about you but I've always wanted a BIG BROTHER to watch over
me (and my contest reflector traffic).

73,    Steve    K7LXC


>From Tom Francis <tomf at neca.com>  Wed Apr 10 12:22:20 1996
From: Tom Francis <tomf at neca.com> (Tom Francis)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 07:22:20 -0400
Subject: censorship
Message-ID: <199604101122.HAA16046 at orion.neca.com>

At 07:07 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I am astounded that a proposal to censor input to this source of information
>has been found by some to be needed.  Contributors need to censor themselves
>and not pass that  "responsibility" on to someone else.  I thank the people
>responsible for making this reflector possible and they certainly  should
>not be "given" the job of cleaning up junk mail for us.  
>
>73 
>
>Ray, WQ7R
>
>       Ray is right - let's face it, some of the information
        is less than erudite and discussions on some subjects
        can be tedious, but that's the price you pay in a free
        society for open and uncensored communications - you
        can tell within a sentence or two if the message is
        something you want to read, censor the reflector on
        your own..

        My $.02 - At the bottom of the cycle, I'm rebuilding
        my '85 Monte Carlo SS and having a ball...

        See y'all in the pileups...

        73

        Tom, NM1Q (tomf at neca.com)
>


>From Robert Werner, Jr." <rwerner at usit.net  Wed Apr 10 13:33:28 1996
From: Robert Werner, Jr." <rwerner at usit.net (Robert Werner, Jr.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:33:28 -0400
Subject: Yet another 599 report
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960410083322.232f5e00 at usit.net>

I am in agreement with doing away with signal reports during contests also.
The SS report is much more useful.  Many times I have been asked or heard
the following:
Your 59...  What's your call?  What's my report?  After giving report a 2nd
time...
Your 59...  What's your call?  What's my report?  What's your state?  (Or
whatever..)
It just seems that if I was really 59 like they say, my report would be
heard the first time, every time.  Try giving an actual signal report during
a contest and listen to the silence.  
I started giving real sig reports during ARRL DX contest, what fun that was!  

I really enjoy contesting (missed my favorite the WPX contest this year).
It just seems that an obiligatory 59 report doesn't help me.
PS>  My thanks go to the ONE ham that stopped by while I was calling CQ Test
during ARRL to tell me I was over modulating.  This was helpful and
increased my rate the next hour.

See you on the bands!
Bob Werner
rwerner at utk.edu
rwerner at usit.net
Amateur:  KC4URW at N4QEA.#METN.TN.USA.NA


>From Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com>  Wed Apr 10 14:16:06 1996
From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com> (Tony Brock-Fisher)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:16:06 -0400
Subject: Better Quads??
Message-ID: <9604101316.AA01412 at hp-and2.an.hp.com>



Well, we had heavy wet snow in New England last night, for the second
time in two days. This time, my 2-element quad lost it's life to the
antenna demons, snapping two spreaders.

Yes, I know quads suck in winter weather. I've had numerous problems
with this one all winter with spreader hubs and the boom twisting
in the wind. But I managed to get it to last almost all the way
through one contest season, long enough to discover that it is
a terrific multiplier antenna in small multi-ops. Using an antenna
switch at the feedpoint means it acts like monobanders as far as
interstation interference goes...

So rather than cut it down and put the A4 back up, I'd like to
find out if anyone out there can give an opinion on which 2-element
triband quad has the most sturdy construction. The one that died is
a Cubex. If there is another manufacturer out there that is more
durable, I'd like to consider their product.

Please don't reply with messages about how carppy quads are in the 
winter. I already know that. And don't bother replying if you
just 'Had a Brand X and it was Great'. I'm looking for responses
from people who actually have owned more than one brand, and can
make a real comparison on sturdiness. No freudian or crap replies
either! TFTB!  (Thanks for the bandwidth).

-Tony, K1KP, fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com

>From Tyler Barnett <tbarnett at lexmark.com>  Wed Apr 10 14:32:36 1996
From: Tyler Barnett <tbarnett at lexmark.com> (Tyler Barnett)
Date: 10 Apr 96  9:32:36 EDT
Subject: general class code test
Message-ID: <199604101329.AA19000 at interlock.lexmark.com>

Paul,
Approach the test with calm.   You must think you are going to pass it.  
Visualize walking out of the exam with your code certificate after a code 
practice session.

It's not that hard because it's now a comprehensive test.  You answer a 
multiple-choice test based on what you copy.  So copy every letter you can, and 
don't get flustered when you miss some letters.  Don't guess on what you heard, 
write down WHAT you heard.  Chances are you can "read between the lines" and 
guess what was sent when your mind went blank for a bit.  

