Help-Testing 50 OHM Coax
JACKBLY at delphi.com
JACKBLY at delphi.com
Sat Jul 6 12:49:29 EDT 1996
After 10+ years of having various sections of 50 OHM Coax on the tower,
I figure it was time to check to see if any of this should be replaced.
Any suggetions on a easy way to check 50 Ohm Coax?
Would a MFJ-259 HF analyzer & Resistance Meter be of any value in checking
coax without the antennas attached?
Thanks, Jack, KA8D
>From jstearn at mnsinc.com (James D. Stearns) Sat Jul 6 19:33:44 1996
From: jstearn at mnsinc.com (James D. Stearns) (James D. Stearns)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:33:44 -0400
Subject: Towers/EMF
Message-ID: <01BB6B4A.19218640 at jstearn.mnsinc.com>
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Hello,
Name is Jim, KC4ZHQ located in Woodbridge, VA., abt 25 miles south of =
Washington D.C. just west of I-95.
Read ur E-mail and the above file, either ZIP or Self-Ext, contain =
various URLs and information related to Electromagnetic Field (EMF) with =
regards to effects of EMF not only from RF but also power lines, =
appliances, etc.
Enjoy.
73s
Jim
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>From k6ll at juno.com (David O. Hachadorian) Sun Jul 7 04:20:14 1996
From: k6ll at juno.com (David O. Hachadorian) (David O. Hachadorian)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:20:14 PST
Subject: Help-Testing 50 OHM Coax
References: <01I6R29INRXE8YG4NM at delphi.com>
Message-ID: <19960706.192309.4951.0.k6ll at juno.com>
On Sat, 06 Jul 1996 11:49:29 -0500 (EST) JACKBLY at delphi.com writes:
>After 10+ years of having various sections of 50 OHM Coax on the
>tower,
>I figure it was time to check to see if any of this should be
>replaced.
>Any suggetions on a easy way to check 50 Ohm Coax?
>Would a MFJ-259 HF analyzer & Resistance Meter be of any value in
>checking
>coax without the antennas attached?
>Thanks, Jack, KA8D
>
Jack,
Here's a copy of my previous posting on the subject. The MFJ analyzer
just doesn't read high enough values of swr to be useful (unless the
coax is _really_ bad).
There were some negative comments on this method. Some folks questioned
the accuracy, especially for _very_ low loss coax, with the antennas
still
connected. Some folks questioned the accuracy of the AEA and Autec
analyzers for high values of swr. It works for me, as verified by several
tests of brand new coax, using several different antennas. Measured
results agreed closely with the specification values for the new cable.
Of course, the procedure is even easier with the antennas disconnected.
In that case, you don't have to find a frequency where the swr peaks.
Any frequency will do, preferably toward the high end. 73.
Dave, K6LL
k6ll at juno.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's a quick method for checking
cable loss from inside the shack, with the antennas connected.
The basic concept was described somewhere in QST in the past few
years.
Plug your Autec or AEA analyzer into the feedline in the shack
and tune it to a frequency where it shows a peak SWR. At this
frequency, the antenna, whatever it is, will be a damn good
approximation (DGA) of an open or short circuit. The frequency
doesn't have to be in the ham bands. Start at 30 MHz and work
down. Plug the SWR into the following equation which is for
calculating loss in a shorted or open line:
SWR + 1
Loss in dB = 10 log ----------------------------------
SWR - 1
For example, suppose you find a peak in the SWR (7 to 1)
at 25 MHz.
8
loss = 10 log ------------------------
6
loss = 1.25 dB
All you have to do now is to figure out what the loss would be
in a brand new piece of coax of the same length at 25 MHz.
Just look it up in the coax charts, then decide if it's worth
while to replace the old cable with a new one.
Dave, K6LL
k6ll at juno.com
>From w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) Sat Jul 6 21:33:06 1996
From: w7ni at teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) (Stan Griffiths)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Towers: Misery Loves Company
Message-ID: <199607062033.NAA12452 at desiree.teleport.com>
>In a message dated 96-07-05 17:46:16 EDT, you write:
>
>>I can't believe what I think I am reading here. If the proposed legislation
>>goes through, it sounds like it will illegal for a community to prevent the
>>installation of an unsafe tower!! What am I missing? As the owner of 4
>>towers and a Rohn dealer, I could possibly benefit by such legislation but I
>>would NEVER favor it. Nobody should put up an unsafe tower and there should
>>be laws against it.
