40M Vertical/80M Inv L

ehayes at VNET.IBM.COM ehayes at VNET.IBM.COM
Tue Oct 29 08:57:30 EST 1996


During the contest last weekend, I noticed several times that
my old quarter wave 40M vertical was better than my half slopers.
I had planned on removing the vertical and putting a 80M inverted
L (don't have an antenna for 80) in its place but now am having
second thoughts.  So, I'm going to try something different.  I'm
going to leave the 40m vertical but build a coaxial trap (ON4UN's
book) and put it on top of the vertical and add enough wire to
get it to also resonate on 80.  The question is...what is the
best frequency to build the 40M trap for?  All of the references
seem to have different ideas on the subject.

Your suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Wayne   KC5DVT   ehayes at vnet.ibm.com


>From je1jkl at ja2.so-net.or.jp (Satoshi Nakamura)  Tue Oct 29 15:16:09 1996
From: je1jkl at ja2.so-net.or.jp (Satoshi Nakamura) (Satoshi Nakamura)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:16:09 +0900
Subject: 9M6NA QRV 80 for CQWWCW
Message-ID: <9610291516.AA00940 at je1jkl.ja2.so-net.or.jp>

I will be active again from Labuan Island (IOTA OC-133) as 9M6NA for CQ WW 
DX Contest CW.  I will be on 80m single band this year, hoping to break the 
oldest continental record of the contest set by VR3AH back in '76.  QSL via 
JE1JKL (OK via JARL bureau).  Please look for me in the contest.

73, Saty

Satoshi Nakamura  (Saty JE1JKL/9M6NA/NH6J)
<je1jkl at ja2.so-net.or.jp>

>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Tue Oct 29 15:47:16 1996
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:47:16 -0400
Subject: CQWW SSB 96 Score Breakdown II
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029154716.27d7b810 at interpath.com>

CQWW SSB 96
SCORE BREAKDOWN

Compiled by
WA4ZXA

Date Posted: 10/29/96


CALL                                        Q'S/Z'S/DX     SCORE
    160         80         40           20           15          10
_______________________________________________________________________

Single/OP/HP

YB1AQS                                    2433/119/343   3,247,398
   1/ 1/  1    8/ 8/  8   46/20/ 31  435/33/ 96 1224/31/112  719/26/ 95
OH1EH                                     2249/116/419   2,065,100
  95/ 6/ 36  223/14/ 56  414/26/ 92  994/33/107  455/27/100   68/10/ 28
9K2HN                                     1951/ 77/239   1,728,520
   0/ 0/  0    0/ 0/  0    1/ 1/  1  563/23/ 75 1216/33/105  171/20/ 58
PY1CAS                                     826/ 79/193     611,456
   0/ 0/  0    6/ 3/  3   86/14/ 32  333/22/ 68  337/23/ 62   64/17/ 28
OH8BQT                                     719/ 72/220     415,808
   9/ 3/  8   60/ 7/ 31   58/ 6/ 25  383/28/ 73  158/23/ 67   51/ 5/ 16
OI6KZP                                     676/ 66/239     337,940
   2/ 1/  1  185/ 8/ 42   48/ 5/ 24  231/19/ 73  193/26/ 84   17/ 7/ 14