Pick the most comfortable chair and headphones you can during the code test.  
Insist the VE's do not play the code tape from the speaker of the recorder.  
Bring your own headphones if possible.  Having the world to yourself with your 
own headphones is worth 5wpm alone.  

Finally, the trick I used to pass the Extra in 1977 was to write down the 
letter E as a single dot.
At 20wpm, the word "been" or something like it went by so fast, I couldn't 
print the E's fast enough.
I instructed the civil-service lady to stop me after 4 of the 5 minutes, and 
then I turned all the dots into E's. 

Tyler N4TY

>From Walt Kornienko <k2wk at crystal.palace.net>  Wed Apr 10 15:22:31 1996
From: Walt Kornienko <k2wk at crystal.palace.net> (Walt Kornienko)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:22:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 40 mtr QRM
Message-ID: <199604101422.KAA25285 at crystal.palace.net>


K4VUD wrote:

>The 4U1UN 14.268 net will activate for any other Liberian emergency 
>traffic again tomorrow (April 10 USA time).  Listening/relay help and a 
>clear freq. will be appreciated.

Steve, WF3T wrote:
>> 
>> For those others interested in finding the source of the 40 mtr QRM:
>> 
>> Caught an S7 blast early this evening that stuck around long enough to run
>> the rotor around twice. From EPA, it's coming from NE. That's as good as I
>> can get with only a 2 el. High cutoff this time was 7.023, by time I got
>> down to about 6.900 it abruptly dissappeared, but obviously it's VERY wideband. 

Listening on 14.268 this morning I discovered the pulse type
QRM centered on the 4U1UN/EL emergency frequency.  The QRM appears
to be coming from southern Europe, about 60 degrees in NJ.
One can only speculate if there is a connection between the appearance
of this QRM on the EL emergency frequency and the turmoil in Liberia.

*****************************************************************
*                                                               *
*              73 de Walt Kornienko - K2WK (FRC)                *
*        k2wk at crystal.palace.net  or  K2WK at N2ERH.NJ.NOAM        *
*                                                               *
*****************************************************************

>From DFREY at maila.harris.com (DFREY)  Wed Apr 10 14:04:36 1996
From: DFREY at maila.harris.com (DFREY) (DFREY)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:04:36 -0400
Subject: Quieting amplifiers
Message-ID: <16bc6e70 at maila.harris.com>

     >From: "Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr at k1vr.jjm.com>
     >Subject:   Re: AL1200/1500 blower noise
     
     >Here's a quick and dirty way to quiet an AL-1200, all based
     >on the principle that "sound doesn't like to turn corners."
     
     Bzzzzzt!
     
     Air doesn't like to turn corners either.   While what Fred sugests 
     might well reduce the air system noise, vigorous application of this 
     solution reduces the air flow to the tube by increasing the back 
     presssure and intake resistance.  It is not a good idea to restrict 
     the air flow through an amplifier unless you have the facilities to 
     measure the results against the tube manufacturer's air flow 
     requirements.  No amplifier I ever saw failed due to excessive noise.
     
     Reducing the mechanical noise through the use of vibration damping as 
     he suggests is very worthwhile.
     
     Dick,  K4XU

>From sawyers" <sawyers at cacd.rockwell.com  Wed Apr 10 16:38:43 1996
From: sawyers" <sawyers at cacd.rockwell.com (sawyers)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 09:38:43 cst
Subject: Re]: 90% of... This reflector needs a change.
Message-ID: <9603108291.AA829147198 at ccmgw1.cacd.rockwell.com>


I moderate this net at my end with the liberal use of the Delete key on certain 
threads. I would not appreciate any censorship.

I appreciate the effort that everyone puts into the comments and I really 
appreciate the discipline that has been applied by everyone in keeping the 
subject line accurate so my moderation method has been so successful.

I also appreciate the breadth and depth of discussions here and the fact 
that Trey has continued to provide the forum for us. 

If I might make one suggestion - please do not take threads off line 
because they are too technical for the general audience (including me). 
There can never be too much information.

I remember as a youngster listening to my father and his friends discussing 
engines and cars and and driving techniques and welding and design (they 
were into racing). I did not understand everything I heard at the time, but 
gained enough knowledge to ask questions, learned how to debate in a 
civilized manner, and got to learn about things that never would have 
occurred to me to ask about. It fostered in me an insatiable inquisitive 
nature that this forum continues feed.

