CQWW & 7 MHz - A Suggestion

Sjolin at aol.com Sjolin at aol.com
Sun Nov 3 02:39:35 EST 1996

In a message dated 96-11-02 10:51:23 EST, syam at Glue.umd.edu (De Syam) writes:

<< > I don't think this would get a very positive response from the Qrpers
 > or from the digital gang. The Rtty, amtor, pactor and packet people are
 > already fighting amongst themselves for the space between 7075 - 7095.
 And according to the IARU Region 2 Bandplan they're not supposed to be
 there at all! >>

Hi Fred,

And according to ARRL Bandplan, 7080 - 7100 is digital. 

There are just too many bandplans and not enough bandwidth!!  It's so mixed
up, I once got an Official Observer citation for working dx in a rtty contest
on around 7040 (Dx RTTY frequency); despite fact that 7040 is listed as
frequency for rtty dx and rtty is legal up to atleast 7150 (if not 7300, but
who would want to operate up there).

Unless we get more bandwidth (e.g., move Novice segment to 30 meters) I guess
we will just have to learn to share the spectrum.  On phone test weekends,
the segment goes to ssb. During Rtty contests, to goes to Rtty. During CW
contests it goes to cw. The Qrpers get their segment during the week and on
non contest weekends. And if P5 or VK0H show up, all bets are off.

73 de Dave, N0IT

>From ik0hbn at isa.it ( IK0HBN )  Sun Nov  3 08:15:25 1996
From: ik0hbn at isa.it ( IK0HBN ) ( IK0HBN )
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:15:25 +0100
Subject: Help for Orion 2800
Message-ID: < at net.isa.it>

This message was posted a lot of days ago, but only NZ0V, Rob answered me:
He was in the same my boat. Are there, among you, Ladies and Gentlemen who
resolved our problem before? Any way to contact M2 via E-mail?
Thank you!

Hi everybody.
I could like linking my Orion 2800 rotator to my computer to use it with the
"Shift+F10" option of CT (automatic beaming of antennas). Manual of rotator
speaks about of linking to RS232 port, but I have not the wiring schematic.
Socket on rotator control box is a female DB9 and I have to link it to a
male DB25 on computer. Any idea?
Thanks since now.

Localita' Saineta, 3
01030 Bassano in Teverina (VT) Italy
home telephone: +39 (0) 761-407543  (FAX on request)
E-mail: ik0hbn at isa.it
packet adr: IK0HBN at I0INU.IUMB.ITA.EU
DX cluster : IK0HBN > I0JBL-6

>From ik0hbn at isa.it ( IK0HBN )  Sun Nov  3 08:15:32 1996
From: ik0hbn at isa.it ( IK0HBN ) ( IK0HBN )
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 09:15:32 +0100
Message-ID: < at net.isa.it>

Hi everybody!
Tomorrow, for the next 3 days till wednesday, I will be in NICE (NIZZA) for
job. I could like to meet other friends who like contesting and DXing.
Please reply via direct mail and I will give you address of hotel and phone
See you there.
Ciao Sante

Localita' Saineta, 3
01030 Bassano in Teverina (VT) Italy
home telephone: +39 (0) 761-407543  (FAX on request)
E-mail: ik0hbn at isa.it
packet adr: IK0HBN at I0INU.IUMB.ITA.EU
DX cluster : IK0HBN > I0JBL-6

>From mats.persson at mbox2.swipnet.se (SM7PKK)  Sun Nov  3 09:40:26 1996
From: mats.persson at mbox2.swipnet.se (SM7PKK) (SM7PKK)
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 10:40:26 +0100
Subject: CQWW & 7 MHz - A Suggestion
Message-ID: <3.0b36.32.19961103103759.00715634 at mailbox.swip.net>

Hi all,

If it would turn out that any P5 or VK0H would turn into a continous pileup

all over then I must say those guys who went should have stayed home.

Why make it more difficult than it is. The fact is we have bandplans made up=
 by the IARU

ok so they are different in different regions. Ok in some coutries the=
 bandplan isn't law, in others it is.

I wonder how contesters and DXers have survived the last 20 years or so=
 using the bandplans we have

 and even worked countries in other regions. Gee they must have learned=
 something others can't.