>
>Stan --
>
> Don't forget that they still have to get a permit with appropriate PE
>stamps on it before they can actually BUILD it. This legislation would be
>BEFORE the permit process to allow erection over the CC&Rs and possibly some
>zoning restrictions. I wouldn't mind piggybacking on the backs of the deep
>pockets of the telecommications companies - AT&T, Motorola, et.al.
>
> Sounds okay to me.
>
>73, Steve K7LXC
The way it was written, it sounded to me like the proposed legislation would
overide PE stamps, zoning, CC&Rs, building permits, inspections, and all and
simply delete any requirement to meet any safety criteria. That's why I was
struggling to believe what I was reading.
Stan w7ni at teleport.com
>From km0l at tyrell.net (Steve Lufcy) Sat Jul 6 22:03:13 1996
From: km0l at tyrell.net (Steve Lufcy) (Steve Lufcy)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:03:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: CW on the big screen
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960706154653.16835A-100000 at tyrell.net>
N8AAT noted ham radio (or at least morse code) shown in the movie
"Independence Day".
Also, in another summer blockbuster, "Phenomonon", on of the main
characters is a ham. The movie shows his typical ham shack complete with
QSL's pinned on the wall, junk everywhere, and him operating what appears
to be a TS-940. You could see a vertical on the roof. In the movie our
ham was a "good ol boy" and called cq for Dianna Ross (is she a ham?)-
but when they got down to business he went from ssb to cw with a straight
key. Our man was obvouisly not a contester- they gave him the call
WB6QLF- and judging from the way he handled the straight key I can see
why- hehe. This all added to my enjoyment of the fun movie and was
another nice PR promo for amateur radio, and cw. Maybe that same friend
of amateur radio was writing for this movie also.
C U all in IARU- 73 de KM0L Steve in KC
>From kj4vh at iglou.com (Tim Totten, KJ4VH) Sat Jul 6 23:24:34 1996
From: kj4vh at iglou.com (Tim Totten, KJ4VH) (Tim Totten, KJ4VH)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:24:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tower regulation/RF exposure
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960706181009.16165C-100000 at iglou>
I think there's some confusion. From what I recall of the recent WSJ
article (too bad I didn't save it), there was some discussion abt how the
tower regulation provisions of the new Telecom Act have not been as
effective as the PCS/cellular industry had hoped. Recent court rulings
such as the infamous one in Medina, WA have somewhat disheartened the
industry. I'm sure they'd like to see more effective legislation, but I
don't know of any draft language that's out there yet.
Attached is the relevant section of the Telecom Act. Note that amateur
radio is clearly NOT included in the provisions. One of the key points is
that no local govt is allowed to regulate PCS/cellular towers on the basis
of RF exposure safety issues.
But here's the frightening part--the FCC is now required to promulgate new
rules for RF exposure standards within the next month or so. With such a
paucity of really good medical data, there's no telling what standards the
FCC might adopt. I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more press because I
think there's at least a moderate chance the FCC's new rules could have an
impact on CONTEST stations.
We'll just have to wait and see. Having spent much of the last couple
years on M Street, I've stopped trying to outguess the Federal Cash Cow.
See y'all at WRTC!
73,
Tim Totten, KJ4VH kj4vh at iglou.com
KJ4VH Home Page - http://www.iglou.com/kj4vh/
----------
S.652
Telecommunications Act of 1996 (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President))
SEC. 704. FACILITIES SITING; RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSION STANDARDS.
(a) NATIONAL WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS SITING POLICY- Section 332(c)
(47 U.S.C. 332(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following
new paragraph:
`(7) PRESERVATION OF LOCAL ZONING AUTHORITY-
`(A) GENERAL AUTHORITY- Except as provided in this
paragraph, nothing in this Act shall limit or affect the
authority of a State or local government or
instrumentality thereof over decisions regarding the
placement, construction, and modification of personal
wireless service facilities.
