PACKET CHEATING

Alfred J. Frugoli ke1fo at contesting.com
Wed Oct 2 01:49:52 EDT 1996


> ctually, a person doesn't have to be CONNECTED to the local packet cluster to
> "use" it.  One can set their TNC to monitor un-connected packets sent to other
> stations and get all the DX spots that way and no one would ever be the wiser.
> It's a problem, no doubt about it.
> 
> 73, Bill W7LZP
> wrt at eskimo.com
> 

What about the opposite scenario?  A SO unassisted can make spots to 
the cluster, just not use them.  If I remember correctly, CT will not 
allow you to see any of the packet windows in SO mode but it will let 
you make spots.  So a SO could be connected to the cluster and still 
be lagitimate.
-- 
Al, KE1FO, ex. KE6BER    ke1fo at contesting.com or ke6ber at tiac.net
                                      http://www.tiac.net/users/ke6ber

>From zettel at homer.libby.org (Steve Zettel)  Wed Oct  2 05:39:37 1996
From: zettel at homer.libby.org (Steve Zettel) (Steve Zettel)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:39:37 -0600
Subject: 40M Beam Summary
Message-ID: <v0300780eae779e729b7e@[199.172.3.216]>

I have finally finished a summary of the replies I received in response to
my request for 40M Yagi information. The response was overwhelming! Thank
you all for the generous amounts of time and information you all invested!

The short version is that the Cushcraft proponents had the highest response
in terms of numbers, and also the fewest negative comments. KLM and Hygain
were also well represented; DX Engineering, Force 12, Telrex, Wilson, and
M2 had their supporters, too. A lone quad user was also heard from.

I tried to thank each one of you individually, and get your permission to
include your posting in the summary, attributed or not, as you desired. If
I missed someone, or messed up in not protecting your anonymity (or
neglected to give you credit, if that was your wish), I sincerely apologize.

I've sent the summary to those who asked for one in their posting; I'll not
duplicate it here on the reflector as it is VERY large. If you want a copy,
reply direct and I will send you a summary (two text files as attachments
to the e-mail message will be sent back unless you specify some other
method). Or, check the KA9FOX web-site in a few days; I will make it
available to Scott, if he wishes to put it on his excellent summary page.

Thank you all again for your help,

Steve Zettel  KJ7CH				kj7ch at libby.org



>From becker at SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker)  Wed Oct  2 05:03:12 1996
From: becker at SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker) (Tony and Celia Becker)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 22:03:12 -0600
Subject: 2 radio ops- headphone questions
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961002040312.0c4f6eb2 at pop.a001.sprintmail.com>

Hi All!

I asked my friend Mead, an asst. prof. of audiology at NorthWestern University, to comment on Steve Nace' question.

At 12:45 PM 9/25/96 -0700, Steven Nace, <snace at tdrss.wsc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>My present 2 radio set-up stinks. This includes the way I listen to 2
>radios at once. I am soliciting methods or preferences from those of you
>that have success with 2-at-once.
>
>One question is: If 1 rig is audible in each ear, do you have a serious
>handicap when one radio is turned down all the way? Does this present an
>'inbalance' in your head? Is there a way to counteract this inbalance?

No, just less confusion. The right ear (which crosses to the left brain) has
a slight advantage in tests of competing words to each ear. I assume the same
holds for Morse code, which at 30 wpm approaches speech-like perception. We
are capable of comprehending speech at 200+ wpm, suggesting that with 4 ears
you should be able to decode four conversations @ 30 wpm, but the "party
babble" experiments suggest it is hard to track more than one person at a
time.

I will try an experiment to see if 2 slow talkers can be simultaneously
tracked at 30-50 wpm.

Back to your question -- 1. One quiet ear frees brain processing for the
other ear. 2. Given a choice, put the harder-to-track signal in the right
ear.   

Mead C. Killion, PhD - abonso at aol.com
AE0M, Tony Becker - becker at sprintmail.com - Silicon Valley, U.S.A.

>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough)  Wed Oct  2 08:07:51 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:07:51 +0200
Subject: Sable Is. .....When???
Message-ID: <199610020707.JAA08256 at trey-sun.cisco.com>

> When is this dx expedition going there?

Please, this traffic belongs on the DX mailing list, not the contest
mailing.  Please, please cooperate, and please, please *think* before
you post traffic to the cq-contest mailing list.

--Trey, WN4KKN

>From jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing)  Wed Oct  2 08:43:30 1996
From: jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) (John Downing)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 00:43:30 -0700
Subject: CT network RS232 wiring
Message-ID: <01BBAFFA.BDC66040 at downing-1.intelenet.net>

Hi all,

Does anyone have a schematic of the RS232 "network" that is used by CT?
A null modem is used between two computers - been there / done that - but
how are three or more networked together so as to make CT happy?  Jeez,
I wish Ken would have stuck with a standard, i.e., ethernet, networking scheme.

Getting ready to link three, maybe four, laptops together for the CQWW SSB
Contest.

Thanks in advance,

John

N6YRU / V31DX

The Cuba Libre Contest Club - which is NOT going to Belize for the CQWW SSB
but IS heading to the eastern Caribbean.............


