Contest Free Zones

K7LXC at K7LXC at
Fri Apr 12 19:15:47 EDT 1996

In a message dated 96-04-12 17:25:31 EDT, you write:

>>In real life, however, it is analogous to the organizers of the
>>Boston Marathon saying "We are running our race once a month on most
>>of the main streets, and the rest of you folks will just have to
>>take some back streets, or change your mode of travel on those
>>weekends." How long would it be before the citizens of Boston would
>>convince the city council to outlaw marathons?
>I don't see the similarity. Boston streets are primarily used for
>automotive traffic, not running.

Bill --

     As far as the above statement, they DO CLOSE lots of roads including 26
miles of race course and for blocks around the start and finish lines.  The
citizens of Boston EMBRACE the marathon and all the excitement and prestige
that it brings to their city. IMHO it was not a very good analogy to use.
 Even if it was once a month, at least everyone would know about it and can
plan ahead -- contesters DO!

           I agree with your reasoning.   I don't hear non-contesters say
"excuse me" when they land on a busy contest frequency.  

73,   Steve    K7LXC

>From John R. Moore" <jrmoore at  Fri Apr 12 23:57:51 1996
From: John R. Moore" <jrmoore at (John R. Moore)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:57:51 -0400
Subject: :New Software for Amateur Radio Callbook
References: <Chameleon.960412130009.k4sb at>
Message-ID: <316EDFEF.7B4E at>

k4sb at wrote:
> Since when has this reflector turned into an advertising page? If you have a good product,
> take it elsewhere, such as QST, CQ, or others.
> It doesn't belong here!
> 73,
> EdYou might think about getting a life, I personally was interested in the software and 
that is the reason I subscribe is to get information.

John W5HUQ

>From Trey Garlough <TREY at>  Sat Apr 13 01:47:30 1996
From: Trey Garlough <TREY at> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: K2AA on the air this weekend
Message-ID: <829356450.762872.TREY at>

> Subject: K2AA on the air this weekend
> The South Jersey Radio Association (SJRA) will be
> active this weekend (1400z April 13 through 2359z
> April 14, 1996) operating Special Event station
> K2AA/80, in honor of W2EA, who passed away last
> year.  A special certificate will be issued for
> all QSOs with K2AA/80 this weekend.  See the
> Special Events pages of QST, April 1996, for full
> details.

Since this message is not contest related, I think a better
place to make this type of annoucement would be in a general
purpose amateur radio group, like

It's clear the CQ-Contest mailing list has lost a bit of its
focus lately.  I would like to request that everyone take a 
little time before posting messages to CQ-Contest and consider
whether the thread is really germaine to contesting.

--Trey, WN4KKN/6

>From Trey Garlough <TREY at>  Sat Apr 13 01:55:59 1996
From: Trey Garlough <TREY at> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: N8DO - is you there?
Message-ID: <829356959.119872.TREY at>

> Denny --
>      I don't have your e-mail address.  Could you please send it to me as I
> have a couple of things I want to bounce off of you.  Tnx.
>     Yes, this is  a CRAP message (Contesting Radio Amateur Person).

This is another type of message that is inappropriate for CQ-Contest.
There are a varity of ways to get this type of information.  WB5VZL
(geoiii at keeps a fairly up-to-date contester "white pages"
listing.  You can send him mail to inquire about the email address
of a given contester.  Also, I believe KM9P has taken this list and
put it on his web page (, I believe), and you
can query it by name or callsign or address or whatever.  Furthermore,
subscribers of cq-contest can send a message to cq-contest-request
that says REVIEW and get a list of subscribers.

My apologies for not getting this information out more regularly, but
I have been meaning to update the FAQ for a while and I have never 
gotten around to it.  Anyhow, please refrain from posting these sorts
of "does anyone have the email address for..." type messages.

And my apoligies to K7LXC for selecting his posting for my message.
He's just "lucky" I guess.  :-)  But Steve hasn't been reading 
CQ-Contest long enough to know about how to find this info.  (Sorry

--Trey, WN4KKN/6

>From Trey Garlough <TREY at>  Sat Apr 13 01:57:35 1996
From: Trey Garlough <TREY at> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: :New Software for Amateur Radio Callbook
Message-ID: <829357055.999872.TREY at>

> Since when has this reflector turned into an advertising page? If you
> have a good product, take it elsewhere, such as QST, CQ, or others. 