K5ZD                                      2391/124/451   3,968,075
  46/11/ 29  237/16/ 74  312/27/ 86  994/34/125  728/27/110   74/ 9/ 27
KM9P                                      2110/137/461   3,610,724 
  44/12/ 29  184/23/ 71  155/25/ 73 1017/34/138  563/29/116  147/14/ 34 
KE3Q                                      1777/130/464   3,012,170
  46/11/ 32  147/19/ 69  188/27/ 86  527/34/119  741/27/125  127/12/ 33
VO1MP                                     2451/ 82/342   2,836,984
  23/ 6/ 14  316/13/ 62  201/15/ 63  906/25/101 1003/21/100    2/ 2/  2 
W9RE                                      1610/129/437   2,553,226
  45/10/ 27  115/21/ 60  172/26/ 76  605/34/125  578/27/114   95/11/ 35
N2IC/0                                    1703/130/357   2,304,484
  34/12/ 21  139/22/ 47  303/29/ 74 1023/35/120  182/25/ 82   22/ 7/ 13
KE9A                                      1610/116/381   2,268,308
  30/ 9/ 20  104/16/ 56  131/24/ 70  761/32/112  522/26/102   62/ 9/ 21
WZ4F                                      1625/118/365   2,056,131
  30/10/ 20   80/14/ 44  153/22/ 68  725/33/ 99  563/27/104   74/12/ 30
N7AVK                                     1804/117/249   1,823,046
  20/10/ 11  166/21/ 35  371/27/ 58  764/35/ 99  482/23/ 45    1/ 1/  1 
W6XR                                      1302/137/347   1,647,555
  28/ 7/ 20   65/13/ 36  126/22/ 64  420/30/105  589/25/101   73/11/ 21
K9BG                                       548/ 84/224     461,692
  26/ 9/ 17   25/ 8/ 17   30/12/ 21  249/25/ 86  168/22/ 58   50/ 8/ 25
AF7O                                       491/ 74/156     303,830
   6/ 3/  3   33/12/ 16   69/20/ 34  357/30/ 89   26/ 9/ 14    0/ 0/  0 
N9ITX/7                                    416/ 72/167     270,787   
  20/ 9/ 13   28/10/ 18   57/17/ 36   59/25/ 71   52/11/ 29    0/ 0/  0
N5CT                                       110/ 54/ 97      43,639
   0/ 0/  0    0/ 0/  0   21/16/ 19   59/23/ 54   30/15/ 24    0/ 0/  0


Single/OP/LP

WA4ZXA                                    1105/111/364   1,449,225
  33/ 9/ 23   61/12/ 39  120/20/ 62  390/33/106  415/27/105   86/10/ 29
VE3KZ                                     1101/ 87/280   1,052,923
  90/ 5/  6  121/ 9/ 23   60/13/ 38  317/25/ 90  415/23/ 92   98/12/ 31
K0EJ                                       799/102/285     839,790
  24/ 9/ 15   44/10/ 23   71/19/ 45  324/27/ 94  229/25/ 75  107/12/ 33
WA7BNM                                     810/ 98/202     672,600
   2/ 2/  2   36/14/ 18   85/22/ 39  299/32/ 84  382/25/ 56    6/ 3/  3 
KJ4WH                                      587/ 82/247     526,729
  18/ 6/ 14   35/10/ 22   73/15/ 45  150/17/ 63  228/24/ 81   83/10/ 22
XK7CFD                                    1087/ 60/ 94     356.202 
  44/ 4/  4   19/ 3/  3  220/13/ 14  705/22/ 40   87/15/ 29   12/ 3/ 94 
AB5SE                                      436/ 85/199     325,748
   6/ 3/  3   15/ 9/  8   37/16/ 30  174/25/ 69  151/23/ 65   53/ 9/ 24 
AC5BR                                      241/ 62/130     110,976
   1/ 1/  1   25/ 7/ 13   33/10/ 20   83/16/ 35   75/19/ 44   24/ 9/ 17


Single/OP/Assisted

K3WW                                      1485/133/474   2,548,793
  49/12/ 33  131/23/ 77  153/27/ 85  511/30/121  545/27/121   96/14/ 37
AA3JU                                     1108/105/370   1,415,025
  16/ 4/ 10   98/16/ 53   90/18/ 59  333/29/105  444/25/105  127/13/ 38
AA3B                                       989/101/372   1,313,521
  19/ 6/ 15   79/12/ 49  137/30/ 71  316/26/103  334/24/ 98  104/13/ 36
KE3GA                                      753/107/398   1,044,340
  25/ 6/ 22   63/13/ 47  104/22/ 72  244/31/119  244/24/107   73/11/ 31
N8ATR                                      751/118/373   1,015,388
  26/ 9/ 23   83/19/ 56  118/25/ 74  214/34/ 99  262/23/ 94   48/ 8/ 27
N9VHW                                      693/108/337     841,940
  18/ 9/ 12   52/13/ 38   88/19/ 53  270/33/110  213/23/ 94   52/11/ 30
K2WK                                       641/ 91/272     645,414
  18/ 6/ 16   59/15/ 44   82/23/ 56  276/28/ 90  203/17/ 64    3/ 2/  2
W2UP                                       508/ 91/269     512,640
   5/ 3/  4   28/ 9/ 24   89/21/ 55  242/29/ 99  109/22/ 72   35/ 7/ 15
N1CC/2                                     553/ 78/220     460,410
   4/ 2/  2   22/ 7/ 16   26/11/ 23  340/28/ 93  138/25/ 78   23/ 5/  8
KR4UJ                                      405/ 80/210     319,580
   4/ 4/  4   44/12/ 32   11/ 4/  9  171/26/ 74  130/23/ 69   45/11/ 23
KM0L                                       444/ 76/193     314,461
   2/ 2/  2   31/ 9/ 16   67/21/ 36  224/25/ 78  116/17/ 57    4/ 2/  4