Thank you for reading this.

de n0yvy steve


>From Jimmy R. Floyd" <floydjr at Interpath.com  Wed Apr 10 13:29:28 1996
From: Jimmy R. Floyd" <floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:29:28 -0300
Subject: CQ WPX Contest 96 Scores VI
Message-ID: <199604101438.KAA25920 at mail-hub.interpath.net>

CQ WPX CONTEST 96
RAW SCORES

Complied by
WA4ZXA
Email: floydjr at interpath.com

Date Posted: 04/10/96
!!!!!NEXT POSTING WILL BE THE FINAL POSTING!!!!


CALL               HRS           SCORE      QSO'S      PTS     PREFIXES
__________________________________________________________________________

QRP

N1AFC                          369,664       416                 304
KA1CZF                         135,000       215                 196
KV8S                            77,121       200       451       171
VE7CQK                          75,504       200       528       143


SO/HP/AB

S50A                         8,211,376      2950      8984       914
OT6T  (RA3AUU)               7,347,655      2800      8155       901
S58AB                        4,501,896      2070      5908       762
F6FGZ                        3,764,922      1794      5273       714
OH6KIT                       2,751,320      1882                 715
ZL6CC                        2,008,190      1380      4090       491
HB9HFN                         210,936       367       799       264

WR6R/WH7                    11,267,375      3884     13825       815
VD3EJ                        9,640,752      3151                 912
KQ2M  (@KY3N)                5,400,000      2202                 818
KC1XX  (AA1ND)               5,180,000      2301                 820
KM9P                         5,027,022      2402                 837
K3ZO                         4,974,315      2173      6257       795
VO1MP                        3,408,480      1682                 648
K5ZD                21       3,340,620      1592      4986       670
CG3CRC                       3,273,452      1683                 644
KW8N                         3,200,000      1736                 738
KI4HN  (@AA4NC)              3,060,492      1673      4181       732
K7RI  (AA7FT)                2,983,572      1824      4167       716
WZ4F                         2,928,101      1861                 737
VE7IN               30       2,324,080      1295      4180       556
KA4RRU                       2,331,146      1595      3359       694


SO/LP/AB

DL0IU  (DL2OBF)                949,160       981      1945       488
S50U                           172,200       377       700       246
XE2AC                            9,540        48       212        45 

K1HTV               31       1,325,184       985      2436       544
WS1A                         1,046,657       782                 479
NY5B                           674,422       931      1438       469
WA4ZXA              36         671,841       669      1503       447
KJ6HO               18         483,912       679      1222       396
NZ5O                           477,500       655                 382
AE6Y                           341,376       675                 381
VD6EL                          167,686       278                 196
KS4XG               16         113,528       242       617       184
N3BDA               13          94,864       211                 154
VC3JFF                          34,866       140                 117
AL7PT/NK8                       20,374       140       167       122


SO/UNLIMITED

S59AA                        1,248,628      1023      2308       541
S56A                           572,544       620      1491       384

WA0PUJ                       2,108,981      1366                 707
KF8UM                        1,548,976      1047                 572
K3SW/4              18         642,470       617                 410
K3IXD                          291,264       407                 296
WB4VIM                          86,846       206       502       173


SINGLE BAND

160M
AC4NJ               11          32,606       184       238       137

80M
DH4JQ                           10,206        81       162        63

VC3MG                          871,320       767                 318
VE2JTX                          84,480       227                 132

40M
ZY2HT  HP           15         801,000       470                 315
OI3MFP              22         100,036       254                 178

CY7A  HP (VE7SV)             5,991,500      2099                 575
VD7NTT                       4,400,000      1660                 546
KK6XN  (@K6NA)               1,014,024       757      3036       334

W3GH                           775,390       765      2014       385
WM2V                20         286,896       452      1112       258
KW4T                           108,000       191                 164
WA5JWU              12           8,320        42       208        40

20M
OK1RI                        4,710,882      2297                 822
HA1AG  HP                    1,963,192      1445      3187       616 
OI3NXW AS           19         750,000       972                 466
OH3NLP LP           18         152,904       347                 276

K5UA HP (@W5WMU)    30       1,287,900      1315      2025       636
VE7NKI                       1,280,000      1110                 525
N4MO  LP                       637,000       638                 406
NI8L  HP             8         614,880       670      1464       420
N4YGY  LP                      572,390       611      1295       442

15M
ZS6BRH                         222,914       334       982       227
S50D                           220,980       404       870       254
OI3LQK              15          32,725       157                 119
S59D  QRP                       26,319       108       283        93

N6MU  (@N6NB)                  266,760       554                 342
N4BP                21         156,123       409       627       249
WA7BNM  LP          19         134,096       479       493       272
W5ASP               15          98,800       303                 190
VE1RAA                          76,867       205                 139
KY2P/4                          48,000       209                 147