>From jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing)  Wed Oct  2 08:50:22 1996
From: jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) (John Downing)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 00:50:22 -0700
Subject: Greyline wallpaper
Message-ID: <01BBAFFB.B3E67E60 at downing-1.intelenet.net>

Well,

Ask and you shall receive..... Thanks to the many who responded to my
request for a greyline display utility for Win95.  GeoClock was the
overwhelming suggestion - and it is now happily gracing the upper right
corner of my CRT.  Pretty neat little package - and it's run OK for 
several days so it probably doesn't do anything nasty to the system.
Highly recommended.  And for those who don't know about the package,
it's available as follows:

GeoClock for Windows 7.0
**** Initial Release ****
J R Ahlgren   jahlgren at capaccess.org
business voice 703-241-2661  FAX 703-241-5809
BBS 703-241-7980  CompuServe 70461,2340
****************************************************
GeoClock displays the current sun and moon positions,
and the parts of the earth in sunlight and twilight,
on high quality maps.  Sun rise, sun set, and local
are available when you register


>From jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing)  Wed Oct  2 08:30:46 1996
From: jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) (John Downing)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 00:30:46 -0700
Subject: DX Packetcluster Telnet List
Message-ID: <01BBAFF9.02559020 at downing-1.intelenet.net>



----------

In reponse to all who requested telnet packetcluster access, here is my compiled list
of clusters and gateways.  It may take a little hand formatting to get it right on your
mail reader.  I also have it in .xls form upon request.  Please send additions, corrections,
deletions, etc. so I can keep the list updated.  All open gateways have been verified today.
Others required permission from the owner or are not currently available.  Thanks to all
who supplied the raw data.  


		TELNET ACCESS TO DX PACKET CLUSTERS						
								
         DX	 	JNOS gateway		IP address	command 	login	password	comment	
      Cluster	name

open								
         WU3V 	gate.wu3v.net		206.104.46.241	DXC		call	anything		East Coast mega cluster	
         WD5B	migate.ampr.org		206.153.72.61	C WD5B	call	e-mail			Arkansas mega cluster	
         WD5B	sapgate.freeway.net			C WD5B	call	e-mail			Arkansas mega cluster	
         WD5B	wd5b.aetn.org		205.153.140.12	C DXARK	call	anything		Arkansas mega cluster	
         KC8FT	migate.ampr.org		206.153.72.61	DX		call	e-mail		Michigan cluster	
         KC8FT	sapgate.freeway.net			DX		call	e-mail		Michigan cluster	
         KC8FT	wd5b.aetn.org		205.153.140.12	C DXIT		call	e-mail		Michigan cluster	
         KC8FT	ham.jaxnet.com		204.183.221.30	C DXIT		call	anything		Michigan cluster	
         PY2XB	sp-gw-py2bjo.ampr.org	143.108.1.123	C DXC		call	anything		
         N6ND	nespadr6.nosc.mil	128.49.212.82	DXC		call	name		Southern Cal. cluster	
         NO4J	ham.jaxnet.com		204.183.221.30	DXCLUS	call	anything			North Florida	
								
closed								
         K9FN	k2cc.ampr.org		44.69.108.1		   	call	guest		preauthorized	
         F6CNB	k2cc.ampr.org		44.69.108.1	          		call	guest		preauthorized	
         NHDX	amrad.keene.edu				c nhdx dx 	call			preauthorized	 
         WP4K	KP4RF (?)		136.145.86.159	DXC	   	call			preauthorized	
         VE1DXC	radio-gw.cnuce.cnr.it	131.114.192.6	C DXHFX	call	name		preauthorized	
          IK5PWJ 	radio-gw.cnuce.cnr.it	131.114.192.6	C DXPISA   	call 	name		preauthorized	
          NO4J	radio-gw.cnuce.cnr.it	131.114.192.6	C DXFLA	call	name		preauthorized	
         WD5B	radio-gw.cnuce.cnr.it	131.114.192.6	C DXARK	call	name		preauthorized	
         KC8FT	radio-gw.cnuce.cnr.it	131.114.192.6	C DXIT	   	call	name		preauthorized	
         KS9K	ks9k.ampr.org		205.159.78.4						preauthorized	
         N9DKI	gw.w9yb.ampr.org	128.46.140.168						preauthorized	
         KF5XV	kb4cpw.dwatt.com	207.22.208.22						preauthorized	
         KI3V	wadg.greatbasin.net	206.14.170.172						preauthorized	
								
unable to verify / no connection made								
         KA4PKB				205.241.25.11					offline / no connection	
         N5UXT	gw.nternode.com	2	04.107.105.89					offline / no connection	
         WA5PIE	s32.dzn.com		205.148.193.32					offline / no connection	
         WS7I	ewarg.org		204.188.52.73					offline / no connection	
         JE3YEK				130.54.29.215					offline / no connection	
          R3ARES				147.45.1.2					offline / no connection	
          VE3CDX	ve3cdx.cdx.net		204.101.129.24					offline / no connection	
           IK5PWJ	ik5gqo.ampr.org				c dxcpwj			o	ffline / no connection	
           IT9GSF	it9gsf.ampr.org				c tcp it9gsf			offline / no connection	








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