K2NNY in NNY for Phone Sweeps !!!

Paul Mackanos k2db at frontiernet.net
Sat Nov 9 23:44:07 EST 1996


Well the Vanity call came in, a few days late for the CW Sweeps, but in
plenty of time for the SSB Sweeps. Look for KILO TWO NORTHERN NEW YORK
in the contest next weekend !!

 For those of you who have not updated your logging software, please DO
it before the contest, I have been told by a few ops that when they
logged us last weekend, their software rejected, and even CRASHED a few
of the programs.
 You need to ADD the NNY SECTION !!!!

cya there

73 de K2NNY

>From ac1o at gate.net (Walter Deemer)  Sun Nov 10 00:16:13 1996
From: ac1o at gate.net (Walter Deemer) (Walter Deemer)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 19:16:13 -0500
Subject: 40 Meters In The SS, Etc.
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961110001613.00d0e610 at pop.gate.net>

Re: 40 meters in the SS.  I had an all-time "personal best" CW SS hour from
0309-0408Z on 40 meters: 79 Q's.  (Remember, I run low power.)  I found a
hole up around 7.070 and just kept getting answers to my CQ's; most from the
W2-3-8 "heartland", but an occasional West Coast station, too.  Since I kept
trying to find other good run frequencies all weekend, and never came
anywhere near that response rate again, it must have been conditions.

Re: QRP stations in the SS.  I, too, was happily suprised by the number of
QRP contacts in this year's SS -- but I found a sizable number of them
calling me off-frequency.  Even with tight filters, big off-frequency
signals still usually manage to get through, but off-frequency QRPers, it
seems to me, are operating with two strikes against them.

Re: SS in general.  The tone was set for me early.  I lucked out finding
VY1JA VERY early -- and a REAL KL7 answered my CQ on the bottom of 20
shortly thereafter; except for Wyoming, section-sweating on Sunday was not
the big problem this year.  Getting an "A" precedent early on from KR0Y and
N4ZZ was.

Re: The Rationale Behind My New Call.  I agreed with WC4E (who was almost
alone) that a 2x1 call would be a lot more distinctive than a new 1x2 (and,
anyway, someone has to keep the WPX interesting for all you 1x2's).  We'll
see -- but KN4T DOES sound kinda neat on CW (and is 33% shorter than AC1O,
too!)  BTW: KN4T was my first choice (not #25, as one kind soul sympathized.)  

73, Walt, KN4T (ex-AC1O)
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>From broz at csn.net (John Brosnahan)  Sat Nov  9 15:55:05 1996
From: broz at csn.net (John Brosnahan) (John Brosnahan)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:55:05 -0600
Subject: oh-oh an OO!
Message-ID: <199611091653.AA14526 at ns-1.csn.net>

RE: operation near the band edges


Doesn't matter where your VFO is set.  What is important is where your RF signal
is.  On lower sideband with a 2.4 KHz wide filter the suppressed carrier is
set about 
300 Hz above the filter bandpass.  This results in a ssb signal that runs
from about
-300 Hz from the carrier (display) frequency to about -2700 Hz from the carrier 
frequency.  And this is only for components that are 3dB down which is the
way the
filter bandwidth is described (2.4 KHz at the -3 dB points).  Depending on the
shape factor of the filter (and your signal strength at the OO) you should
always
be more than 3 KHz above the lower band edge for lsb and more than 3 KHz
below the upper band edge on usb.  Probably more than 3 KHz since typical
filters
don't have shape factors that are all that great.

So far it sounds like all of the OO reports were well justified!  (Just wish
they
were enough to disqualify my competitors.)

Maybe a refresher course in the FCC rules and SSB theory is indicated.

73  John  W0UN


-----------------------------
>From the ARRL Publication "The FCC Rule Book--Guide to the FCC Regulations"
9th edition, p. 9-1 and 9-2.

Q.  I am an active HF phone DXer.  How close to the band edge can I set my VFO?

A.  Many factors are involved.    Amateurs commonly consider full-carrier
double-sideband AM signals to be about 6 KHz wide and single-sideband,
suppressed-carrier signals to be about 3 KHz wide.  Yes, but those 
bandwidths are probably about only 6 dB down, and that isn't what the FCC
worries about.  Thus, to determine where you may set your VFO in relation 
to the edge of the band or band subband edge for your class of license, you'll
have to figure out where your signal is attenuated 40 dB.  Don't just assume
that if your SSB transmitter bandwidth is 3 KHz, then just add a few hundred
Hz to be safe.  That may be fine, if the shape of the band-limiting filter is 
sharp enough to attenuate the signal from -6 to -40 dB.  If you're going to
operate as near as possible to a band edge, then do so after carefully reviewing
your equipment specifications if they include such information.  Another
alternative
is to carefully measure the attenuation if you have access to top-notch lab
equipment.  If you can't do either, then allow a margin of safety for possible 
inaccuracy of your frequency readout.  ****(Here I disagree--you need to add TWO
margins of safety, one for the inability to accurately characterize your
sideband
signal at the -40 dB point and a second one for the VFO inaccuracies.)
        Remember, your carrier and all of your sidebands must be confined within
the amateur bands and subbands as appicable.


(You mean you DON'T have a copy of the FCC rules?)


John Brosnahan   W0UN
24115 County Road 40
La Salle, CO 80645

Log Padding is a NON-CONTACT sport!  (W0UA)


>From ng0x at ricochet.net (Dave Curtis)  Sat Nov  9 21:44:27 1996
From: ng0x at ricochet.net (Dave Curtis) (Dave Curtis)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 13:44:27 -0800
Subject: Vanity: some raw data
Message-ID: <3284FB3B.2DE2 at ricochet.net>

The attached data is presented without comment.
Draw your own conclusions.
73, Dave N6NZ

