Drawing the Line

Wed Dec 4 14:48:10 EST 1996

I think that with phone and CW contesting, copying by ear should be a 
requirement.  But contesting already has it's "robots".  RTTY is copied 
by a machine, the radio can be tuned by the computer, the rotor can be 
moved by the computer, the exchange can be copied, logged, exchange 
sent, and QRZ for the next QSO.  And nobody can tell weather it is a 
robot or not when you work the station.  The exchange looks the same, 
etc.  The only give away of robots on RTTY is that they usually CQ on 
one frequency for hours and hours on end, sometimes the whole contest.  
These robots don't win contests....yet.

I don't knwo where we draw the line, and even more difficult, HOW do we 
draw that line.  Experimenters should be allowed to experiment, and 
contest, but in their own class?  Amateur radio contesting will need to 
address this issue sooner or later, maybe we should take care of it 
sooner and be prepared.
-- 
Al, KE1FO, ex. KE6BER    mailto:ke1fo at contesting.com or ke6ber at tiac.net
Check out my web page, http://www.tiac.net/users/ke6ber for summaries 
from the contest reflector and a growing list of amateur radio links.

>From dleclair at efn.org (Cleve D Leclair)  Thu Dec  5 22:23:54 1996
From: dleclair at efn.org (Cleve D Leclair) (Cleve D Leclair)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:23:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: No CW????????
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961205141658.19643B-100000 at garcia.efn.org>

We have a slow speed net (not exceed 10wpm) on 75m errr 80m. It use to
meet right near the bottom of the old novice freq. spectrum. It was great
there are some ops, extra, adv., and gen., who really help...It was the
first cw net, traffic net, I checked in to. thank you very much to...

KA7KOI, KD7ME, BONNIE, POUPOU, a couple of VE7's and several others I
really can't remember....

The nets are there, and most likly, in every state. Check the ARRL net
directory.

>From paul1 at wizard.ucs.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson)  Thu Dec  5 22:50:06 1996
From: paul1 at wizard.ucs.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson) (Paul Erickson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 96 14:50:06 PST
Subject: 40mtr 2el Quad vs Yagi?
Message-ID: <9612052250.AA02360 at wizard.ucs.sfu.ca>

Hi Everyone,

In the next year I may have the oppertunity to change qth's and will
be looking to set up a single tower (@70ft) setup for contesting. I have
a 4 element (30ft boom) quad in storage and was wondering if I should
be looking at changing the outermost spreaders to accomodate a 40mtr
quad, or if I should be looking for a 2 element 40mtr yagi. The advantage
of the modified quad is that I can then modify it to handle the warc bands
including 30 mtrs. Since I run in the qrp catagory, that means that my
time is spent in search and pounce.  Any input would be greatly appreciated.

cheers, Paul
VE7CQK
email: paul1 at wizard.ucs.sfu.ca

>From kt4ld at juno.com (ANDREW H LEWIS)  Thu Dec  5 22:50:27 1996
From: kt4ld at juno.com (ANDREW H LEWIS) (ANDREW H LEWIS)
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 17:50:27 EST
Subject: Available callsign source?
References: <v02120d01aeccd54567ea@[192.77.86.74]>
Message-ID: <19961205.185323.7735.6.KT4LD at juno.com>

On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 12:43:12 -0700 snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steven Nace)
writes:
>Hello All:
>
>Where can I find an UPDATED list of available 1X2, 2X1 and even 1X3 
>calls???
>
>I tried the KA9FOX web site and found an excellent list provided by 
>AD8I.
>Unfortunately, it has not been updated since gate 2.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>de Hose  KN5H

Hose,
The best server I found is QRZ. In their main web page they have a
subtitle titled Available 1x2 and 2x1 callsigns that are updated daily.
They are broken up into categories by call district and by 1x2 calls or
2x1 calls. That's how I got my call. Point your browser to
HTTP://WWW.QRZ.COM. Hope this helps some.

                                        73
                                        K4HQ
*********************************************************************************************
Andrew Lewis            16 YEARS OLD        EXTRA CLASS
Formerly: KE4LJM, KE4LJM/NA 067, KT4LD
PAST OPERATIONS: ZF2/KT4LD, ZF8ZP, ZF2ZX, 6Y5NR, 6Y5/KT4LD, XE/KT4LD,
XE9LD
QSL Manager for: TF/WF0E, HS0E, HZ1ZM, TF2YE
DXCC, WAS, WAC, Won 1996 ARRL DX PHONE QRP NC, Won CQWW SSB 1995 QRP NC
*********************************************************************************************

>From kt4ld at juno.com (ANDREW H LEWIS)  Thu Dec  5 22:50:27 1996
From: kt4ld at juno.com (ANDREW H LEWIS) (ANDREW H LEWIS)
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 17:50:27 EST
Subject: Available callsign source?
References: <v02120d01aeccd54567ea@[192.77.86.74]>
Message-ID: <19961205.185323.7735.6.KT4LD at juno.com>

On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 12:43:12 -0700 snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov (Steven Nace)
writes:
>Hello All:
>
>Where can I find an UPDATED list of available 1X2, 2X1 and even 1X3 
>calls???
>
>I tried the KA9FOX web site and found an excellent list provided by 
>AD8I.
>Unfortunately, it has not been updated since gate 2.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>de Hose  KN5H

Hose,
The best server I found is QRZ. In their main web page they have a
subtitle titled Available 1x2 and 2x1 callsigns that are updated daily.
They are broken up into categories by call district and by 1x2 calls or
2x1 calls. That's how I got my call. Point your browser to
HTTP://WWW.QRZ.COM. Hope this helps some.

                                        73
                                        K4HQ
*********************************************************************************************
Andrew Lewis            16 YEARS OLD        EXTRA CLASS
Formerly: KE4LJM, KE4LJM/NA 067, KT4LD
PAST OPERATIONS: ZF2/KT4LD, ZF8ZP, ZF2ZX, 6Y5NR, 6Y5/KT4LD, XE/KT4LD,
XE9LD
QSL Manager for: TF/WF0E, HS0E, HZ1ZM, TF2YE
DXCC, WAS, WAC, Won 1996 ARRL DX PHONE QRP NC, Won CQWW SSB 1995 QRP NC
*********************************************************************************************