rf exp
W3AB at aol.com
W3AB at aol.com
Fri Aug 9 02:27:36 EDT 1996
Hey guys and gals. This RF exposure stuff can work to our benefit.
Question- What happens when that 65 watt police/fire/public service radio
radiates its signal thru its 3+Db antenna in YOUR neighborhood next to your
congressperson's spouse/kids????? How about that BIG Kw AM/FM/TV station????
Start complaining about the commercial broadcasters/licensees before the
general population complains about all of us. Remember-BUCK$ TALK
73 de GEO
>From foggie at dtx.net (foggie) Fri Aug 9 08:08:40 1996
From: foggie at dtx.net (foggie) (foggie)
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 02:08:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Force 12
Message-ID: <XFMail.960809021649.foggie at dtx.net>
Probably a very strange question here. (What with all the rf craze) is the 40
meter add on worth it for a C3S? I have ordered the C3S and just noticed the
40 meter add on kit does not change the turning radius. That was a major issue
for me since I live in military housing, and it is hard enough to just get
approval for the 30 foot tower, which is only going to put the beam about 8
foot (counting mast length) above the roof. I don't have a modeling program,
but I figure the pattern is going to be messed up anyways, so just wondered if
the 40 meter kit is worth the extra $180? (of course if I had paid attention
it was only $150 more if I had ordered the c4s)
73,
Al - kk5zx
>From garyk9gs at solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) Fri Aug 9 06:39:54 1996
From: garyk9gs at solaria.sol.net (Gary Schwartz) (Gary Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:39:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: New FCC RF safety rules
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9608082308.A3399-d100000 at solaria.sol.net>
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, ROBERT REED wrote:
A very well thought out reply Robert!
> My first impression is that a set of expected exposure calculations
> needs to be developed for typical installations and that report made
> available easily to anyone.
>
> Calculations on hand may thwart a neighbors attack when he sees
> you've got the data to show your equipment is OK.
A great idea, diffuse the problem or make it go away from the very start.
> Presumeably the ARRL would be a good collection point of such data
> but I think DXers and contesters more invovled and quicker to react
> should look to their own collection point.
>
> Once mode, operating style and other factors are incorporated into
> the figures I think we will be less afraid of the effects.
>
> What we need is some calculations of real life typical stations to
> know where we stand in the final analysis. This to both settle our
> fears and to show neighbors "why bother" when your station is OK.
>
I would like to see the FCC come up with a document, explaining this whole
thing, in layman's terms to use as a hand-out for neighbors and the
occasional lawyers that might come sniffing around.
> I would also like to see a provision in the laws where stations
> forced to demonstrate actual compliance by expensive testing are
> rembursed by the complaintant if the tests proved to be within
> standards. How many neighbors will think twice if they have to pay
> the fee for the tests if they're wrong.
>
This is something the ARRL needs to push for IMMEDIATELY.
Another thing that we don't need are supposed "amateurs" like N6NB
whispering in the FCC's ear and telling them what we really need in terms
of regulations, for our own good.
Wayne's comments that amateurs need to be more aware of the harmful
effects of RF radiation is kinda funny. Now we will have a few questions
included in our exams. BFD! I'll bet most of the subscribers of this
mailing list, as well as most active DX'ers, VHF weak signal fans and
contesters, have not taken an amateur exam in years and if they have an
Extra, will NEVER take one again.
Secondly, I think that the percentage of licensed hams that are ARRL
members is something like 20-25 percent. I'll also be willing to bet that
the percentage of hams that subscribe to CQ, 73 and other magazines in
this country follow along similar lines. Just how are all these
"non-aligned" hams supposed to be brought in to the RF exposure fold?
How many of the unwashed (literally) that one sees strolling around
hamfests with 4 HT's strapped to their belts is really going to care one
bit about this RF exposure stuff? After all, the cellular lobby made sure
that handheld transmitting devices are exempt.
Let's face it, the kind of amateurs that the FCC wants are the types that:
1) Only own 2 meter HT's.
2) Don't have TVI complaints from their neighbors.
3) Don't care about operating on valuable spectrum space that our
government can auction off for big $$'s. ( Like they own it in the
first place)
4) Don't belong to national societies like the ARRL ( which
is probably just an annoying gnat buzzing around the FCC's ears).
5) Don't want or care about putting towers up.
6) Don't care about CC&R's and zoning issues and pressuring the FCC to
"fix" these problems.
7) Will never own much more than a 50W brick to go with their HT.
8) Will be confined to a small portion of the spectrum and be cast aside
like CB, until the FCC can finally justify eliminating our little slice of
spectrum entirely and sell off the 2M band for really big $$'s after
everyone's left the hobby.