 NEW CALL CLS   EL  OLD CALL  NAME               QTH            ST
 
 W0AE C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6GS C F KD6VWK ORANGE COUNTY GSA AMATEUR RADIO CLUB SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
 K6HF C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 AE6QC C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 AE6J C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 K6TT C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W2JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W5JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 WR6J C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 N2CW C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6USA C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 N6SJC C F KD6VWK MISSION AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 
 W6AAA C F AA6KT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AMATEUR RADIO ORG LA MIRADA CA
 W6BAH C F AA6KT GOLDEN STATE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6BUG C F AA6KT DOODLEBUG AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 K5HO C F AA6KT WATERTOWN AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY LA MIRADA CA
 W6NNN C F AA6KT LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO ORGANIZATION LA MIRADA CA
 WW5HI C F AA6KT ADIRONDACK AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY LA MIRADA CA
 W6XYZ C F AA6KT LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO GROUP LA MIRADA CA
 K6WOW C F AA6KT GOLDEN STATE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 
 KK9DOG C F AA6TK ILLIBUCK AMATEUR RADIO ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 WW6USA C F AA6TK PATRIOTIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB AUXILIARY LA MIRADA CA
 WW6TXA C F AA6TK ORANGE COUNTY REPEATER PROJECT LA MIRADA CA
 K6GND C F AA6TK HISTORICAL AMAT RAD CLUB OF SOUTHERN CA LA MIRADA CA
 W6NUT C F AA6TK MIGHTY WONDERFUL REPEATER ASSN AUXILIARY LA MIRADA CA
 WW6LM C F AA6TK LA MIRADA MUNICIPAL ARC LA MIRADA CA
 W6MTR C F AA6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SIX METER CLUB AUXILIA LA MIRADA CA
 W6KAY C F AA6TK EREHWON AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 
 W6CAT C F N6TK ILLIBUCK AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 KK6USA C F N6TK PATRIOTIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6FUN C F N6TK MIGHTY WONDERFUL REPEATER ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 K6MTR C F N6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SIX METER CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 NN6LM C F N6TK LA MIRADA CIVIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 K6TXB C F N6TK LOS ANGELES COUNTY REPEATER PROJECT LA MIRADA CA
 W6RRR C F N6TK SHANGRI LA AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6HAM C F N6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARC LA MIRADA CA
 
 K6HO C F AA6ET THUNDER AND LIGHTNING AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6BUB C F AA6ET LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 W6TNT C F AA6ET AARDVARK AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6FM C F AA6ET LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6HI C F AA6ET VICTORY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6DX C F AA6ET ARBOL OLIVO AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6CQ C F AA6ET OLIVE TREE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6WWW C F AA6ET SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AMATEUR RADIO GROUP LA MIRADA CA

>From thompson at mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)  Sat Nov  9 21:57:57 1996
From: thompson at mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) (David L. Thompson)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 16:57:57 -0500
Subject: Which Caller to Reply to?
Message-ID: <199611092155.QAA29190 at answerman.mindspring.com>

At 11:42 AM 11/8/96 -0500, W3LPL wrote:
>The decision the contester must make very quickly when deciding which
>caller to reply to in a pileup 

>Some factors in the rapid decision making process:
> 
>Could the caller be a new multiplier or a higher point value QSO?  
>   If yes... answer him first!
>
>If the caller is not a multiplier or higher point value QSO:
>   Is the caller likely to wait thru the current QSO? (based on callsign
>   recognition or the "savvy" prodedure of the caller)  If you don't think
>   the caller will wait, answer him first so he doesn't go away!
>           
>Is the caller so "savvy" that you think you can complete the QSO so
>quickly that other callers will wait by default (or may still be calling!)?
>
>       If yes, reply to the very "savvy" caller!
>
>If more than one station answers, do not reply immediately to the station
>that may require longer time to complete the QSO due to such factors as: 
>weak signal, QRM or poor operating procedure.
>   
>Try not to let any caller wait too long or they may also go away!
>Many callers will wait in a pileup for a few QSOs but not for more than a
>few.  Ideally,  the pileup should be managed first-in-first-out, subject
>to the considerations above.
>
>If you can copy the callsigns (or partial callsigns) of other callers, you
>can reply to them next to avoid digging thru the pileup for the next QSO.
>
>Now... you get to run through this decision tree in about a second, and
>even the best operators will make the optimum decision only some of the
>time (oh... and of course this decision proces cannot interfere copying 
>the call perfectly the first time!)
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>donovanf at sgate.com
> 
Good advice.....

I find that in the SS that you often can hold one caller and work another by
telling (example) K2V stand by and the work K1XXX then work K2V.  Now K2V
will be in the clear and you get the call without a repeat.  I tried to keep
three in line but found this to run off other callers that are competitive.
The better approach is to have the call or partial and then follow Frank's
advice on
working K1XXX, K2V, and then call WA8ZZZ.  Beyond three at once also has
been proven to be ineffective.  

Another tip to not lose stations or confuse them as to when to call is to
finish the contact with QSL K4JRB, contest.   ZL1MQ used this well years ago
and it sure saves on words...  I feel that QRZ and CQ are overused on SSB..
Why say CQ SS K4JRB every time when the repeat could be K4JRB Contest.  I
plug CQ Contest K4JRB into one voice keyer memory, K4JRB Contest into
another. I use the CQ once followed up with K4JRB contest several times
(great for the 10 meter contest at this point of the sunspot cycle.)   

Next,  learn to tune your ears...first to become the saavy operator Frank
mentions you gotta be able to recognize that one caller is a new mult or a
high point caller (and this caller is not always
the loudest!).   Since most of us use computer logging this is the one place
to use a scatch pad to remind yourself of the next call or two.  Using
headphones is an absolute necessity.  Practice and experience is the only
way gain tunable ears.   The only drawback is that you may leave a logger
behind.

73, Dave K4JRB


>From jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing)  Sat Nov  9 16:53:10 1996
From: jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) (John Downing)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:53:10 -0800
Subject: Excellent Adventure at 8P9Z
Message-ID: <01BBCE1B.74A48B00 at downing-1.intelenet.net>

	Bill, Vic, and John's Excellent Adventure

The Cuba Libre Contest Club heads east.  Yep, the Cuba Libre Contesters,
better known as the "usual characters at V31DX" headed off to Barbados
this year for the CQWW SSB test as guests of the 8P9Z group.  The trip
was great; here's the saga:

We almost didn't make the trip.  Disaster, and I do mean disaster, struck 
the evening before our departure from San Diego.  On Monday I had all 
the gear packed and ready to rendezvous with Bill WA9L and Vic KI6IM 
at the airport for an early Tuesday morning departure.  The big fire in San 
Diego that you might have seen on the news started that afternoon in Vic's 
neighborhood.  Unable to reach Vic on the phone, my wife and I watched 
the news (and the soot that blew over our house) and anxiously waited for 
communication from our fellow Cuba Libre Contester.  All of the phones 
and power were out in Vic's part of town.  Cell phone coverage in that 
semi-rural section of San Diego was very spotty and overloaded.  The fire, 
which was to destroy over 100 homes, was really raging.  Vic was busy 
moving the animals to safety and hosing down his and his neighbor's property.  
That evening he got his 440 HT working and  contacted me through one of the 
local repeaters.  He expected to be up all night.  Things were touch and go 
for the contest -  though it hardly seemed like the most important thing.  Vic 
was successful in keeping the fire from damaging his home - but did spend 
all night directing firefighters on the rural roads in his part of town.  The only 
communication that reliably worked was his HT and the repeater system - at 
least as long as the battery lasted.  Score one for ham radio.

