Multis Abstaining from spotting

Tue Apr 23 22:37:01 EDT 1996

Recently I told of a killer hour I had as the result of ease dropping on
another contest clubs packet spots. The vast majority of those were put out
by the second twenty meter operator at one large multi-multi. 

While I was not the intended benefactor of this information, I think it is
obvious that not just the m-m guys benefit from the packet....they to a large
extent can really fuel it!

KM9P's suggestion of m-m stations abstaining is an interesting one in that it
should only leave m-s and s-a stations on line. The complexion of the
spotting would change a lot based on my observations from afar.

Bill what is your interest in not having the m-m input? Are you looking to
compare the m-m's operators against each other on a more "level" operating

Jim    k1zx    k1zx at

>From Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr at  Tue Apr 23 03:43:06 1996
From: Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr at (Fred Hopengarten)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:43:06 EDT
Subject: Elevated Guywire Anchor Posts
Message-ID: <317c43bd.k1vr at>

On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:03:59 -0700 (PDT), "Stan Griffiths"
<w7ni at>
> Check the Rohn catalog and see how they do it.  What do
you know.  They
> DON'T do it at all.  Rohn does not recommend elevated guy
posts and I think
> for a very good reason.  They tend to rotate in the ground
under high
> stress.

My life is complete.  I've finally caught Stan dead wrong on

AU CONTRAIRE, CHER STAN!  Rohn DOES do it.  See the back of
drawing C-731105 R2 "Tower Grounding Methods", contained in
all the Rohn catalogs I have here, where there are three
photos labelled:  "Proper Anchor Installations."  The photo
in the lower left hand corner is labelled:  "10' "I" Beam
stub anchor with nicopress sleeves and safety wire"

                      Fred Hopengarten K1VR
           Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
     home + office telephone:  617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
                   internet:  k1vr at
            "Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
                       than small ones, low."

>From Spike Lazar <slazar19 at>  Wed Apr 24 05:10:07 1996
From: Spike Lazar <slazar19 at> (Spike Lazar)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 00:10:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Hired Gun....sorta
Message-ID: <199604240410.AAA18252 at>

At 09:36 PM 4/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Thank You Doctor Of Bafoonik, however:
>Whilst you hint that those who did better than I in the SS were merely
>hired guns. The owner and builders end of the station are my father, and
>mother: W1CW & W1YL. I am the hired gun who comes in and does the tower
>work and pushes the F1 key on appropriate weekends.

  Well I guess I'm guilty of premature efactuation, it happens at my age.
  We appreciate your honesty and promptly DQ you, but you still have
  to keep that jar of anchovies awarded to you. 

  Also, the next time I set an anchor post, we will deposit your certificate
  of merit (for your honesty), a gold card, a tucker catalogue, telnet/
  packet software and a Snapple bottle (official contest beverage) into
  that little black hole.

  Regretfully yours,
  dr. Bafoofnik

  p.s. Would be ok if I kept the Tucker catalogue anyways?

>From KF6OG at (MR JOE R CLEMENT)  Wed Apr 24 05:26:24 1996
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 00:26:24 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <013.06722065.DJDJ00A at>


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