9) Doesn't have a shred of technical knowledge to properly defend
themselves or even know what they have inside that little box on their hip.
That's the kind of hams the FCC wants. Outta sight, outta mind, problem
fixed!
Let's face it folks, the FCC, with pressure from Congressmen with $ in
their eyes and business users that has the ear of both, have figured out a
way to deal with our hobby that is both easy and painless for them.
Aided by a few willing dupes such as Wayne, N6NB, (and probably other
Waynes as well), this mythical "RF Exposure committee" which is composed
of hams which are only trying to "help" us protect ourselves and the ARRL
which doesn't have the political clout or the funds to be effective at
all, this hobby has started down the slippery slope already.
Frankly, in the last 10 years, our hobby has seen nothing but a steady
erosion of both our spectrum, our ability to operate and construct
effective stations, and a dumbing down of the intellectual level and
skills required to become amateurs.
It might not be too far in the future that your neighbor will drop by for
a friendly chat with his attorney in tow, a RF power density meter, an FCC
inspector and instead of reaching out to shake your hand, will be asking
for the keys to your house and your checkbook. I'm sure the neighbor and
the attorney will be the only ones smiling.
73,
Gary K9GS
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>From k2wk at crystal.palace.net (Walt Kornienko) Fri Aug 9 07:21:27 1996
From: k2wk at crystal.palace.net (Walt Kornienko) (Walt Kornienko)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Regulations
Message-ID: <199608090621.CAA03918 at crystal.palace.net>
Bill Sattler, N0XX/7 wrote:
>
> I've been following the recent discussion concerning the possibility of new
> regulations, and the castigation of old regulations with some interest.
> Much of the discussion seems to be critical of "them", the evil city
> governments and planning commissions who enact regulations inhospitable to hams.
> I'd just like to make the comment that most smaller towns are DESPERATE for
> citizen involvement, and here's your chance to make a real difference. I
> know that big cities are a different matter, but in smaller towns pay
> attention to the notices of vacancies on planning commissions and city
> councils and go for it. Five years ago I joined the local planning
> commission, and am now President of the commission. Do you think this town
> is going to enact any rules about towers or RF levels??? In fact, our town
> has a 35' height limit on structures, EXCEPT radio towers and antennas, on
> which there is NO height limit. :)
I did the same thing. Thinking altruistically, and trying to "give back" to
my community, I sat on the local planning board for 10 years, 5 of which
I was vice-chair. When it came to putting up a new tower, it did me no good.
As you know, Bill, people involved in government are held to a higher
standard.
An irate neighbor with her high-priced lawyer ambushed me at a meeting
one evening. The board atty actually allowed the neighbor's atty to take
testimony against my tower without giving me proper notice. This was done
in direct violation of my civil rights. I was ambushed! I didn't have an
opportunity to retain an atty, nor was I able to prepare a case. I at
least had enough sense to leave the building so I couldn't be forced to
testify against myself.
The neighbor somehow got the board to hear her complaints and the board sicked
the building inspector on me. I was fined $425 PER WEEK, for making a slight
modification to my original design. I was in a situation where I had to get
my tower up yesterday, or else face the possibility of a stop work order.
It cost me $5K, that I wouldn't normally have spent, to pay engineers,
and attorneys all because one lousy neighbor decided to manipulate the law
in her favor. I'd like to add that the tower is a permitted use in the zone,
and NO variances were required to put it up. Everything was done legally!
The actual conspiracy between my neighbor, the board sec'y (who told her
about my permit issuance) and the inspector would be to lengthy to expalin
here.
The case was eventually won at the local level, but now I, my wife, the town
and the town's Land Use Board is being sued by this same neighbor, in
State Superior Court. Since she isn't getting her way with the town, she
turns around and sues them. Some squeaking and alot of money from only
one individual can ruin an otherwise happy day. The motive here is to
place enough financial hardship on my family that I'll simply move away
or take down all my antennas. I have to pay big bucks just to defend what
is permitted use.
Incidentally, I resigned from the board, and we are now legal allies
against my neighbor.
All I am saying is, don't be naieve. It seems like nice guys
always finish last.
> Yes, it takes time, but not that much. You'll get to know many of your
> neighbors, and have a chance to make a difference in your community, and as
> a side benefit, be able to keep an eye on thing that might affect your
> CONTEST :) station.
> Don't get caught up in the "us against them" mentality, be proactive and
> involved in the decisions that might affect you.
> Thanks for the bandwidth.
No argument here. I am still involved as a volunteer and I still believe
that community volunteerism has merit. Just be very careful what you
volunteer for.