Tuesday morning an exhausted Vic, Bill, and I met at the airport.  Vic and his
neighbor's homes were OK with just some burned trees and fences.  After an
uneventful flight we arrived in Barbados Wednesday afternoon and were 
greeted by our agent.  Over the years I've learned to hire a local agent to facilitate 
customs clearance of a bunch of radios, amplifiers, and more computers than 
passengers!  Our local agent, Thomas Harper jr, was accompanied by his dad, 
Tom Harper  8P6EB,  who was president of the Amateur Radio Society of Barbados.  
With Tom jr handling the paperwork and Tom sr explaining to Barbados customs 
that all of this equipment was necessary for the "international radio competition" 
we breezed through a friendly but slightly bewildered customs agent.  With rental 
jeeps rented and directions cheerfully provided by Tom sr we headed off to 
Warleigh Plantation, home of the 8P9Z contest station on the north side of the island.  

The station is wonderful.  It's in a guest cottage out in the country with a clear shot
in almost all directions.  There are three towers; one 70 foot with a 3 element 40
meter beam and a 5 element ten meter beam, one 50 foot with a TH-7 and another
50 footer with a TH-6.  80 and 160 have vee beams.  We arrived just as Steve K4FJ 
and Jack K3KG completed laying out two 1000 foot Beverage antennas.  They had 
been in Barbados for a week installing the 10 meter beam, the vee beams, getting 
the station together, and generally decompressing to Caribbean time.  We 
unpacked and installed our contribution to the effort; five laptop computers (three 
networked with CT), and an FT-1000mp / Alpha 76 to add to the already installed two 
TS850s and amps.  A local internet connection allowed us to check our e-mail.  
We headed out for a get acquainted dinner at a local restaurant that night.  I think 
contesters and fisherman have a great deal in common when it comes to story telling!  

The plantation is managed by Jagan 8P6PW.  Without his support and enthusiasm 
Jack and Steve would not have been able to assemble the station which is in the 
plantation's guest cottage.  Thursday evening Jagan and his wife and daughter treated 
us to a wonderful home cooked meal.  There was no shortage of Cuba Libres mixed 
with the local Mount Gay Rum.  (Great booze!).  The following morning Jagan gave 
Bill, Vic, and me a terrific tour of the north end of the island that he knows and loves 
so much.  We even stopped at the Mount Gay Rum distillery - pictures of the Cuba 
Libre Contesters posing in front of the distillery will, no doubt, find their way on to a 
QSL card in the future.....

On Friday, contest day, we did our ritual hangin' out at the hotel swimming pool thing.
Relaxed and refreshed we were ready to churn and burn.  Vic started on the run 
with Jack and Steve chasing multipliers.  I looked after the computers and stuff.  Bill
was on the phone with his office sorting out something about a missing T1 line - 
entrepreneurial company presidents never can escape - even on DXpeditions to 
contest locations.  Jack was the official band change caller.  It was clear that Jack
and Steve had done many contests together - they were almost telepathic about
managing the ten minute rule.  They quickly picked up on the vagaries of CT having
done all of their logging by hand in the past.  I think Jack must have reached 100wpm
hunt and peck typing!  Concentration is an amazing thing.  Jack and Steve really
showed us some real skill in multiplier chasing - they would each map out their 
respective bands, noting new mults - on each ten minute cycle each would sweep
their bands - it was magic.  At V31DX, our usual contest QTH, we only have a single
tower with a tribander and single antennas for the other bands.  As a result we 
never really could pile up the mults but learned to run fast.  Vic and I found ourselves
prime time sprinters on the run station - great fun.

The Beverage receiving antennas for 80 and 160 were wonderful, reducing the noise
level several S-units and virtually eliminating static crashes.  I won't do a contest on
these bands again without a Beverage :-).  Forty was so crowded each evening that
I found myself all the way down at 7020.  It was wall to wall all the way to 7100.  In
general we tried to run Europeans on Saturday and W/VE stations on Sunday.  

A few observations: Eight-papa-nine-zulu is most definitely easier to say ten thousand
times than victor-three-one-delta-xray!  I was able to end each and every Q with our
call signaling the pile-up to start.  Not one "what's your call?" to slow the rate.  Most of
the US/VE stations got the message and gave full calls - the europeans now seem
to be in love with last/first/middle two letters slowing an already slow (150/hr) rate with
the need to do a fill for every Q.  Full calls always work better - for me at least.  The 
recent Master.dta file generated by Jim AD1C from the logs of the Hi-Q contest
stations in recent contests had an amazingly high hit rate.  Don't know what this 
means except that their are not enough newcomers to contesting.  V31 was in short
supply during the contest.  We worked only one, V31MX, on 15.  V31MX is one or
two hams from Texas that have been coming to Ambergris Caye and later Caye
Caulker for the major SSB contests with a pretty minimal station and doing a fine 
job.  It's the kind of shack in a suitcase operation that I would like to see encouraged.
Thanks for keeping V31 active guys.

Magic moments:  With five minutes to go in the contest ZD8Z broke through the US
pile-up on 40 to give us a new multiplier - thanks Jim.  Having an HS1 call Saturday
night on 40.  On Sunday afternoon on 15 I had probably the best running hour of 
contesting I've ever had - with the last 10 rate-o-meter regularly over 400 and the last
100 Qrate at over 360/hr for most of the hour - conditions were perfect with just a few
callers with 59 signals and each giving full calls.  When someone would give me a last,
middle, or inside out two letters I about wanted to kill 'em as I watched my Qrate drop
below 400 as I had to get a fill.  Other magic moments:  periodically standing by
for Africa to find a small pile-up of African stations really there.  Each day I could follow
the grey line from the 4X4s and the OD5s across Africa to the Canary Islands.  