It is only during these last 2 -3 years that the situation has become more=
 crazy than ever.

Now is this due to old experienced operators getting memory lapses or is it=
 newer operators

who need to be taught how to use the bands.

Obviously people have learned how to use split to utilize the bands this=
 way. Why not learn the bandplan=20

of the other regions aswell!!!!!!! Atleast people who go on DX-peditions=
 will have to do this or they=20

will end up in the wrong segments.=20

The CQWW committe must take their responsability to take this problem of=
 people going outside the

bandplan serious and enforce the rules we have and if they are not enough=
 make a rule that will cover the issue. CQWW is a great contest but right=
 now people are turning it into a chaos in which the CQWW will get a bad=
 reputation among all others on the ham-bands.

It is not very smart for a US station to call split listening on 7017 during=
 CQWW. Ok he can maybe work the G-stations who obviously is not breaking the=
 law but what about the other countries in EU. There are several who is not=
 allowed by law to be there. Well I assume the station listening on 7017=
 will not win as he will anyhow loose out on too many Multipliers.

The more people breaking the recomendations by IARU the more problems we are=
 creating for ourselves


The IARU are working to get us more space on 40M. But we do have competition=
 about the bands

and while we have the bands we do we must make use of them the best way we=
 can in a manner so that=20

people not interested in a contest still can work the bands. Or why are most=
 of us otherwise against the nets

on the QRG's, they spread out blocking the bands and it seems some contester=
 think we have to blocke the bands for others aswell.

We have bandsplans USE THEM!

73 de Mats SM7PKK


SM7PKK			E-mail: mats.persson at mbox2.swipnet.se

Mats Persson		The SM7PKK DX-Pedition Site-



Sweden			CW !!

P.S My logs are open forever.. ever.. ever..

I do not want to receive any MAILORDER offers of any kind to my e-mail


>From pib2822 at iperbole.bologna.it (Claudio Veroli I4VEQ)  Sun Nov  3 11:37:56 1996
From: pib2822 at iperbole.bologna.it (Claudio Veroli I4VEQ) (Claudio Veroli I4VEQ)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:37:56 +0100
Subject: IQ4A CQWW SSB 96 story and QSL INFO
Message-ID: <199611031137.MAA21824 at ghost.iperbole.bologna.it>

                       CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST -- 1996
           Call: IQ4A                     Country:  Italy
           Mode: SSB                      Category: Multi Single
           Location: Monte Capra 444 meters asl near Bologna.
           Club affiliation: MCC Marconi Contest Club   

     Score is on 3830 reflector.

     Operator List: 
     I4VEQ,  Claudio Veroli
     I4TJE,  Paolo Giannasi
     IK2NCJ, Luca Aliprandi
     I4IKW,  Marco Venturi

     Multipliers stations:
     I4EAT, Fausto Minardi (Low Bands)
     I4LCK, Franco Armenghi (10 meters)
     I4AVG, Franco Aviani   (80 meters)
     IK4MGP Fulvio Tumidei  (low bands)
     IK4QJH Giancarlo Gnudi (Low bands & PCL Control)     
     I4IKW, Marco Venturi    (160 meters)
     IK4EWK Marco De Vietro (20 & 15 Meters, data managment)
     IK4DCT Davide Capelli   (High Bands)
     IK4XQH Fabio Marzaduri   (High Bands)
     Data managment and technical support:
     I4IND  Francesco Chiodini 
     IK4CZF Casimiro Adani
     I4PVP  Giancarlo Pavirani
     IW4ANU Giorgio Tovoli
     Equipment Description:
     Runner: FT1000,IC751, & PA 
     Alternative Runner IC781,IC761 and PA
     10 meters: IC781, IC765 and Henry PA
     40 meters: IC781 and PA 4CX1500
     80 meters: IC781, IC765 & Henry PA
     160 meters: FT990 & TL922
     2 PC's running CT program for Runner station
     10 PC's network with IK4EWK software for multiplier stations  