`(B) LIMITATIONS-
`(i) The regulation of the placement, construction, and
modification of personal wireless service
facilities by any State or local government or
instrumentality thereof--
`(I) shall not unreasonably discriminate among
providers of functionally equivalent services;
and
`(II) shall not prohibit or have the effect of
prohibiting the provision of personal wireless
services.
`(ii) A State or local government or instrumentality
thereof shall act on any request for authorization
to place, construct, or modify personal wireless
service facilities within a reasonable period of
time after the request is duly filed with such
government or instrumentality, taking into account
the nature and scope of such request.
`(iii) Any decision by a State or local government or
instrumentality thereof to deny a request to place,
construct, or modify personal wireless service
facilities shall be in writing and supported by
substantial evidence contained in a written record.
`(iv) No State or local government or instrumentality
thereof may regulate the placement, construction,
and modification of personal wireless service
facilities on the basis of the environmental
effects of radio frequency emissions to the extent
that such facilities comply with the Commission's
regulations concerning such emissions.
`(v) Any person adversely affected by any final action
or failure to act by a State or local government or
any instrumentality thereof that is inconsistent
with this subparagraph may, within 30 days after
such action or failure to act, commence an action
in any court of competent jurisdiction. The court
shall hear and decide such action on an expedited
basis. Any person adversely affected by an act or
failure to act by a State or local government or
any instrumentality thereof that is inconsistent
with clause (iv) may petition the Commission for
relief.
`(C) DEFINITIONS- For purposes of this paragraph--
`(i) the term `personal wireless services' means
commercial mobile services, unlicensed wireless
services, and common carrier wireless exchange
access services;
`(ii) the term `personal wireless service facilities'
means facilities for the provision of personal
wireless services; and
`(iii) the term `unlicensed wireless service' means the
offering of telecommunications services using duly
authorized devices which do not require individual
licenses, but does not mean the provision of
direct-to-home satellite services (as defined in
section 303(v)).'.
(b) RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS- Within 180 days after the enactment of
this Act, the Commission shall complete action in ET Docket 93-62
to prescribe and make effective rules regarding the environmental
effects of radio frequency emissions.
(c) AVAILABILITY OF PROPERTY- Within 180 days of the enactment of this
Act, the President or his designee shall prescribe procedures by
which Federal departments and agencies may make available on a
fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory basis, property,
rights-of-way, and easements under their control for the placement
of new telecommunications services that are dependent, in whole or
in part, upon the utilization of Federal spectrum rights for the
transmission or reception of such services.
>From silver at ax.apc.org (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira) Sat Jul 6 23:25:10 1996
From: silver at ax.apc.org (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira) (Carlos Augusto Silveira Pereira)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:25:10 -0300
Subject: YAGI INSTALLATION
Message-ID: <199607062225.TAA01265 at ax.ibase.br>
Dear friends,
I am very close to raise my Triband Yagi for 10-15-20 meters, however I have a question:
- I intend to put my 2 meters yagi (11 ele. with vertical polarization) on the top of the mast. What distance must exist between the triband beam and the VHF yagi?
Hope to work you all with my new antenna in the next CQWW!!
73,
Carlos - PY1CAS
E-mails: "silver at ax.apc.org" or "csilver at riosoft.softex.br"
>From beaton at wintermute.co.uk (Alastair Beaton) Sun Jul 7 00:02:50 1996
From: beaton at wintermute.co.uk (Alastair Beaton) (Alastair Beaton)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 00:02:50 +0100
Subject: 80m directional antennas
Message-ID: <199607062302.AAA16856 at oberon.wintermute.co.uk>
Hi folks,
Freely plundering the resource that is this reflector, I'd like to know your
views and experiences of fixed directional (tx/rx) antennas for 80m (for
CQWW). The system will be temporary, pointing at continental US. We have
plenty of space, but lack the hardware to go much above 70ft.
Do we go for a broadside vertical array? Or should we be looking at some
kind of wire beam / line of dipoles? Or something else entirely? At present
we use a simple delta loop, apex at 75ft. Both practical and theoretical
ruminations are welcome.