Multi/Single

3DA0DX                                    3716/102/318   4,605,720
   1/ 1/  1   13/ 4/  6  212/18/ 36  841/31/ 92 2018/29/107  631/19/ 76 
PI4COM                                    2949/124/492   3,558,632
 261/ 7/ 50  453/12/ 66  620/24/ 91 1030/33/126  531/32/118   54/16/ 41 
RW9OWD                                    2123/ 87/273   1,716,120 
  33/ 7/ 18  167/16/ 43  159/14/ 49  460/26/ 79 1302/22/ 82    2/ 2/  2

KF2ET                                     2900/143/547   5,755,290
  31/10/ 29  284/22/ 84  370/30/ 99 1301/37/144  826/27/138   88/17/ 53 
K8LX                                      1843/125/438   2,950,000 
  28/ 9/ 22   74/18/ 48  172/29/ 83  914/36/146  619/26/113   37/ 7/ 26
K1RX                                      1712/121/451   2,779,348
  21/ 5/ 15   84/20/ 62  121/20/ 77  602/37/131  849/26/131   35/13/ 35
W5KFT                                     1812/148/477   2,700,000
  46/13/ 26  105/25/ 67  493/32/ 96  453/32/122  579/29/116  136/17/ 50 
VE6SV                                     2530/107/288   2,229,380
  43/ 5/  4  418/17/ 34  435/28/ 70 1480/34/121  153/22/ 58    1/ 1/  1 
KB1H                                      1421/118/433   2,203,449
  17/ 5/ 16  140/19/ 64  152/23/ 78  541/32/117  511/25/125   60/14/ 33
K1GW                                      1392/110/396   1,983,520
  24/ 6/ 17   76/15/ 46  160/24/ 79  623/29/113  424/24/113   85/12/ 28
KC7V                                      1628/128/318   1,883,458
  13/10/ 11   26/14/ 19  310/31/ 71  527/34/120  713/28/ 80   39/11/ 17
KV1W                                      1390/109/368   1,846,467
  13/ 6/  9  139/19/ 65  153/25/ 72  519/29/104  540/24/109   26/ 6/  9 
NC0P                                      1138/133/423   1,700,226
  34/11/ 28   91/21/ 58  199/30/ 84  451/34/126  317/26/ 94   46/11/ 32
WA0PUJ                                    1225/121/336   1,363,688
  50/10/ 17   86/18/ 45  124/29/ 76  790/37/119  164/21/ 72    9/ 6/  7
VE6FI                                     1620/ 95/205   1,093,800
  87/ 7/  6  228/15/ 25  240/23/ 42 1001/29/ 89   63/20/ 42    1/ 1/  1
W4ATC                                      798/ 92/294     768,140
   0/ 0/  0   49/11/ 29   83/18/ 50  460/36/138  189/22/ 69   17/ 5/  8


Multi/Multi

J3A                                       8273/138/509  12,643,674
 346/12/ 38  509/19/ 69 1260/23/ 90 2610/34/128 2423/29/118 1125/21/ 66  
GM6V                                      6194/130/591   6,884,829
 421/ 7/ 53  682/18/ 77 1559/26/106 2294/37/161  938/31/134  255/11/ 60