Not so great moments:  When you link three computers together with the CT daisy chain
serial network and the middle one crashes the network stops.  Need I say more?  The 
logs got out of sync early and often between the machines.  Thank goodness for
Merge.exe.  I think some RF was getting into the RS-232 lines providing enough emf
to look like signaling.  We used CT 9.27.  Wish Ken would use a real network.  One of
the laptops decided at 2:00 am to roll back an hour because of daylight savings leaving
the log out of sync by an hour.  Fixing that now.  The TS850 on 160/80 lost about 30db
of front end gain - probably because of overloading from adjacent antennas on other
bands - hint - the in-line RF power meter moved a lot when the 40 meter station was 
modulated!  Early Sunday morning is always very slow in these contests - but our
Sunday was extreme - if our log is correct, we worked exactly one station between 
9:00 and 10:00am Zulu Sunday.  At least it was a multiplier - a CE on 40.  Gotta admit
I was sawing logs at the time :-). 

So how did we do?  Until the logs are finally assembled and we find our 
missing hour - if it is, indeed, missing - our Multi-Single effort yielded about 
7200 QSOs and 716 multipliers for about 12,000,000 points.  Enough to make,
we hope, the top five, and perhaps, top North American.  The ZW0F score 
was simply amazing - super job guys!  Full score will be posted on the 3830 
reflector when I piece it together.

On monday morning we bid a fond farewell to our gracious hosts and fellow
contesters at 8P9Z (maybe they'll invite us back...) and headed back to the 
states.  On the way we stopped in Orlando to see, first hand the OSCAR Phase 
3D project.  Stan WA4NFY and Lou W5DID (responsible for SAREX) gave us 
the official cook's tour.  Absolutely, positively impressive.  This thing is the size 
of a Buick and it's designed and built by hams in the finest of ham traditions.  This 
project has faced more show-stoppers than you or I could imagine and each and 
every time they found a way to keep things going.  They're now in the final stages 
of assembly with a launch on Ariane 5 scheduled for mid 1997. 

Even if you have no interest in satellite operation these guys deserve your support.  
They have accomplished wonders with a tiny budget and have done it on an 
international scale with co-operation from hams all over the world.  The Phase 3D 
project is one of the most effective arguments for retention of our slice of the VHF/UHF 
spectrum.  Please join the Cuba Libre Contesters in sending AMSAT a check to help 
finish this thing.  Just forego one gadget for the contest shack and send the money 
to AMSAT for P3D - it will go a long ways, it's tax deductible, and it will make you 
feel good too.

A few thoughts on vanity calls:  If the worst turns out to be true about all those 
seemingly bogus club calls and they are the precursor to some weird form of
call brokering - the call holders, present and future, shouldn't expect that they
will stay for very long in my future contest DXpedition contest logs.  

And on a happier note, now that I have been assigned W2NA, I can't help but
wonder who the original W2NA was.  Was he (probably was a "he") a contester, 
an experimenter, a ragchewer?  When was he active?  I'd really like to know if 
there is a legacy with this old, old call.
 
That's all for now folks,

John

V31DX / 8P9IX / W2NA (formerly N6YRU)

The 8P9Z contest cottage is available for rent.  Contact Jack K3KG
or Steve K4FJ for details.  





  








>From wsixrgg at crl.com (R.B. Vallio)  Sun Nov 10 01:00:25 1996
From: wsixrgg at crl.com (R.B. Vallio) (R.B. Vallio)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:00:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Vanity: some raw data
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961109165834.29336C-100000 at crl8.crl.com>

On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Dave Curtis wrote:

> The attached data is presented without comment.
> Draw your own conclusions.
> 73, Dave N6NZ
> 
data deleted...

	My conclusion:  GREED.





Bob Vallio - W6RGG    wsixrgg at crl.com



>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Sat Nov  9 16:49:27 1996
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 12:49:27 -0400
Subject: NEW CALLSIGN LISTINGS V
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961109164927.298f5130 at interpath.com>

NEW CALLSIGNS

Compiled by
WA4ZXA
(floydjr at interpath.com)

Date Posted: 11/09/96

OLD CALL #  NEW CALL  FULL NAME           EMAIL ADD4RESS
_____________________________________________________________________

