Fwd: Is it me, or...

[SteveWS4F at aol.com]

Hi Gene-

I agree with your cogent comments completely.  I, for one, am very tired of
KB1GW's snotty and totally misguided attempts to police the contents of this
reflector and discourage open discussion of issues which clearly _are_
contest related and important.

73,

Steve, WS4F
stevews4f at aol.com
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Forwarded message:
From:	ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com (Dr. Eugene Zimmerman)
Sender:	owner-cq-contest at tgv.com
Reply-to:	ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com (Dr. Eugene Zimmerman)
To:	gswanson at arrl.org (cSwanson, Glenn, KB1GW)
CC:	cq-contest at tgv.com ('CQ-Contest (posting)')
Date: 96-03-14 09:41:56 EST

Glenn

I dont understand how your examples indicate that

> . . .  this reflector getting to the point where it resembles...
> 
> "rec.radio.amateur.misc" ??

If discussion of WRTC (positive OR negative) is NOT appropriate for a 
CONTEST reflector, where should this be discussed?  WRTC purports to 
determine the best contesters in the world in a head to head combat that 
eliminates as many variables as possible.  In 1990, the winners were K1AR 
and K1DG.  The format must be pretty good because I doubt that any 
readers of this reflector would argue that those two worthy gentlemen 
(and I use the term advisedly) should not be ranked at the very top of the 
list of contesters.

And what do you mean by

>      . . . .  (non-radio-related) government policy,. . . . .?

Give us a specific example.

As far as

>      . . . . .  What's next: No-code pros and cons?

if that discussion involves how no-code licensees might become 
contesters, it certainly would be appropriate for this reflector.  I will 
be discussing just that subject in relation to VHF contesting in an 
upcoming column in CQ VHF.

Trey Garlough, who administers this reflector, does an admirable job of 
telling people who post non-contest subjects that the posts are not 
appropriate (mostly privately, I suspect).  That does not happen often but it
does happen.  When the bandwidth is overfilled with an important subject 
like contest score reports, we have been given alternatives like the 3830 
reflector to reduce the load (thanks - Bill Fisher).

I for one am not at all disturbed by the range of subjects that are 
covered on this reflector.  Who knows, maybe we might learn something 
interesting and useful.  And it's good for the mind.

73  Gene  W3ZZ



>From aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Thu Mar 14 14:54:54 1996
From: aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:54:54 -0400
Subject: Re[2]: Rohn 25G Summary
Message-ID: <v01540b01ad6de1794951@[206.28.194.40]>

>de N4XY:
>
>> Reading this I wondered why someone didn't measure tension by measuring
>> the force required for a given perpendicular deflection of the wire
>> under tension?
>
>It seems to me that a widget to measure exactly that is made for
>tensioning the
>standing rigging on sail boats.  An old friend with a trailerable boat was
>telling me about his aquisition of just such an instrument -- but I wasn't
>listening very carefully...  Any sailors out there want to comment?

I'm no sailor, but there is such a instrument used to test the tension on
aircraft control cables using perpendicular deflection. However, I doubt
these instruments are in the correct range of tension. Most light aircraft
use phenolic pulleys in their cable control systems, and I doubt they would
withstand 400 pounds of pressure. 40 pounds of tension is more like it. Of
course, this is for 1/8 inch cable (or so), so it may not apply as well to
tower guys, which are typically larger.

Speaking of cross-application of technology, rather than swaging the ends
of guys, couldn't you just get a huge Nicopress tool and use that? Seems
good enough for aircraft....

Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at radio.org
Quote: "Not in a thousand years will man ever fly!"
            -- Wilbur Wright, 1901