KC1XX                                     5443/151/622  11,050,000 
 216/13/ 41  797/24/102  673/32/113 1858/38/166 1597/28/154  306/16/ 46
K3LR                                      5119/157/625  10,580,000
 165/14/ 41  881/26/ 95  713/34/119 2071/39/180 1074/29/146  215/15/ 44
K1KI                                      3627/150/583   7,258,166
 108/12/ 43  473/23/ 88  477/31/105 1207/39/156 1147/28/141  215/17/ 50
KY3N                                      3628/145/548   6,995,142
 110/13/ 32  336/23/ 81  276/30/ 89 1806/38/173  925/27/135  175/14/ 38
W1FJ                                      3376/144/558   6,733,584
  89/12/ 42  562/25/ 97  300/25/ 92 1349/39/146  910/28/137  166/15/ 44 
N4ZC                                      3331/147/542   6,443,528
  59/10/ 30  318/24/ 82  348/31/ 95 1405/39/158 1002/30/139  199/13/ 38
KS9K                                      2811/144/515   4,817,949
  80/10/ 11  211/24/ 65  299/33/ 93 1371/38/166  783/30/132   67/ 9/ 28
NQ4I                                      2901/145/493   4,451,284
 150/11/ 32  123/22/ 61  213/29/ 85 1414/36/139  813/32/132  188/15/ 44   
W4IY                                      2430/133/482   3,779,790
  88/11/ 30  340/20/ 71  390/28/ 87  902/33/131  511/26/121  199/15/ 42  
K3ANS                                     2093/132/453   3,294,720
  78/11/ 30  302/19/ 45  191/28/ 95  703/35/114  656/27/115  163/12/ 34
K7FR                                       637/ 89/193     489,552
   7/ 5/  4   35/11/ 14   73/21/ 36  387/33/ 95  133/18/ 43    2/ 1/  1


***********************************************************************


73's Jim 
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           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
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>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Tue Oct 29 15:47:33 1996
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:47:33 -0400
Subject: JARTS RTTY 96 FINAL POSTING
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029154733.2d073e74 at interpath.com>

JARTS 1996
RAW SCORES

Compiled by
WA4ZXA
<floydjr at interpath.com>

Date Posted: 10/24/96
********* FINAL POSTING ***************


CLASS                  SCORE     QSO'S      PTS     DIST      DX 
____________________________________________________________________

SINGLE OPERATOR

YL2KF                 174,450     520      1163      24      126
OH2GI                 158,685     464      1065      33      116 
S56A                  134,174     385       919          146  
OH2AQ                 100,575     328       745      27      108
G3YJQ                  49,764     277       638      15       63
VK6GOM                 49,440     209       618      35       47

N2DL                  169,242     485      1263      54       80
WA4ZXA                165,528     498      1254      60       72
AA5AU                 161,876     495      1132      71       72
WB5B                   77,250     332       760      57       45
N1RCT                  56,202     267       646      40       47
KB4GID                 48,024     235       552      44       43
KN6DV                  45,085     280       635      51       20
WA4JQS LP              36,225     200       483      39       36 
NA2K LP                28,359     170       411      29       40
K0BX                   12,648     109       248      29       22
K4GMH                  10,780     103       220      30       19
NA2M                    5,565      70       159      18       17 
K0RC                    1,530      41        85      13        5
AB7NV                     675      20        45      13        2

20Meters
SM3KOR                 28,362     203       489      17       41

MULTI-OPERATOR

AB5KD                 522,753    1053      2387     103      116  

**********************************************************************

Also NO ATTACHED FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

73's Jim
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>From becker at SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker)  Tue Oct 29 16:00:24 1996
From: becker at SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker) (Tony and Celia Becker)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:00:24 -0700
Subject: dupe/no dupe - Part II
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029160024.0b77edc2 at pop.a001.sprintmail.com>

Hi All!

At 07:12 AM 10/29/96 -0500, Tom, NM1Q wrote:
>snip<

>You call him, he tells you
>you're dupe and gives chapter and verse (i.e.;
>time/date of the Q)!  You accept the answer,
>but check back in the log and find no T anything
>in the log for the time he mentioned.  You
>zip back, call him again, but he ain't buying
>a duplicate Q - no way, no how...

>snip<

The rules never seem to cover this regular occurance, but then rules can't
cover everything.

I log the contact as a current contact and put a note in the log stating 
what he told me about the prior QSO.  eg. "; TA2KK sez dupe @1455Z day 1"

Sometimes I have to wait for him to make another QSO to get the exchange, 
and if a serial number is involved, I use that number.

After the contest, I make certain the logging software counts the QSO correctly, (some overzealous person might call this massaging), send in
my entry and sleep with a clear conscience.

No log checker has ever told me this practice is unacceptable , but then my scores from my home station are never high enough to get maximum scrutiny.