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* *
* 73 de Walt Kornienko - K2WK (FRC) *
* *
* k2wk at crystal.palace.net or K2WK at N2BIM.NJ.NOAM *
* Snail: 52 Sunset Inn Rd Lafayette, NJ 07848 *
* 201-579-1966 (machine) or 201-579-3660 (shack) *
* *
* "You are today where your thoughts have brought you." *
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>From TREY at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) Fri Aug 9 09:08:13 1996
From: TREY at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:08:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions
Message-ID: <839578093.231688.TREY at tgv.com>
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
CQ-Contest at TGV.COM
by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN & Jim Reisert, AD1C
July 1, 1996
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Contained in this FAQ:
1. General Information about the FAQ and CQ-Contest at TGV.COM
o About this FAQ
o About CQ-Contest at TGV.COM
o Editorial Guidelines
o Appropriate Topics for Discussion
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o Subscribing to the list
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o Getting the list in Digest form
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3. Operating Practices
4. Mailing List Archives
5. E-mail addresses of Contesters
o General Information about E-mail Addresses
o WB5VZL List
o CQ-Contest REVIEW
o QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM
o World Wide Web Directory Services
o The old-fashioned way!
6. Related Mailing Lists
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o Kids contest group -- kids at contesting.com
o CT users group -- ct-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
o NA users group -- na-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
o SuperDuper users group -- sd-user at blacksheep.org
o TRLOG users group -- trlog at contesting.com
o Internet DX Reflector - dx at ve7tcp.ampr.org
7. Internet Resources for Contesters
o Contest Log Submissions
o World Wide Web
8. Finding out more about the Internet
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5) E-mail addresses of Contesters
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contester. Please do NOT send a message to CQ-Contest that says "Does
anyone have the E-mail address for ______?"
5.02) WB5VZL List
George Fremin, WB5VZL (geoiii at bga.com), maintains a fairly current list of
contester E-mail addresses. Send him a note to him asking for his list. Or
you can find the list on the WWW at http://www.contesting.com/emails.html.
5.03) CQ-Contest REVIEW
You can get a list of CQ-Contest subscribers by sending a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST at TGV.COM that says REVIEW.
5.04) QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM
The QRZ! Callsign Database has the E-mail addresses for over 30,000 hams!
You can access it on the WWW at http://www.qrz.com.
5.05) World Wide Web Directory Services
There are several services on the WWW for looking up E-mail address for a
given name. Here are a few of them:
Bigfoot http://bigfoot.com/
Four11 http://www.Four11.com/
LookUP! http://www.lookup.com/
OKRA http://okra.ucr.edu/okra/
WhoWhere?http://www.whowhere.com/
Thanks to Steve Zettel KJ7CH for the information!
5.06) The old-fashioned way!
If you've exhausted every other resource, try calling the person you seek
on the telephone and asking for their E-mail address directly. Or send a
letter to their Callbook address (and include an SASE if you desire a quick
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6) Related Mailing Lists
6.01) Contest results group -- 3830 at contesting.com
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to post-contest score reports, as is
done on 3830 KHz after contests. Summaries of the scores reported to this
mailing list are posted on CQ-Contest on a regular basis after contests. To
subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
3830-request at contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.02) Kids contest group -- kids at contesting.com
This mailing list is used to post the results of the SquINT contests which
are announced on CQ-CONTEST. These contests encourage kids to participate
in a fun filled event and gain exposure to amateur radio and contesting.
Contact n6tr at contesting.com to sign up and receive a copy of the rules.
6.03) CT users group -- ct-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the CT Logging Program, by K1EA.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
ct-user-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.04) NA users group -- na-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the MA Logging Program, by K8CC.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
na-user-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.05) SuperDuper users group -- sd-user at blacksheep.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the SuperDuper Logging Program,
by EI5DI. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
MAJORDOMO at blacksheep.org that says SUBSCRIBE SD-USER.
6.06) TRLOG users group -- trlog at contesting.com
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the TRLOG Logging Program, by
N6TR. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
trlog-request at contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.
6.07) Internet DX Reflector - dx at ve7tcp.ampr.org
This mailing list is a forum dedicated to Amateur Radio DXing. To subscribe
to this mailing list, send a message to dx-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that
says SUBSCRIBE.
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7) Internet Resources for Contesters
7.01) Contest Log Submissions
Jimmy Floyd, WA4ZXA (floydjr at interpath.com) is the unofficial Internet
scorekeeper. He compiles the "score rumors" that are posted to the 3830 and
CQ-Contest reflectors.
