Beverages and horizontal orientation

W8JITom at aol.com W8JITom at aol.com
Wed Mar 20 22:33:14 EST 1996


Forwarded from K1VR at his request:
>
>> > I know more recently K1ZM Jeff has commented that his 4-square
>> >outhears the beverages regularly because of the better f/b ratio.
>>
>> I believe that! Beverages and other long wire arrays have very poor
>directive
>> gain when compared to a two element end fire arrays, even if the
Beverage's
>> current taper (from ground losses) isn't included in the model! The four
>> square should be better, unless it's near a noise source!
>>
>> But Beverages are cheap and very easy to install, not everyone has phased
>> antennas or very high dipoles. They are very good antennas for the effort
>> required.
>
>Additional real world input:
>
>W1CF had a four square on 80, and a 2 element vertical
>phased array on 160.  He also had an 800 foot Beverage aimed
>at Eu.  The Beverage was never better than the four sqaure
>on 80.  On 160, if there was noise from thunderstorms to the
>South, the Beverage was better, if not, he preferred the 2
>element vertical phased array.  On the other hand, he always
>preferred the Beverage to listening to EU on his 120 foot
>high 160m inverted vee dipole.
>
>At K1VR, I have a two element vertical phased array on 80.
>On a quiet night, the vertical array is better to EU.  When
>I have noise to the South, the Beverage is better (for
>listening to EU).  On 160, I load my tower as a single
>element vertical, and the Beverage (only 385' long) is
>better to EU if there is almost any noise at all.
>
>All of these field examples are consistent with previously
>reported experience.
>-- 
>                      Fred Hopengarten K1VR
>           Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
>     home + office telephone:  617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
>                   internet:  k1vr at k1vr.jjm.com
>            "Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
>                       than small ones, low."
>



>From Doug Grant <0006008716 at mcimail.com>  Thu Mar 21 03:58:00 1996
From: Doug Grant <0006008716 at mcimail.com> (Doug Grant)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 22:58 EST
Subject: Paging WX0B & VS6WO...
Message-ID: <04960321035840/0006008716DC2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>


Sorry for the bandwidth, but Email to my most current addresses for these guys
bounced, and I can't find another way to reach them.

Jay, Steve - please send me your current Email addresses.

We need to confirm your participation in the Dayton CONTEST Forum...

Doug  K1DG
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>From oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)  Thu Mar 21 05:06:25 1996
From: oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:06:25 -0600
Subject: RULES:  TQP 96

	>>Texas Wine Baskets and plaques to top class finishers.

This is very unpatriotic of me, I know, but I'd shoot for the plaques.
I drink almost any wine, but the only wine I've ever poured down the 
sink was Texas wine, and I'm not sure what it did to the sink.  It 
tasted of oil (Ah mean "all").   Perhaps when you pay more than $5 
a bottle it gets better.

Or perhaps it's "Winner gets bottle of TX wine, runners-up get two".

Oh well, just feeling mean cos I still haven't received my T-shirt 
for the CA QSO Party yet.

Derek "not a Real Texan" AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu



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