73
AE0M, Tony Becker - becker at sprintmail.com - Silicon Valley, U.S.A.

>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Tue Oct 29 15:47:19 1996
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:47:19 -0400
Subject: CQWW SSB 96 Scores II
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029154719.27d7bfd8 at interpath.com>

CQWW SSB 1996
RAW SCORES

Compiled by
WA4ZXA
(floydjr at interpath.com)

Date Posted: 10/29/96


CALL            HRS       SCORE       QSO'S     PTS    ZONES     DX
_______________________________________________________________________

S/OP/HP/Unassisted

YB1AQS          34     3,247,398      2433     7029     119     343
OH1EH                  2,065,100      2249     3860     116     419
9K2HN                  1,728,520      1951     5470      77     239
DL6MHW          26       447,392       707     1271      83     269
OH8BQT                   415,808       719     1424      72     220
OI6KZP                   337,940       676     1108      66     239
DL4YAO          15       139,499       387      701         199

K5ZD            34     3,968,075      2391     6901     124     451
KM9P            44     3,610,724      2110              137     461
KE3Q                   3,012,170      1777              130     464
VO1MP           37     2,836,984      2451     6691      82     342
W9RE                   2,553,226      1610     4511     129     437
N2IC                   2,304,484      1703              130     357
KE9A                   2,268,308      1610              116     381
WZ4F                   2,056,131      1625              118     365
N7AVK                  1,823,046      1804              117     249
W6XR            30     1,647,555      1302              137     347
KE3GA           36     1,044,340       753     2068     107     398
K3JT            40       641,892       661               95     264
K9BG            24       461,692       548               84     224
AA7VY                    334,361       549     1399      82     157
AF7O                     303,830       491     1321      74     156
N9ITX/7         18       270,787       416     1133      72     167
N5CT/7                    43,639       110      289      54      97
N7UJJ            6        35,728       150      393      37      59
WI2E             2        15,133       169      409      18      19
V36LB                      3,315       115      221       8       7


S/OP/LP/Unassisted

GW0GEI          41       343,360       661     1160      64     232

WA4ZXA          43     1,449,225      1105     3051     111     364
VE3KZ           41     1,052,923      1101     2869      87     280
K0EJ            36       839,790       799     2170     102     285
WA7BNM          25       672,600       810               98     202
KJ4WH                    526,729       587     1601      82     247
XK7CFD                   356,202      1087     1557      60      94  
AA0SQ                    321,328       459     1208      74     192
AA1EY           30       302,588       438     1196      61     192
AC5BR           26       110,976       241      578      62     130
WB0OLA           2        10,350        61      150      27      42
AA4LR            4         2,368        25       64      16      21 


S/OP/Assisted

IU2M (IK2SFZ)          1,624,145      1803              105     382
PY1CAS                   611,456       826     2248      79     193

K3WW                   2,548,793      1485     4199     133     474
AA3JU                  1,415,025      1108     2979     105     370
AA3B                   1,313,521       989     2777     101     372
KE3GA                  1,044,340       753     2068     107     398
N8ATR           39     1,015,388       751     2068     118     373
N9VHW                    841,940       693     1892     108     337
K2WK            12       645,414       641     1778      91     272
W2UP             8       512,640       508     1424      91     269
WA1IML          12       504,600       610               69     221
N1CC/2          12       460,410       553     1545      78     220
AB5SE           28       325,748       436     1147      85     199
KR4UJ                    319,580       405     1102      80     210
KM0L            16       314,461       444     1169      76     193
AB6FO            6        75,082       159               47     126
W4/YV5DTA                  7,366        49      127      17      41


S/OP/QRP

N1AFC                    352,764       524               56     183
KA1CZF                   158,148       306      828      48     143


Single Band

160M
VE7IN                      3,480       123      232       7       8 

80M
G3WGN           36       125,580       785     1092      22      93

AA8U     HP               56,494       337      601      22      72 
AE6H     HP                            111               19      55  

40M
LA4O                       3,168        84       88       5      31

N4DVW                     64,790       214               29      81
K8UNP                     60,720       199      552      27      83
KW4T     LP               39,221       164      431      21      70
WA2BFW                    38,808       161               23      65

20M
OK1RI    HP     38     1,442,688      2909               39     165 
S56A     HP              571,103      1377     2899     157      40

K2SS                   1,017,152      1877               37     147
WT1S                     772,161      1585     4569      36     133
K9JF/7          26       380,000       755     2110      38     142
K1MNS (WT1S)    28                    1585               36     133 