K1IU        K1AM    Jeff Bouvier          k1iu at ids.net
WA1G        K1AJ    Bruce Marshall        bruce at shore.net
AC1O        KN4T    Walt Deemer           ac1o at gate.net
K1ZX        K4OJ    Jim White             k4oj at aol.com
K1YRP       W1EQ    Robert C. Garceau     bobgar at neca.com
WA1IML      K1SM    William A. Hassan     dxer at ici.net
K1CGJ       K1RC    John C. Marchand      jmarchand at ecrm.com
W1IHN    1  N4CW    Bert Michaud          W1IHN at GNN.COM
KJ1N        N0HF    Daniel C. Norman      dnorman at ucar.edu
KD1NG       K1SD    James M. Setzler, Jr. setzler_james_m at fs811.npt
                                          .nuwc.navy.mil
K1MNS       K1CA    Larry Blouin          arnold.industries at channel1.com
K1FWF       K1AE    John D. Allen         jallen at vhfcom.com
WA1N        W1AO    Joseph M. Kozak
K1LL        K1ART   Arthur K. Hambleton
AA1LI       W1AZ    George B. Gardner
K1JKS       N1BB    William Bithell Jr.
WA1PEL      K1BD    William A. Dodge
W1BWS       W1CU    Jonathan A. Cunitz
AG1C        W1EG    Edward W. Goodhue III
N1OCS       W1EK    Joe Rich
KT1O        W1ES    Stephen E. Wedge
KD2EU       K1EU    Michael J. Russo
WO1P        K1GE    Glenn C. Edson
WA1KSY      K1HQ    Robert P. Olsen
N1ACU       K1IA    Raymond T. Trinque
WB1ELA      W1IA    Brent R. Desautel
WU1I        W1JO    Richard J. Rainville
KD1GG       AE1M    Robert A. Levine
N1OPZ       N1MD    Michael L. Therrien
WT1S        W1MD    Martin I. Durham
K1HMO       K1MO    David C. Mania
KA1YQ       K1MS    Ivan G. Pagacik
WA1VAR      W1NR    Michael A. McCarthy
WA2CJT      K1OA    Scott A. Ginsburg
WA1TTE      W1OHM   William H. Ohm
K1YXV       K1OW    George R. Rickley
KA1FMR      K1OZ    James A. Spear
KG1CS       W1PA    William P. Acito Jr.
NZ1U        W1RE    Robert A. Edry
AA1KY       W1RH    Robert P. Hess
AD1G        N1RJ    Roger D. Johnson
WZ1R        N1RR    Charles Morrison
KM1Y        K1RV    Harold L. Pugh Jr.
WA1EQU      W1RV    Richard P. Vitello
NO1J        K1TH    Thomas W. Hurley
NX1H        K1TI    Paul D. Terwilliger
WA1TET      W1TQ    David W. Foner
N1HEO       N1TT    Stanely A. White
KY1H        K1TTT   David R. Robbins
KB1AXF      K1WD    William H. Davis
KD1TM       W1XF    James A. Frier Jr.
WA1TZV      K0TV    Jeremy L. Muller
WB1HBB      K4VP    Warren L. Rothberg
N1EE        W6CT    Scott A. Lieberman
NY1I        AE7G    Robert C. Koerner
KA1MH       K1JN
N1MJC       W1FYB
KD1EG       W1CN
AA1AK       AJ1X
AI1N        K1MZ
K1CMI       W1MI
K1GBU       W1SM
K1HMO       K1MO
KA1BQ       W1NA
KB1BPE      K1ZL
KC1SJ       W1UK
NI1Y        N1WL
NO1U        W1WZ
W1HIC       W3BW
WA1AYS      K1SG
WA1EKV      K1KW
WS1H        N1ET
WS1J        W1CNY
WZ1R        N1RR

AB2BO       K3BU    Yuri Blanarovich      K3BU at AOL.COM
WM2C        K2KW    Kenny Silverman       ken.silverman at airtouch.com
WP2S        W4MK    Michael J. Kloc       w4mk at sunrisetech.com
AA2UA       K2DE    James Demos           k2de at monmouth.com
KF2ET       N2TX    Mike Anderson         N2TX at LI.NET
WT2G        W2ED    Ed Bailey             ebailey at earthlink.net
KB2NY       N2JT    Jack Trampler         kb2ny at fast.net
WB2DIN      W2CE    Robert Reed           HWDX09A at PRODIGY.COM
WB2DND      N1DG    Don Greenbaum         DON at AURUMTEL.COM
KR2J        N5NJ    Robert Naumann        KR2J at ix.netcom.com
KU2Q        K5DU    Susan M. King         ku2q at austin.ibm.com
WA2SRQ      K2SQ    Ed Gilbert            eyg at hpnjlc.njd.hp.com
AA2DU       W2XX    J.P. Kleinhaus        aa2du at netcom.com
KE2PF       WH2Z    David Mueller         WH2Z at JUNO.COM
N2MZH       AJ2U    Jeff Janock           jj at cybernex.net
KB2SE       K2FR    Fredrick R. Gern      K2FR at Juno.com
WA2STM      W2EQ    John S. Lash          John.Lash at Yale.EDU
KF2FB       K1PI    Sergei M. Gordienko
AA2Z        K1RO    Mark J. Wilson
KB2FD       W1SU    John J. Cuneo Jr.
WB2KMY      K2AD    Douglas A. Sharp
WB2YLR      W2GDJ   George D. Jones
K2SHL       W2LK    Leslie P. Kalmus
KF2ET       N2TX    Michael T. Anderson
N2AIF       K2XF    Seymour Miller
W2CRS       W0AH                          goforit at worldnet.att.net
WA2AGO      W7KW
N2GYY       K2DJQ
WB2AMM      K3HN
AA2UV       W2WG
K2PBP       K2BF
K2POF       W2WC
KA2DFO      KA2D
KC2QF       K2ZZ
KD2EU       K1EU
KD2L        W2KD
KE2N        K1NY
KW2P        W2SF
KZ2S        N2NC
NI2C        K2WE
NN2G        N2TU
WA2CJT      K1OA
WB2QJY      WB2QJ

KE3GA       K3AR    Beryl D. Simonson     ke3ga at contesting.com
KY3N        W3EA    Wayne Kline           W3EA at AOL.COM
KI3V        N7TR    Richard Hallman       ki3v at rnodx.org
WR3E        W3UR    Bernie McClenny       bernie.mcclenny at mail.wdn.com
WR3O        K4RO    Kirk Pickering        K4RO at music-city.tdec.state.tn.us
WB3ESS      K3CT    John Bednar           jkbe at lucent.com
K3ZNV       W8ZA    Robert J. Biss        BISS at EPG.NIST.GOV
NZ3I        K3TD    Tad Danley            tad.danley at nextel.com
N3BDA       K3PP    Glenn D. O'Donnell    gdo at lucent.com
WR3G        N3RA    Scott Jones           sjones at sygnet.com
KF3P        K3MM    Tyler Stewart         kf3p at cais.com
W3CPB       W3CP    James M. Headrick     headrick at radar.nrl.navy.mil
WA3TXR      W1TE    Charles R. Schwartz
N3AHF       W2KV    David McGee           david_mcgee at maca.sarnoff.com
K3YGU       K3KY
KV3J        W3KB
N3QYA       W3KN  
NY3G        K3SV
W3GOI       W4AU
WA3WJD      N3OC
WA3WQP      N3HR
WN3K     1  N9GG    Bob Pennys            radio at udel.edu
WZ3Q        K4ZA    Don Daso              wz3q at juno.com
KX3Y        N3EN    Art McDonald          amcdonal at erols.com