> It doesn't belong here! 

This is absolutely correct, and is outlined in the FAQ, which I will
be sending out in the next week or so.

--Trey, WN4KKN/6

>From Steven Nace KN5H <steven at>  Sat Apr 13 02:03:56 1996
From: Steven Nace KN5H <steven at> (Steven Nace KN5H)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 19:03:56 -0600
Subject: GridLoc or Golf - Thats the question.
Message-ID: <01035691000287 at>

WARNING: K1ZX: This is a CRAP message. DO NOT READ.

The GridLoc contest starts tomorrow morning. I have not seen the normal
pre-contest advertising. I did see the rules and a pep talk by the sponsers,
but that is all.

So, do I get up at 5 AM local, feed the horses, drive over to the station
(K7UP's - note: wake him and his wife up, get her madder at me (another
story))in time for a 6 AM local start-of-contest time *OR* do I go meet my
buds (yes I have some) for our 7:24 AM local, impossible to get, wish I was
at the Masters, wish I could putt, drive, chip, get out of the sand, play 18
in 4 hours, and then visit the 19th hole to drink beer TEE time?

Summary, as usual, if interest exists.

de Hose  KN5H

>From Del Seay <seay at>  Sat Apr 13 01:07:29 1996
From: Del Seay <seay at> (Del Seay)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:07:29 -0700
Subject: Pointy tops on Rohn 25
References: <199604122127.RAA12444 at>
Message-ID: <316EF041.BA4 at>

robrk at wrote:
> Rohn makes one for the pointy top......Might use smaller mast than you
> want....The rotor
> shelf might be the better idea...If you ever go for more tower, get the flat
> top
> and be able to use the same bearing............

I just got my new commercial Rohn book, and guess what? They
make an adapter for regular 45G sections to make them a top
section with thrust bearing! It bolts into place on a std 45G
10' section,comes complete with guy hooks. I suspect they will soon
be adding the same for Rohn 25G. They also make a 90 degree
25G section in case you wanna really scare your neighbors!  
de KL7HF

>From Bruce (AA8U)" <aa8u at  Sat Apr 13 03:18:15 1996
From: Bruce (AA8U)" <aa8u at (Bruce (AA8U))
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:18:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Contest Catagories
Message-ID: <199604130218.WAA01663 at>

Hello Fellow Contesters,

One point in this discussion caught my attention. 

I have long felt that the ARRL SS needs an additional category. The addition
of "MULTI-OP LOW POWER" would be an interesting and worthy addition. I would
regularly enter my station in this category if it existed. It dosen't, so I
enter m/s QRO....or single op depending on how up to it I feel. HI  

I think there are quite a few decent contesting groups that would also enter
this category. Difficult to know for sure isn't it? I suggest a trial period
of two or three years to see if the category captures sufficient interest.
You can be assured that AA8U would enter the m/s low power and we would have
just as much fun with the amp's off as on! 

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong,


>>How about a division in multi-op categories.  Multi-op high power, multi-op
>>low power ( I would like to see this in SS).

>In Georgia, we typically get two or three multi-op entries for SS. That's not
>a terrible lot, but there probably aren't more than a couple of dozen
>within an entire division.

>From AA7BG--Matt <AA7BG at>  Sat Apr 13 05:14:05 1996
From: AA7BG--Matt <AA7BG at> (AA7BG--Matt)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 04:14:05 GMT
Subject: Kenwood s-meter lamps
Message-ID: <199604130414.EAA19159 at>

Sorry to run this up the flagpole again, but it worked so well I thought
inquiring minds would want to know. Many Kenwood 930/940 users advised me to
just go to Radio Shack for replacement S-meter lamps and wire the 12v lamps
in series. Someone (I'm sorry I dumped the message) expanded on this and
advised getting screw-in lamp bases and lamps so as to provide onw with
quicker change-outs (sans soldering) when the lamps go bad again. I did this
today and now I'm enjoying the warm green glow of my S-meter once again.

The part numbers are: 272-358  (lamp bases)
                      272-1143 (12v screw-in lamps)

Just snip the wires from the existing lamps leaving two of them (wires) long
enough to solder to each lamp base. Then just solder a short wire connecting
the lamp bases together. Total cost was less than $2.50!