15M
T77WI                    181,578       756     1713      30      76

N4BP     HP              357,588       871     2322      29     125
WA2QNW   HP              219,780       554               27     108
W5ASP           12       111,750       342               27      98
KJ6HO    LP               90,155       345      949      27      68 

10M
PU1LJB   LP               44,772       259      546      25      57

W4YV     HP               47,058       319               16      50


Multi/Single

SN2B                   7,542,000      4431              156     615
3DA0DX                 4,605,720      3716    10966     102     318
PI4COM                 3,558,632      2949     5777     124     492
RW9OWD                 1,716,120      2123     4767      87     273
SM7PKK                   800,584      1109     1832      83     354

KF2ET                  5,755,290      2900     8341     143     547
K8LX                   2,950,000      1843              125     438  
K1RX                   2,779,348      1712     4859     121     451
W5KFT                  2,700,000      1812              148     477
VA6JY (@VE6JY)         2,360,000      2672     5626     115     306
VE6SV                  2,229,380      2530     5644     107     288
KB1H                   2,203,449      1421     3999     118     433
K1GW                   1,983,520      1392     3920     110     396
KC7V                   1,883,458      1628     4223     128     318
KV1W                   1,846,467      1390     3871     109     368
NC0P                   1,700,226      1138              133     423
K3MD                   1,662,282      1135              130     428
WA0PUJ                 1,363,688      1225              121     336
VE6FI                  1,093,800      1620               95     205
W4ATC                    768,140       798     1990      92     294 


Multi/Multi

J3A                   12,643,674      8273              138     509
GM6V                   6,884,829      6194              130     591

KC1XX                 11,050,000      5443              151     622
K3LR                  10,580,000      5119              157     625
K1KI                   7,258,166      3627     9902     150     583
KY3N                   6,995,142      3628              145     548
W1FJ                   6,733,585      3376     9592     144     558
N4ZC                   6,443,528      3335              147     542
KS9K                   4,817,949      2811     7311     144     515
NQ4I                   4,541,284      2901     7118     145     493
W4IY                   3,779,790      2430              133     482
K3ANS                  3,294,720      2093              132     453
KG6LF                    688,564       810     2179      97     219
K7FR                     489,552       637     1736      89     193


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OPERATORS LIST

CALL                 OPERATORS          

Multi/Single

W4ATC           KS4XG,KT4LD,N3QYE
K8LX            K8LX,WA8ZDT    
WA0PUJ          WA0PUJ,KC0ZC,WB0O
NC0P            NC0P,KF0H,WA0FLS,WO0V,WD0GVY,WA0ETC,WR0G
KF2ET           AA2DU,KE2NL,WR2I,K2UU
3DA0DX          ZS6WPX,ZS6BRZ,WJ2O
K3MD            K3MD,N3PUR,KD3SF,AA3AZ
VE6FI           VE6BIC,VE6AQ,VE6AQE
K1GW            K1GW,K1LL,W6PH
SM7PKK          SM7PKK,SM6CAS
VA6JY           VE6JY,VE6FR,VE6SLV,VE6LDX,VE6DGG,VE6BF,VE6LCB
PI4COM          PA3BBP,PA3BWD,PA3ERC,PA3EWP,PA3FQA,PA3GBQ
SN2B            SP2FAX,SP3RBR,SP8NR,SP3RBI
KB1H            KB1H,AA1CE,K1DW,K1EBY,NB1U,WA1RLV
K41W            KV1W,W1CSM,N6RFM
K1RX            K1RX,KF1V,K1EPJ
RW9OWD          UA9OIL,RW9OW,UA9OLW,UA9OIF,UA9OIW,UA9OAO
VE6SV           VE6SV,VE6VW,VE7GAS,VO1CV