WZ4F        K4AB    Larry A. Crim         wz4f at nerak.companet.net
AD4TU       K4MW    Pete Wildman          ad4tu at esinet.net
WB4IUX      W4IU    Tom Skelton, Jr.      tskelto at ces.clemson.edu
W4RIM       K6RIM   Albert C. Burnham     w4rim at ix.netcom.com
AD4Y        N4NM    Charles M. Lewis      clewis at ro.com
KJ4VH       N4GN    Tim Totten            kj4vh at iglou.com
N4YOS       N4YO    Tom Thompson          tom at iquest.com
KI4HN    1  K4MA    Jim Stevens           ki4hn at nando.net
WN4KNN   1  N5KO    Trey Garlough         trey at cisco.com
KC4ZV       K4NO    Gregory F. Richard    kc4zv at iquest.com
N4PYD       W4WW    Scotty Neustadter     scotty at iquest.com
N4DVW       W4EA    Dan Nixon             adnixon at akorn.net
KI4M        W4RJ    Ted Pounders          tpound at hiwaay.net
WB4NFS      W4NF    John Francis 0'Mara   wb4nfs at erols.com
AA4FC       K4PX    George Fundis         k4px at palmnet.net
KF4BU       K4BU    H.J. Huddleston       huddlehd at wb.gulf.net
N4DVW    2  W4EA    Dan Nixon             adnixon at akorn.net
KJ4KB       N1KB    John C. Hennessee
KX4V        N1RL    Eric R. Lindquist
K4HWG       W4AD    Jack Omara            tury at erols.com
K4CPK       W8DC                          BillCombs at aol.com
WA4VCC   1  W4VHF   Ted F. Goldthorpe     TGOLDTHROPE at SunBelt.Net
AC4VA       ND4Q
KD4AUU      W1CLS
AE4PC       WY4Y
N4EA        ND6A    W. Don McDoniel
KR4DL       K4WA    Steven R. Schmidt     k4wa at mindspring.com
WB4MAI      W4OX    Doug McDuff           dmcduff at gate.net

KP4XS       N4UK    Ken Ramirez           ramirezk at emi.com

W5HUQ    8  W4UE    John R. Moore         w5huq at pobox.com
KB5UL    2  N5UL    Charles W. Shaw       shawcorj at wtaccess.com
AA5RB    4  N5KA                          russ at inetport.com
KK5EP       N5ZX    Michael Causey        kk5ep at netdoor.com
AB5KD       K5DJ    Ron Stailey           ron-stailey at easy.com
KJ5IR       K5TH    Tim Hayes             k5th at juno.com
KD5PJ       N9CO    Charlie Ocker         ocker at chasind.com
KC5RAS      K5WO    Bob Kmak              bkmak at airmail.net
WV5S        K5TT    Jim Hood              wv5s at icon.net
N5CT     1  W7CT    Jim Lawrence          n5ct at delphi.com
AA5BL       N5JA    Jon A. Barclay        aa5bl at intrastar.net
AC5BR       KK5GT

AB6FO       K6LA    Ken Widelitz          KWIDELITZ at delphi.com
N6UR        W6TG    Terry Gaiser          w6tg at aol.com
K6XO        KO7X    Alan A. Brubaker      alan at es.com
W6EMS       K6AW    Stephen Merchant      merchant at silcom.com
KC6CEX      N6ED    Craig Gullickson      cgullick at tuba.calpoly.edu
N6YRU       W2NA    John Downing          jdowning at intelenet.net
WA6AUE   4  W6EU    Jim Duffy             wa6aue at mcimail.com
WA6GDS      W6KC    Jim Stockwell         74503.53 at Compuserver.Com
KK6XN       W6KY    Art Wallace           W6KY at CONTESTING.COM
N6AZE       N6NC    Henry L. Serra Jr.    hlserra at pwa.acusd.edu
NF6H     2  N6RT    Doug Brandon          dab at kaiwan.com
AB6YL       K6GT    George T. Daughters   gdauth6 at leland.standford.edu
AC6XO       N6DE    Dean Wood             dwood at w6bhz.calpoly.edu
N6DLU       N7UE    David B. Ritchie      dbr at alumi.caltech.edu
KI6VY       AK6I    Darrel J. Van Buer    darrel at dii.com
NV6O        K6GV    Eric D. Woods         edwoods at pacbell.com
WA6IET      N6WS    Bill Shell            shell at callamer.com
KJ6HO    5  K6RO    Larry Shapiro         K6RO at aol.com
N6IP     4  K6XX    Bob Wolbert           k6xx at juno.com
N6NU        W6RW    Michael S. Mitchell   w6rw at earthlink.net
AA6MC       K6KR    Richard Dievendorff   dieven at almaden.ibm.com
WB6JMS   6  W6YJ    James Arther Jr.      jlarther at net.rocwell.com
WA6GVC      W4XP

WR6R        AH7G    Al Crespo             pitts at maui.net
AH6NB    3  KH7M    Jim Reid              jreid at aloha.net

AA7FT    6  K7ST    Adam Kerner           pacarch at wolfnet.com
AA7NX       K7NT    Michael R. Conotore   aa7nx at aol.com
AA7BG       K7BG    Matt Trott            aa7bg at 3rivers.net
AA7NH       K7ZL    Thomas Trent          ttrent at oregon.uoregon.edu
W7LZP    1  W7TI    Bill Turner           wrt at eskimo.com
AA7VB       K7BV    Dennis Motschenbacker aa7vb at aol.com
KD7EY       K9EY    Casey Conway          caconway at evansville.net
KC7EM       K7EM    Steve Kelly           srkelly at agora.rdrop.com
NS7Z        K5UO    Mike Bragassa         bragassa at hal-pc.org
WA7FOE      W7NN                          W7NN at AOL.COM
AB7CZ       K7MK    Jim Cullum            jcullum at micron.net
KR7Y        K7XM    Hugh Phillips         hugh at diac.com
WA7UVJ      N7WA    Michael Dinkelman     mwdink at eskimo.com
W7KJJ       K7JJ    Dave Earnest          k7jj at ix.netcom.com
KI7YO    1  KR7X    Hank Lonbert          hlonberg at hgi-pdx.usa.com
AA7TF    4  K7ZO    Scott Tuthill         k7zo at micron.net

AL7PT       W8PT    Rich Kennedy          rdk1 at niosr1.em.cdc.gov
AL7H        K0AV

