Towers: Misery Loves Company

K7LXC at K7LXC at
Fri Jul 5 19:59:52 EDT 1996

In a message dated 96-07-05 17:46:16 EDT, you write:

>I can't believe what I think I am reading here.  If the proposed legislation
>goes through, it sounds like it will illegal for a community to prevent the
>installation of an unsafe tower!!  What am I missing?  As the owner of 4
>towers and a Rohn dealer, I could possibly benefit by such legislation but I
>would NEVER favor it.  Nobody should put up an unsafe tower and there should
>be laws against it. 

Stan --

     Don't forget that they still have to get a permit with appropriate PE
stamps on it before they can actually BUILD it.  This legislation would be
BEFORE the permit process to allow erection over the CC&Rs and possibly some
zoning restrictions.  I wouldn't mind piggybacking on the backs of the deep
pockets of the telecommications companies - AT&T, Motorola, 

     Sounds okay to me.

73,  Steve   K7LXC

>From barry at (Barry Kutner)  Sat Jul  6 00:35:23 1996
From: barry at (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 96 23:35:23 GMT
Subject: Towers: Misery Loves Company
Message-ID: <o07LqD2w165w at>

Stan - I think you are misinterpreting here. I believe the safety 
referred to is unsubstantiated claims of RF causing harm to the 
community, not putting up an unsafe tower...


Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Internet: barry at
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>From kf3p at (Tyler Stewart)  Sat Jul  6 02:43:46 1996
From: kf3p at (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:43:46 -0400
Subject: TIC Ring and CC 2L 40m TRUSS ?
Message-ID: <199607060143.VAA18213 at>

>OK all of you who know the "TIC Code of Honor" (meaning been there, done it)
>What the 'best' way to mount the "truss support" part of the CC 2L 40m
>on a TIC Ring Model 1022 ? TIC does offer a optional piece I see ...
>FYI ... If you have never installed a TIC unit, I would STRONGLY suggest you
>make a practice run at GROUND level before you install it up high. Mine
>is at 2' right now and it was well worth the time/effort to 'dummy it up'
>to make sure I fully (fooly?) understand how it works before I take it
>up to the 70' point on the tower ... 
>Thanks !  73 Bill AA4NU aa4nu at

You probably dont even need the truss when mounted in the TIC cradle.  Do the
QHS boom beefs and you dont need it for any install!  I've got my QHS++ 402
mounted on a 2" mast using the HyGain cast aluminum clamp assembly with no
truss at 125' it seems to be doing just fine...and it's seen some hefty
winds in the year that it's been up.   Yeah, the boom sags a what.

If you do use a truss, I would lose the aluminum and replace it with some
small phillystran like the KLM's use.  Use some small galvanized turnbuckles
at the mast or TIC truss mount for tension control.  

73, Tyler

PS - you are absolutely right about preassembly of the TIC rotors, although
the B version goes together somewhat easier than the old original version.

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>From jfeustle at UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.)  Sat Jul  6 14:56:12 1996
From: jfeustle at UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.) (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.)
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 08:56:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CW on the big screen
Message-ID: <v01510102ae03d56fb7fc@[]>

After all the discussion on the contest reflector about the impending
demise of CW, I found it fascinating to see this "out-of-date technology"
portrayed in such a positive light in this summer's hit movie "Independence

Yea, I'm not dumb enough (yet) to think that this will carry the day when
it comes to crunch time with Morse code, as they call it in the film, but
perceptions ARE important. Somewhere among the makers of that film, amateur
radio has a genuine friend.

I'm won't take valuable time to review the movie. Go see it. I went because
of the nifty special effects, especially the explosions! The CW line goes
like this: aliens attack earth and in the process disable all the usual and
traditional forms of communications, mostly networked stuff like data and
voice. Our heroes fall back to THE one form of communication that still
works: CW, straight keys and all, which are shown several times during the
film. Ham radio is one of the few remaining ways to communicate world-wide,
and there is specific reference to it. It works when it is most needed.

Disruption of networked data and voice communications is a fairly frequent
theme in today's war-game secnarios. By virus (try Tom Clancy's Op Center
series, or Larry Bond's most recent novel), or alien attack, "Independence
Day," the weaknesses of our computer-controled world are easily exposed.
Nice to see that someone besides us recognizes the potential of amateur
radio is a valuable communications tool in times of dire emergency.

As the popular saying from t.v. goes, "Image is everything." Our's got a
nice polishing in a film that is going to reach hundreds of thousands of

Joe Feustle, N8AAT

BTW, I almost ran out and bought 200 ft of Rohn 55 earlier this week when
the newspaper reported that the Ohio State Patrol had captured several
aliens on the Turnpike. Thought I'd capitalize on the movie. Darn shame
they turned out to be "illegal aliens."

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