Thanks to whoever suggested this and thanks again to Danny. My ON/OFF switch
has been working fine ever since he said to "bounce" my finger of it quickly
at a steep angle.


AA7BG at 			Matt			Power, Montana	

>From silver at (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira)  Sat Apr 13 06:02:27 1996
From: silver at (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira) (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 02:02:27 -0300
Subject: WPX INFO!
Message-ID: <199604130502.CAA26513 at>

Hello om Carlos

	Nice to see you on the contest server! I am very sorry for
th STUPID anwsers  you got! I am QRV in contest for 30 years and
contest manager for 10 years still I do not know how to get the
CQ-WPX log via email to CQ-magazine! Please can you help me to the 
conditions and the email address? Thanks in advance

					Muite obrigado amigo 73!
Anton Mandos		anton at		ON6NL
Truyenstr. 26		EMT RCE Applications 		HF & VHF
B-3640 Kinrooi 		Geb. BY-17, P.O.B 218,		ON0NL 145.6625  -600kHz
Belgium		 	5600 MD Eindhoven Netherlands	ON6NL at PI8JOP.#LIM.NL.EU

Hello Anton,

You just need to send the .BIN file and the .SUM file in the case of CT.
The e-mail address to send your log is "n8bjq at" (Steve), you can
ask him anything, he is a gentleman instead of other contesters. 

The bad reply I received (it was only one) did not bother me, unpoliteness exists in every place, in the streets, at the work and even in Amateur Radio.


Carlos - PY1CAS
E-mail: silver at

ps. Thanks for the portuguese!

>From N7AVK <lew at>  Sat Apr 13 09:48:44 1996
From: N7AVK <lew at> (N7AVK)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 01:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Summary..Greasing Crank-Up Towers
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960413003504.850A-100000 at>

Greetings to the Contesting Body,
     I received many responses... to the question of what was used to
lubricate the tower legs that levitate in a crank-up tower.
     Motorcycle drive chain spray lubricant was suggested. I use a foamy
chain spray on the pulleys and apply it twice a year. Another similar
product named "Phil Tenacious" was also mentioned. This approach to the
tower legs doesn't work for me as the lubricant is weathered off rapidly
due to the Pacific storms. Seems like the pulleys are protected better by
the pulley housing.  Same argument for WD-40...Its great for penetrating,
but doesn't have staying power.
    AA4LR & WA0PUJ mentioned a spray lubricant named LPS. It comes in 5
different "weights". Its used alot on aircraft. NM1Q mentioned a similar
product named "Never-Seize" which is found in auto parts emporiums. In the
past I have used "regular" marine green grease that squishes out of a
basic grease gun and smeared a layer along the articulating surface of each
tower leg after cranking down and tipping over the tower. Labor intensive
and makes for sore fingers..... hence my original post.
    There were several  inquiries about crank ups in general which I will
try to respond to serially/personally. I had intended to make a short
presentation about cranky contesters crank up catastrophies at Dayton this
May....but family obligations this year preclude a visit..maybe next year.
    Tnx to W7ZRC, N4ZR, AI7B, AA4LR, K7LXC, K7FR, WA0PUJ, NM1Q, AE4AP,
AG7M, and K3ZNV among others for their input. The usual disclaimer exists
that I'm not a grease purveyor and stand to make no profit off of any of
the afore mentioned products. Also I profit not from crank up towers,
unless you are silly enough to climb one or have one fall on you while in
my Emergency Departments encatchment's area..... then I have to tend to
your injuries as I operate the local ER.
    I did query US Tower brass as to what they suggested as my last tower
that arrived from them had been greased at strategic points on the tower
legs with what looks like the regular automotive grease. They said
conditions varied among QTH's so that the greasing sked would be variable.
They emphasized a 3 year cable/pulley replacement schedule....but thats
another thread.
     I intend on obtaining the LPS and Never-Seize sprays and trying them
out. We'll do a little field testing and see how it goes for the next
year. I'll report the results to the assembled then.
     73 and I remain,       Lew

         Lew  Sayre   N7AVK               lew at
         P.O.Box  3110                    Fax 503-391-2258
         Salem, Oregon 97302              160M thru 1296MHz

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