AA8GL       W8EB    Wm. E. Blick          W8EB at aol.com
WA8SWM      W7WM    Steve Boone           boone at cookie.enet.dec.com
N8ATR       N8TR    Pete Michaelis        n8atr at en.com
KC8MK       K8MK    Jim Hurt              jhurt at freenet.columbus.oh.us
K8BRL       N1RT    Ron Toller            k8brl at worldnet.att.net
AA8FE       W5FX    Mike Bruening         aa8fe at aol.com
AA8OT       K3AO    Serge Kulyov          ipua3ap at redline.ru
K8HVT       W1NN    Hal Offutt            woffutt at netaxis.com
WA8YVR      N9RV    Patrick M. Barkey     pbarkey at wp.bsu.edu
WD8IXE   3  N8SM    Steve Miller          millersg at dma.org
K8JLF       K1HT    David C. Hoaglin      dave_hoaglin at abtassoc.com
K8QLK       K8GT    Gerry Treas           ah672 at detroit.freenet.org
AD8V        W1ZZ    Edward H. Stratton
WA8SMF   1  W8MM    Mike Valentine        #wa8msf at ix12.ix.netcom.com
KU8U        W8KX    John Lane             lane at glerl.noaa.gov
KU8P        K8RS   
WB8OGM      K8TJ
WA8LLY   1  K6UM    Steve Lund            wa8lly at pacbell.net
W8YA        W4AG

AA9AX       N9FD    Steve Sample          aa9ax at iglou.com
WX9E        K9PG    Paul Gentry           PGentry at sbbs.net
W9NQ     5  K6ZZ    Bob Selbrede          w9nq at ccis.com
WN9JAT      K9MY    Jerry Douglas         wn9jat at aol.com
KF9PL    1  KX9X    Sean E Kutzko         kf9pl at cris.com
N9CKC       N9CK    Steven Franzen        n9ckc at inxpress.net
KK9W        K0RX    David R. Anderson     k0rx at solon.eng.uiowa.edu
WB9MSV      N9LR                          LarDX at aol.com
WA9KNP      W9FX    Brad Pioveson         nogap at intrnet.net
K9HCX       W9OZ
KE9A        K4ZW

AA0OB       K0OB    Greg Fields           aa0ob at skypoint.com
NI0E     4  W0MU    Mike Fatchett         fatchett.mike at tci.com
AA0XZ       K0GN    Greg Nunn             gnunn at mail.coin.missouri.edu
NG0X        N6NZ    David B. Curtis       david_b_curtis at ccm.sc.intel.com
AA0WO       W7II    William Frede         bfrede at poci.amis.com
NZ0V        K0ZZ    Robert Emerson        nz0v at ix,netcom.com
AA0SQ       K0MX    Jeff Fischer
AA0VQ       N0KK    Kirk Pengelly
K0IJL       N0IJ    John Baumgarten       JBaumgarten at aol.com
WA0VQR      W0DC    John Lockhart         jlockj at minn.net
N0DH     9  N7EX    Dave Henderson        n0dh at Comtch.iea.com
NQ0I     1  N7DR    Doc Evans             AL019 at freenet.uchsc.edu
AA0NV       N5BC    Felix J. Riess        n5bc at amsat.org
WY0J        KK0T    Jim Brown             jbrown at nyx.net
KC0O        W0LD    Lauren Libby          75151.2442 at compuserve.com
AB0CN       N0UK    Chris Cox             chrisc at Chris.Org
WA0QOA      NA2U    Fred W. Hoffert       cwman at juno.com
K0WWG    1  W6DX    Barrie Britton        bbritton at prolit.llu.edu

CLUB STATIONS

KB2ZTN      N2EE    Nicola TELSA Radio Club
KB3BIJ   1  W3TT    N.E.R.D.S.
KB3BLJ   1  W2JJ    Hi-Tech Rednecks  
KF6AYQ      K6AO    Mother Lode DX/Contest Club
KE6URB      K6RCC   River City Contesters
KE6URI      K6CPU   Intel Emergency Amateur Radio Service
KE6TXM      K6RE    Alps Amateur Radio Club
KE6SWZ      N6UI    Cops Contest Club
KC7KMC      K7RAT   Boring Amateur Radio Club
KB9NLG      KX9ZZ   Cook County Contesters
KM9P        K4AAA   Dahlonega Contest Club

WP2AHW      WP2Z    Island Villa Contest Club


**************************************************************************

The calls were put by there old call and in that call area. Also you will
notice a number next to the old call. That is the number of the choice 
they receieved. The calls are in the order they were receieved by me.

Also Scott, KA9FOX has all the vanity call info on his home page with a 
complete listing if anyone is interested. 

I am sorry if this format laps some of the email addresses around. They
are just to long to get all on one line. I did put the new email addresses 
people gave me on here so if the mail bounces you will know why. 

73's Jim
           ********************************************************** 
           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
           *                                                        *
           * Amateur Call:              >> WA4ZXA <<                *
           * Packet Node:               >> N4ZC <<                  *
           * Internet Address:          >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
           **********************************************************


>From steven at zianet.com (Steven Nace KN5H)  Sun Nov 10 01:34:57 1996
From: steven at zianet.com (Steven Nace KN5H) (Steven Nace KN5H)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:34:57 -0700
Subject: Vanity: some raw data
Message-ID: <01332523402606 at zianet.com>

At 01:44 PM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote:
>The attached data is presented without comment.
>Draw your own conclusions.
>73, Dave N6NZ
>
> NEW CALL CLS   EL  OLD CALL  NAME               QTH            ST
> 
> W0AE C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA

snip
> 
> W6AAA C F AA6KT 
>snip 
> KK9DOG C F AA6TK 
>snip 
> W6CAT C F N6TK 
>snip
> K6HO C F AA6ET 

Geez,

Hope the tuckers get their $$'s worth. Counted abt $720 worth of calls there!

de KN5H

no more KN5S
no more KM5H


>From kr2j at ix.netcom.com (Robert E. Naumann)  Sat Nov  9 23:27:03 1996
From: kr2j at ix.netcom.com (Robert E. Naumann) (Robert E. Naumann)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:27:03 -0600
Subject: Who to Answer First
Message-ID: <01BBCE74.633D23A0 at dfw-tx18-03.ix.netcom.com>

In Doug's defense, which he really doesn't need, I must admit that I also 
find myself getting rid of the guy with the poorest operating style first. 
 It makes it easier for the rest of the guys who are using "proper" 
technique.

I suppose that this might be construed as encouraging poor operating, but 
it's tough to ignore a guy who never stops transmitting over other stations 
you're trying to copy.  For some reason, the lids always have slightly 
stronger signals than those who "behave" themselves.