10M
ZW2WAL  QRP         21          66,232       225                 136

WB4HFL              20           6,580        65       188        35
K2YJL/M                            152         9                   8


MULTI/SINGLE

ZX0F                        24,096,061      6133     22583      1067
IR4T                        10,234,755      3549     10245       999 
TM1C                        10,085,306      3671                 946
XR8S                         7,675,670      2675      9418       815
GX0WPX                       4,434,324      
YM3DL                        3,539,740      2066      7180       493
DF0RG                          277,856       487       914       304

VE6SV                        6,033,529      2708      7349       821
VC3SK                        5,970,685      2372      7417       805
KI1G  (@K1NG)                5,800,000      2316                 890
WE9V  (@KS9K)                5,401,076      2428      5858       922
CY2A  (@VE2ZP)               5,125,335      2124                 761
VD9WH                        4,322,880      2012                 711
VE3RM                        4,283,300      1901      5908       725
CH6FI                        3,886,212      2104      5988       649
KT8X                         3,881,241      2024                 819
VS6WO                        3,740,730      2741      5685       658
NE8T  (@K8CC)                3,733,248      1932                 768
W5KFT                        3,661,928      2554      4612       794
K1KP                         3,175,000      1695                 735
WU7Q                         3,100,902      1766                 714
II2K                         2,823,156      1692      3954       714
KC7V                         2,629,989      1900      3699       711
KF9PL                        2,100,000      1510                 680
NC0P                         2,065,000      1456                 688
KQ4HC                        2,049,495      1400                 655
KZ6X                         2,040,108      1801      3192       652
K3MD                         1,843,776      1102      3168       582
KB3TS/NH6                    1,802,274      1224      4322       417
VE6AO                        1,679,842      1330                 481
NJ4F                46       1,571,216      1050      2676       566      
KI7WX                        1,536,842      1380                 614
K5XI                         1,500,000      1308                 609
WA3WJD                         660,744       656      1596       414
7J7ABC                         543,312       685                 343
AC5CT                          401,080
KC4ZV               18         340,032       521                 336
W8PZS                3             550        27        22        25



MULTI/MULTI

KP4XS                       19,611,728      6168                1084
PA6WPX                      10,658,438      4387     10429      1022

WZ1R  (@KY1H)               11,200,000      3911                1062
WT1S  (@K1MNS)              10,680,000      3640                1033
WM2C  (@N6RO)                8,958,978      3861      9342       959
VD6JY                        7,919,121      3089      9219       859 
VD5RI                        3,816,919      2411                 631
NE9U  (@W0AIH)               2,700,000      1850                 740


ROOKIE

OI6KZP  (OH6KZP)    27         526,162       772                 413
8P6CV                          124,387       245       719       173

KG8PE               28         312,600       415                 300


TS

S59A                         4,597,645      2137      5441       845
OH3MMH              31         672,243       821                 429

K4VVD               26       1,779,657      1452      2981       597    
N5OKR               30       1,386,185       931                 537
KG6LF               23       1,002,600      1338      1671       600 
N1CC                14         624,400       645      1561       400
WA6KUI              36         501,790       531                 361
KF9YH               16         190,575       308       825       231
AA8SM                6          24,926       115       242       103


BR

__________________________________________________________________________

OP LIST

MULTI SINGLE
KI7WX      KI7WX,N5CT,K6XO @K6XO
WA3WJD     WA3WJD,AA3HA
7J7ABC     7J7ABC (AB7IT), 7J7ABV (NB9T)
KQ4HC      KO4EW,KQ4HC
AC5CT      AC5CT,N3BUO
NE8T       NE8T,N8CXX,N8BTU,AA8UG,AA8UH,K8CC
VE3RM      VE3WRL,VE3WIB,VE3RM
VC3SK      VA3SK,VA3WTO
CH6FI      VE6AQ,VE6LB,VE6PY,VE6NA
II2K       ISKHM,I2UPG,IK2ZJJ,IK2SGF,I2GXS
VE6SV      VE6SV,VE6WQ,VO1CV
WE9V       WE9V,KS9K,N0BSH,WX9E
KT8X       KT8X,AA8AV,K8MJZ,KF8QE,KF8DF,KG8CO,NU8Z,AA8FE,KB8ECG,AA8U
F6CTT      F6ARC,F5MZM,F6FVY,G0JFX
GX0WPX     G30ZF,G4DQW,G4JVG,G0SWG,S50K,5B4WN
KZ6X       KZ6X,N6KI,KM6SN,KF6BL,WB6NBU,N6UZH,KM6XA
WU7Q       W6REC
NC0P       NC0P,WA0ETC,WD0GVY,WA0FLS,WO0V
XR8S       XQ8ABF,CE8SFG
DF0RG      DG2ABP,DG6OBX,DL4OCL,DL6OBX,KF4HQI,KF4HQJ
YM3DL      DL3FDU,DL4VBP,DL8OBC
IR4T       I4UFH,I4JMY,I4YSS,IK4IEE,IK2QEI,IK2SGC
8ZX0F       PY5GA,PY5EG,N5FA,PY5CC,PY0FF,PY5GU,PU5OMS
VS6WO      9V1YC,VS6WO,VR2GO
KB3TS/NH6  KB3TS,N3KEG
NJ4F       K7SV,N4YKD,N4GUS,KP4ZX,NJ4F