73
Al, GM4BAP
North of Scotland Contest Group - GM4DMZ
GM6V in 1996 CQWW SSB and CW Contests
>From ni6t at scruznet.com (Garry Shapiro) Sun Jul 7 10:53:27 1996
From: ni6t at scruznet.com (Garry Shapiro) (Garry Shapiro)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:53:27 -0700
Subject: CW on the big screen
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960706154653.16835A-100000 at tyrell.net>
Message-ID: <31DF8917.125C at scruznet.com>
Steve Lufcy wrote:
>
> N8AAT noted ham radio (or at least morse code) shown in the movie
> "Independence Day".
> Also, in another summer blockbuster, "Phenomonon", on of the main
> characters is a ham. The movie shows his typical ham shack complete with
> QSL's pinned on the wall, junk everywhere, and him operating what appears
> to be a TS-940. You could see a vertical on the roof. In the movie our
> ham was a "good ol boy" and called cq for Dianna Ross (is she a ham?)-
> but when they got down to business he went from ssb to cw with a straight
> key. Our man was obvouisly not a contester- they gave him the call
> WB6QLF- and judging from the way he handled the straight key I can see
> why- hehe. This all added to my enjoyment of the fun movie and was
> another nice PR promo for amateur radio, and cw. Maybe that same friend
> of amateur radio was writing for this movie also.
> C U all in IARU- 73 de KM0L Steve in KC
Steve:
I thought that was a gag call--QLF meaning, as most of us know, "Now send
with your LEFT foot." But, in fact, in belongs to an Advanced class
licensee in Ventura, CA.
So was that HIS station you saw? At least he has a decent CONTEST radio,
if not effective antennas.
Garry, NI6T
--
"Alternating currents are dangerous. They are fit only for
powering the electric chair."
-- Thomas A. Edison
Garry Shapiro, NI6T
Editor, "The DXer"
--monthly bulletin of the Northern California DX Club
>From hugh at diac.com (Hugh Phillips - KR7Y) Sun Jul 7 04:26:01 1996
From: hugh at diac.com (Hugh Phillips - KR7Y) (Hugh Phillips - KR7Y)
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 21:26:01 -0600
Subject: Mosley Pro-96, Yaesu G-2800SDX Rotor
Message-ID: <31DF2E49.32CD at diac.com>
I just aquired a Mosley Pro-96 and a Yaesu G-2800sdx rotor. If anybody
has had any problems with either or may have a suggestion regarding
either of them, I would appreciate any info. I managed to get them both
far below there real value.
73,
Hugh >>>---> KR7Y
>From oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) Sun Jul 7 04:44:55 1996
From: oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:44:55 -0500
Subject: Kenwood remote vfo
Anyone have a manual for the remote VFO-230? Our club station uses
a TS-830 with remove vfo-230 and after many years of use the rig and
vfo are suddenly not communicating. The vfo looks as if it's doing
its thing, but the "main" light stays on when the 'vfo' one comes on
and there's no effect on the 830's frequency. The connecting cable
checks out OK (i.e. corresponding pins are connected, no shorts).
We'd like to get this fixed by next weekend's IARU C-O-N-T-E-S-T, and
have the manual for the 830 but not the vfo. If you have stuff for
the vfo and would be willing to copy and mail at my expense, please
send me e-mail first. If you have brilliant suggestions for where
to look for the problem, ditto. I've looked inside both units for
obvious burns, loose wires, but that's about the extent of my expertise.
There sure is more stuff inside that remove vfo than I had imagined!
Thanks for any help, and best wishes to all WRTC participants next
weekend -
Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu
>From WB2JSJ at vbi.champlain.edu (Mitchell Stern) Sun Jul 7 03:24:07 1996
From: WB2JSJ at vbi.champlain.edu (Mitchell Stern) (Mitchell Stern)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 2:24:07 -4-1
Subject: Heathkit SB-200
Message-ID: <9607070217.41df5689.CCC at vbi.champlain.edu>
Thank you to all who took the time to send ideas on getting parts
to fix a Heath SB-200 amp.