Bob Naumann
N5NJ
V26RN

----------
From:  Bob Patten[SMTP:n4bp at shadow.net]
Sent:  Friday, November 08, 1996 11:00 PM
To:  Doug Grant
Cc:  cq-contest
Subject:  Re: Who to Answer First

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Doug Grant wrote:

> Certain countries' operators have very distinctive operating styles. No 
matter
> who you answer, they will call you anyway. I always try to find the lid 
and
> answer him first. It saves time telling him to QRX while you work the guy 
you
> really wanted.
In other words, you encourage his operating style...

Bob Patten, N4BP






>From w0mu at sprynet.com (Mike Fatchett)  Sun Nov 10 02:24:29 1996
From: w0mu at sprynet.com (Mike Fatchett) (Mike Fatchett)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:24:29 -0700
Subject: Vanity: some raw data
Message-ID: <01BBCE73.A21D2300 at dd27-158.compuserve.com>

Appears some folks have more disposable income? than me?

Mike
W0MU
EX NI0E

----------
From: 	Dave Curtis[SMTP:ng0x at ricochet.net]
Sent: 	Saturday, November 09, 1996 2:44 PM
To: 	cq-contest at tgv.com
Subject: 	Vanity: some raw data

The attached data is presented without comment.
Draw your own conclusions.
73, Dave N6NZ

 NEW CALL CLS   EL  OLD CALL  NAME               QTH            ST
 
 W0AE C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6GS C F KD6VWK ORANGE COUNTY GSA AMATEUR RADIO CLUB SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
 K6HF C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 AE6QC C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 AE6J C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 K6TT C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W2JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W5JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 WR6J C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6JR C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 N2CW C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 W6USA C F KD6VWK ORTEGA WIRELESS LEAGUE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 N6SJC C F KD6VWK MISSION AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CA
 
 W6AAA C F AA6KT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AMATEUR RADIO ORG LA MIRADA CA
 W6BAH C F AA6KT GOLDEN STATE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6BUG C F AA6KT DOODLEBUG AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 K5HO C F AA6KT WATERTOWN AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY LA MIRADA CA
 W6NNN C F AA6KT LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO ORGANIZATION LA MIRADA CA
 WW5HI C F AA6KT ADIRONDACK AMATEUR RADIO SOCIETY LA MIRADA CA
 W6XYZ C F AA6KT LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO GROUP LA MIRADA CA
 K6WOW C F AA6KT GOLDEN STATE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 
 KK9DOG C F AA6TK ILLIBUCK AMATEUR RADIO ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 WW6USA C F AA6TK PATRIOTIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB AUXILIARY LA MIRADA CA
 WW6TXA C F AA6TK ORANGE COUNTY REPEATER PROJECT LA MIRADA CA
 K6GND C F AA6TK HISTORICAL AMAT RAD CLUB OF SOUTHERN CA LA MIRADA CA
 W6NUT C F AA6TK MIGHTY WONDERFUL REPEATER ASSN AUXILIARY LA MIRADA CA
 WW6LM C F AA6TK LA MIRADA MUNICIPAL ARC LA MIRADA CA
 W6MTR C F AA6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SIX METER CLUB AUXILIA LA MIRADA CA
 W6KAY C F AA6TK EREHWON AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 
 W6CAT C F N6TK ILLIBUCK AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 KK6USA C F N6TK PATRIOTIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6FUN C F N6TK MIGHTY WONDERFUL REPEATER ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 K6MTR C F N6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SIX METER CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 NN6LM C F N6TK LA MIRADA CIVIC AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 K6TXB C F N6TK LOS ANGELES COUNTY REPEATER PROJECT LA MIRADA CA
 W6RRR C F N6TK SHANGRI LA AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6HAM C F N6TK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARC LA MIRADA CA
 
 K6HO C F AA6ET THUNDER AND LIGHTNING AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6BUB C F AA6ET LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO ASSN LA MIRADA CA
 W6TNT C F AA6ET AARDVARK AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6FM C F AA6ET LOS ANGELES AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 W6HI C F AA6ET VICTORY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6DX C F AA6ET ARBOL OLIVO AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6CQ C F AA6ET OLIVE TREE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB LA MIRADA CA
 WW6WWW C F AA6ET SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AMATEUR RADIO GROUP LA MIRADA CA



>From trogo at primenet.com (Tony Rogozinski)  Sun Nov 10 02:30:28 1996
From: trogo at primenet.com (Tony Rogozinski) (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:30:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Vanity: some raw data
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961109192453.1a8f98de at mailhost.primenet.com>

My conclusion:   DISGUSTING!!  THERE'S ALWAYS ONE IN A LITTER - IN
                 THIS CASE SEVERAL.


At 05:00 PM 11/9/96 -0800, R.B. Vallio wrote:
>On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Dave Curtis wrote:
>
>> The attached data is presented without comment.
>> Draw your own conclusions.
>> 73, Dave N6NZ
>> 
>data deleted...
>
>	My conclusion:  GREED.
>
>
>
>
>
>Bob Vallio - W6RGG    wsixrgg at crl.com
>
>
>
				



                           Tony Rogozinski N7BG
                          One of the "Voo-Dudes"
                           VooDoo Contest Group
                 I Collect TELEGRAPH KEYS - Especially "Bugs"    
          Call Me At 1-800-966-6264 if you have any to sell or trade
                  I usually have some duplicates for sale


>From phil at zl2tze.mlb.planet.gen.nz (Phillip Conza)  Sun Nov 10 01:57:21 1996
From: phil at zl2tze.mlb.planet.gen.nz (Phillip Conza) (Phillip Conza)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:57:21 +1200
Subject: Help DX Reflector @ VE7TCP
Message-ID: <32868861.zl2tze at zl2tze.mlb.planet.gen.nz>

Hi,
   Can anyone give me any info on the above reflector.
   
   I undersatand it went down some time ago and I haven't heard if it has 
been brought back to life..

Others I know here in NZ haven't been able to get a beep out of it ..

73 Phillip ZL2TZE
--
Phillip Conza
AX25                  ZL2TZE @ ZL2TZE.#73.NZL.OC
E-Mail private        phil at zl2tze.mlb.planet.gen.nz



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