Contest Name Address
ARRL Contests contest at arrl.org
CQ WPX n8bjq at erinet.com
DARC Worked All Europe (WAE) 100712.2226 at CompuServe.com
NCJ Sprint (CW) cwsprint at contesting.com
NCJ Sprint (SSB) aoniswan at ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu
North American QSO Party (CW) w9nq at ccis.com
North American QSO Party (SSB)merchant at silcom.com
7.02) World Wide Web
Contesting On-line http://www.contesting.com/
ARRL Contest Branch http://www.arrl.org/contests/
CQ Contest Magazine http://www.access.digex.net/~cqmag/
National Contest Journal (NCJ) http://www.waterw.com/~ncj/
KA9FOX Web Page http://www.QTH.com/ka9fox/
LA9HW Web Page http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html
OH2KI Web Page http://mpoli.fi/~leif/oh2ki.html
WB2K Contest DXpedition Registry http://www.mordor.com/wb2k/dxmenu.html
CT by K1EA Software http://www.ve7tcp.ampr.org/Software/ct/
Super Duper by EI5DI http://www.iol.ie/~okanep/
TR by N6TR http://www.QTH.com/tr/
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8) Finding out more about the Internet
Pick up a copy of the book The Internet Companion by Tracy LaQuey,
Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-62224-6. If your local technical book store
doesn't carry it, you can order from Computer Literacy, 2590 North First
Street, San Jose, CA 95131. Their phone number is +1 408 435-0744.
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This FAQ was written by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN (trey at cisco.COM) and
converted to HTML by Jim Reisert, AD1C (AD1C at tiac.net). Many thanks to Jim
and to everyone else who has contributed to this FAQ.
>From rhealy at mdsroc.com (Rus Healy) Fri Aug 9 13:53:41 1996
From: rhealy at mdsroc.com (Rus Healy) (Rus Healy)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:53:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fred's Fables
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960809085206.29228A-100000 at mdsroc.com>
Hey Fred, this is completely unrealistic. I mean, why would anyone
detonate a nuke over *Kansas*?
(This is the only grin I've gotten out of this whole issue.)
--73, Rus
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Rus Healy, NJ2L
MDS, Rochester, New York
nj2l at mdsroc.com
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, De Syam wrote:
> FRED'S FABLES
>
> (With apologies to Hugh Cassidy, WA6AUD)
>
> The date was May 20. The year was 2046. Four days earlier, the
> Forces of Evil had detonated a massive thermonuclear weapon high
> above the Kansas countryside, creating an Electromagentic Pulse . . .
>From snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steven Nace) Fri Aug 9 16:29:06 1996
From: snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steven Nace) (Steven Nace)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:29:06 -0700
Subject: A New Federal Antenna Preemption
Message-ID: <v02120d02ae310925da02@[192.77.86.212]>
Wayne wrote:
>Amidst all the furor over the FCC's RF safety rules, the FCC
>acted on another docket that also was mandated with a 180-day ETC...
>but I see a little hope in this for amateurs....ETC
Gee Wayne:
You are just full of good news!!
de KN5H
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>From ke7gh at primenet.com (Brian K. Short) Fri Aug 9 15:17:39 1996
From: ke7gh at primenet.com (Brian K. Short) (Brian K. Short)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 14:17:39 +-100
Subject: | X | Pse QSL ???
Message-ID: <01BB85FD.9B02E960 at ip218.phx.primenet.com>
I would prefer this not become a fray, but I do have a
serious question.
I am a very small player in the contest world, but even
so I seem to get quite a number of QSLs following each
event I participate in (Podunk QSO Party etc...). It has
become an issue of STATE, PREFIX, GRID, COUNTY, etc.
Most QSL cards arrive "post card style." Now I don't mind
springing for the lousy 20 cents, but I must admit that the
cards with SASE's do get sent first (expediency).
Occasionally, due to participation in other events or illness
or whatever, unfortunately I get behind on the post cards and
my filing (by necessity) gets ahead of my mailing. This is not
a conspiracy as some beleive...
With the advent of "label-printing" logging programs and callbook
databases it is quite easy to mass mail a large number of QSL's.
I did this just this (postcard style) one SS season for both SSB
and CW (both clean sweeps BTW). My return rate was quite low.
I am not talking about DX.
Finally, the question: How do you big players handle what must be
a monumental task? What is the protocol these days?
I know I just received a QSL card for a state I needed on 160m
over a year and a half after sending a QSL with SASE (thanks BTW
I still needed it, hadn't been on the band since).
Some folks have taken it poorly, but observation wrt QSL'ing is:
1) "postcards" are worst
2) a simple return address label is as good as an SASE (to me)
3) an SASE is as good as it gets and is easier than sending two
cards, the second complaining about the first, followed by a
huffy letter and 2 dimes taped inside when the card is received
with a short message saying those with SASEs get returned quickest
I know I have to use an SASE to get returns on those I need and I
really DO enjoy collecting/sending QSL cards.
Some have emphatically told me "ham radio didn't use to be this way."
I sincerely appreciate every QSO and QSL, de Brian ke7gh at primenet.com
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