I got the power supply retrofit kit from Harbach Electronics in
FL and installed it and brought an old amp back to life. Even
getting a little bit more CW power out, due to stiffer power
supply regulation.
73, Mitch WB2JSJ
>From okanep at iol.ie (Paul O'Kane, EI5DI) Sun Jul 7 11:32:04 1996
From: okanep at iol.ie (Paul O'Kane, EI5DI) (Paul O'Kane, EI5DI)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:32:04 +0100 (BST)
Subject: WRTC-96 / IARU HF Championship 13/14 July
Message-ID: <199607071032.LAA29176 at GPO.iol.ie>
To score the IARU HF Championship according to the
WRTC (World Radiosport Team Championship) rules, and
see how you stack up against the official teams, SDW
(Super-Duper for WRTC) is available, as freeware, by
anonymous ftp.
ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/okanep/sd/sd-wrtc.zip
Differences from IARU rules and scoring are.
* Both ITU Zone and DXCC country multipliers.
* Operation on 10, 15, 20, 40m only - 18 hours max.
2 operators max.
* Mixed-mode, with double points on CW.
* Equipment restricted to 100 watts and a tribander
for 10,15,20.
* No packet, no computer networking, no rig control
from logging software. (CW from logging software
is permitted).
73,
Paul EI5DI
>From n1mm at usa.pipeline.com (Tom Wagner) Sun Jul 7 14:30:43 1996
From: n1mm at usa.pipeline.com (Tom Wagner) (Tom Wagner)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:30:43 GMT
Subject: How do I fix a Hy-Gain Balun?
Message-ID: <199607071330.NAA04907 at pipe5.t1.usa.pipeline.com>
Last winter, my rotor came apart and my TH-7 started
"windmilling". This pulled coax out of the balun that
comes with the antenna. There is a SO-239 type
connecter in it and the threaded sleeve pulled away
from the bottom of the connector, leaving the center
insulator.
The balun enclosure is made of plastic, and seems to be
glued together. I am at a loss as how to repair
the SO-239 without destroying the plastic enclosure.
Has anyone had this problem with their CONTEST
station and found a good way to fix it? If you had
to destroy the plastic enclosure, what did you to
replace it?
Thanks!
73,
Tom - N1MM
>From n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten) Sun Jul 7 14:58:32 1996
From: n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten) (Bob Patten)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: How do I fix a Hy-Gain Balun?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960707094709.26863A-100000 at hyper>
On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Tom Wagner wrote:
> Last winter, my rotor came apart and my TH-7 started
> "windmilling". This pulled coax out of the balun that
> comes with the antenna. There is a SO-239 type
> connecter in it and the threaded sleeve pulled away
> from the bottom of the connector, leaving the center
> insulator.
>
Tom, I was able to pry the case apart at the glued seams with a minimum
of damage. However, I ended up replacing mine with a "current balun". I
burned out two of the BN-86 baluns that come with the TH7-DXX proving
that it will not withstand the legal limit of power. A current balun
only costs the price of eight feet of RG-213 coax. Simply coil up the
eight feet into six turns and tape it or secure with tie wraps. Put a
PL259 on one end to splice it to your existing feedline. Seperate the
braid and center conductor on the other end and connect to the straps that
the BN-86 formerly were bolted to. This setup has withstood my AL-1500
for over a year and appears to provide every bit as much isolation as
the BN-86 did. For more details, if needed, check the ARRL Antenna Book.
Bob Patten, N4BP
n4bp at shadow.net
>From cshinn at connect.net (charles d. shinn) Sun Jul 7 18:14:28 1996
From: cshinn at connect.net (charles d. shinn) (charles d. shinn)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:14:28 -0700
Subject: Antennas
Message-ID: <01BB6BED.1C587140 at a1p04.connect.net>
Has anyone had any practical experience with fractal antenna design? =
There is
an artical in this months DX Magazine that gives a very brief =
description of a simple fractal design.....one that should (if true) =
could prove a boon to city lot contesters-gain on the low bands! Is =
there any rotatable applications of this design? Will it work in =
parasitic arrays? My curiosity has been piqued....Thanks for reading =
this ....Chuck W7MAP
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