     Packet:     Via Internet from USA
                 DB0BCC, DB0OVA, DB0SDX from Germany
                 T77T from San Marino & IK2GZU from Italy 
     160:  Shunt feed tower 25 meters, dipoles 
     80 :  4 1/4 phased verticals & dipoles 
     40:   3 ele yagi at 22 meters, loop 
     20:   4 ele yagi & 4 el. quad      
     15:   6 el. yagi & 4 el. quad
     10:   5 ele yagi & 4 el. quad 
     all antennas have indipentent rotation and separate towers
     The contest story:
After we won the CQWW M/S category in WWDX CW 94 and SSB 95 I was not sure
that propagation would help us again so much as it was happened 
in the last two years. We well know that we have no chances against the
great M/S stations from South America and Caribbean.
In this situation is not easy to find the concentration that we need 
to do a new great effort, but our goal has been always a good places in EU;
anyway propagation helps us again and we found unbelieveable conditions on
high bands, just a little below the last year so I think our score will be
good in Europe.
Low bands were amazing for the great numbers of multipliers available, we
lost a lot of its waiting for the 10 minutes rule and for our poor 160
meters antenna....but it was really possible to work more then 100 countries
on 6 bands.
Band summary:

160: We lost a lot of multipliers, our poor antenna and short windows opening
does not match the 10 minutes rules. We done just a little better then last
year with the same working conditions. We will try to have better ears in
but our QTH on an hilltop sorrounded by woods doesn't give us the
possibility to put on any beverage antennas. 

80: Till last year it was very difficult to reach the 100 countries on this
now we are at 115 and we don't use it as running band, almost impossible to
find a frequency free. We received a great help from Fabio IG9/I4UFH lets us
to work new multipliers on his frequency. Franco I4AVG, our 80 meters man
was very tired, but a great time was had by him.

40:Always a great band for us, impossible to listen on our transmitting
frequency, nice
US pile up during the first night, work US pile up on  split at 150 QSO/hour
is really a good rate.

20:The best runner band this year. Nice opening in the morning to Pacific
over the long path, and nice US pile up in the evening, better on Sunday.

15:Another very good year for 15 meters, not like 1995 (2300 QSOs), but with
very good opening to east (JA, VK and Asia) and afternoon pile up from US
(zone 5 and 4), only N6AW from the zone 3 during Sunday afternoon when
signals from US were just a little bit stronger then Saturday.

10: Certainly the most captivating band, with short opening to east (VK,
VS6, XX9, VU..), some sporadic E signals from EU, and good African station
on the band.
Weak signals from south America and Carabbean and it was very difficult to
work them 
thru the US pile up. Incredible 10 minutes open to US on Sunday, we
immediatly change the runner band on 10, just to log 26 US station from zone
5 only.
What a band....!!!!

Thanks to all who called, and moved from one band to another on our request.
Special thanks also to our friends members of the MCC (Marconi Contest
Club), who
gave us a great help on the low bands from IG9.
See you on CW at the end of November.

A new & nice QSL card, with our antennas,  is available.

IQ4A QSL INFO for Phone contacts is via:

                  IK4QJH Giancarlo Gnudi
                         Via Valgattara 35
                         40063 Monghidoro BO ITALY

IQ4A QSL INFO for CW contacts is via: 

                  I4LCK Franco Armenghi
                        Via Jussi 9
                        40068 San Lazzaro di Savena BO ITALY

or via ARI QSL bureau. 

73 de Claudio I4VEQ.

>From wfeidt at cpcug.org (Bill Feidt)  Sun Nov  3 12:20:10 1996
From: wfeidt at cpcug.org (Bill Feidt) (Bill Feidt)
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 07:20:10 -0500
Subject: CQWW Contest Info
Message-ID: < at cpcug.org>

Courtesy of John, K4BAI:

  The correct 1996 QSL route for 8P9Z, in both the SSB and
  CW renditions of CQWW is: K4BAI.

A reminder that 1996 CQWW CW announced operation and QSL
route information is available on the Web at:


Corrections and additions are sought and may be E-mailed
to NG3K (Bill) at: 

 wfeidt at cpcug.org

I'm also still updating the SSB version, so if you have
any corrections, please send them along.

Best wishes to all,

wfeidt at cpcug.org

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