MULTI MULTI
WT1S       WT1S,NX1H,K1FWE
WZ1R       WZ1R,NE1V,KM1P,AA1AA,KE6BER,KY1H,NJ1F,WM1K,WR2I,WA1ZAM
VD5RI      VE5FD,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6BBP,VE6BDP,VE6EZ,VE6SYM,VE7AV
NE9U       NE9U,N9ISN,W0AIH,K0TG,N0AXL
WM2C       WM2C,N6RO,K3EST,N4TQO,N6IP
VD6JY      VE6JY,VE6FR,VE6SLV,VE6EX,VE6LDX,VE6DGG,VE6LCB,VE6BF,VE6NWG,
           VE6JAG,VE5MX
KP4XS      KP4XS,KF3P,S55OO,AA6KX,K3JT,ND3F,WD8ISK
PA6WPX     PA3BBP,PA3BUD,PA3BWD,PA3DMH,PA3ERC,PA3EWP,PA3FQA,PA3GXF,
           PB0AIC,UT4UZ

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THESE SCORES ARE NOT OFFICIAL!!!   I CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LOGS!!!!!
PLEASE SEND ALL YOUR LOGS TO THE ADDRESS IN CQ MAGAZINE!!

PLEASE READ THIS!! I cannot get your scores if you send them as an 
attached file to your mail. It takes me over 5 minutes just to do one 
score that way. If you do not have the time to type your score into the
text your email, I do not have the time to post it. I have stated this
every contest for over a year and people keep doing it. Also scores that
are sent in without being added up will not be posted. It is a lot easier
for you to add one score up than for me to do a 100. 

The address for the 3830 reflector is 3830 at akorn.net!! Maybe someone can
post on here how to subscibe to it. I am not sure and do not want to put
out any bad information.

Also as I stated in my post before the contest, I cannot do attached 
files. You need to send it in the form of email. Also please state your
full class on it, not just Single OP. If you do you go into the unlimited
class. 

Before everyone starts flaming me about where there scores are, I would 
like to explain. I received a list off 3830 from WZ1R. It only gave me 
classes for people as SO. I know some should be unlimited. If you would
just drop me a note I will be glad to move them.

73's Jim
 
           ********************************************************** 
           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
           *                                                        *
           * Amateur Call:              >> WA4ZXA <<                *
           * Packet Node:               >> N4ZC <<                  *
           * Internet Address: **NEW**  >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
           **********************************************************


>From jdcolson at aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Jack D.Colson)  Wed Apr 10 16:00:20 1996
From: jdcolson at aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Jack D.Colson) (Jack D.Colson)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:00:20 -0400
Subject: 40 mtr QRM
Message-ID: <9604101500.AA10945 at aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>

I have had a similiar interference - it hnags around the low end of 40 as
well as 80 and 20 CW.  I found it to be related to the cable TV in the area.
I have also found that if i transmit a single dash (on most occassions) it will
go away!

Just for your info!

W3TMZ

>From PAT DOYLE <DOYLEPS at LAKEHURST.NAVY.MIL>  Wed Apr 10 16:26:31 1996
From: PAT DOYLE <DOYLEPS at LAKEHURST.NAVY.MIL> (PAT DOYLE)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:26:31 -0400
Subject: 90% of... This reflector needs a change. -Reply
Message-ID: <s16b9b36.085 at LAKEHURST.NAVY.MIL>

I disagree with KM9P.  What this reflector needs is
restraint on the part of the participants regarding
non-contest topic threads.  (Of course, this thread would
come under the non-contest topic...)  Open discussion
should be open, not censored.  

Besides, who in their right mind would agree to be
moderator of 50+ messages per day?  

KA2GSL

>>> Bill Fisher  KM9P <km9p at akorn.net> 04/09/96
09:04am >>>


>PLEASE READ THIS!
-----------------

>The solution to this problem is very simple and requires a
little work.   We change this reflector to be
MODERATED.

Etc...






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