Multi/Multi

KG6LF           KG6LF,WA6QQF
NQ4I            NQ4I,K4BAI,WI4R,KF4CI,KQ4HC,KM4HH,NZ3I,K4MZU,KJ4FW
KS9K            KS9K,KA9FOX,K9GS,K9PW,NB9C,N9AU,WB9TIY,WE9V
KC1XX           KC1XX,KM3T,KC1F,AD1C,K1DG,WZ1R,KB1AWE,K1EA,AA1ND,N1VTN
W4IY            KC4RFM,AC4XT,KT4SC,N8NEV,KJ4VG,WD4KXB,KA4RRU,WB4NFS,
                WB4RMJ,KO4FM,KC4ZHQ,AE4DG,AA3DX
J3A             W8KKF,WA8LOW,N9NS,WZ8D,WA8NJR,W9INX,IV3NVN,IV3TMV,WB8GEX
K7FR            K7FR,KI7YO,W7WMO,N7AUV
KY3N            N3IDP,WB3FIZ,WB3LFZ,K3OX,K3WJV,W3FV,KQ2M,KY3N     
N4ZC            N4ZC,WZ3Q,WD4BTF,KI4HN,K4MQG,AA4SQ,K4UHL,WA4UNZ,KU4V,
                WB5M,W5VWMN,KB9MS
WF1J            K1JKS,K1XM,NB1B,K1CB,W1KM,W1FJ,K2AJY,WB2DND,WT1O,W1PH,
                WA1KSY,KA1ZAK
K3LR            N3BJ,WR3D,KG8GO,K3LR,K8GL,N9HZQ,N8IRL,WA8YVR,WD8IXE,
                WR3G,K8CX,ND8L
K1KI            K1CC,K1KI,KA1TAF,KF2FB,KF2XK,KM1P,NX1H,W1OD,WA2STM
K3ANS           N3RCA,WB6OKK,NY3C,N3MTU,WF3H,N3IYX,K3ZTJ,N2BIM,N2KJM,
                K3ANS
GM6V            GM3WOJ,GM4AFF,GM4BAP,GM4CXM,GM4IGS,GM4TXX,GM4YXI,GM0NAI

*********************************************************************

REMEMBER NO ATTACHMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY WILL NOT BE POSTED !!!!

73's Jim
           ********************************************************** 
           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
           *                                                        *
           * Amateur Call:              >> WA4ZXA <<                *
           * Packet Node:               >> N4ZC <<                  *
           * Internet Address:          >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
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>From mats.persson at mbox2.swipnet.se (SM7PKK)  Tue Oct 29 15:38:54 1996
From: mats.persson at mbox2.swipnet.se (SM7PKK) (SM7PKK)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:38:54 +0100
Subject: Dupes
Message-ID: <3.0b36.32.19961029162607.00700108 at mailbox.swip.net>

Hi all,


 I always work the dupes (when they call me!) even if my computer show DUPE.=
 That way if my first QSO obviosly not is in the other guys log the second=
 one is.  =20

This way the score is correct on both sides and I end up with a dupe in the=
 log which is ofcourse a 0 point QSO. This is also a reason for not removing=
 dupe QSO=B4s from the final log sent to the contest comittee just mark=
 them.


I think that it must be better for all parts if the dupe QSO is made as=
 otherwise there will be a discrepancy between the logs.  Making the dupe=
 QSO ALWAYS take shorter time than disrupting a pileup to let someon

know he is a dupe as he might want to check what is wrong and might insist=
 on working you anyway.


Let=B4s assume that I work P5A on 80 M. In my computer it is logged correct.=
 But due to some mysterious

reason P5A logged me on 40 M (could be that he just worked a multiplier on=
 that band and forgot to change back)

When I later call him on 40M he says dupe and wont let me work him. Now if I=
 just give up I loose the multiplier on 80 and 40 due to his error.=
 Furthermore he looses one multiplier on 80 M as that QSO will show an error=
 in the log when the logs are matched and he will also loose the multiplier=
 on 40 as maybe I was the only SM he worked. (my wish!?)


This means there will be dupes in the log ofcourse but on the other hand the=
 QSO=B4s are there so the contest-committe will quickly see that the first=
 bad QSO is logged on the wrong band and then they can remove that

QSO for both participants if they want however the second real QSO with be=
 in both logs and thus be counted as it should be.


If you say to a station that he is a dupe what does that mean? Well to me it=
 means either you have something wrong in your log or the other station has=
 an error in his. Since you are not allowed to "massage the log" this means=
 that your so called first QSO can=B4t be counted as it will not show up in=
 the other guy=B4s log.

No matter who is at fault when the dupe appears in the log the thing should=
 be that now you have a chance of making a real QSO. Then ofcourse working=
 the dupes will give you an idea about how bad your or other peoples=
 operating are as the more dupes you have showing up at the end the more you=
 need to look into why the dupes are showing up at all. As said it can be=
 your fault but it can also be the other operator.


73 de Mats SM7PKK=20

  =20

Working a dupe is ok, not marking them is a no-no!



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