[CQ-Contest] Re: Choice of CW Narrow filters

Bud Hippisley k2kir at telenet.net
Sat Apr 17 14:29:46 EDT 1999


Yep, that's it!!!  (I thought of it about six hours after posting my original message, when I was nowhere near an e-mail connection.  Thanks for the assist.

Bud, K2KIR

At 10:26 AM 1999-04-17 +0100, G4TSH wrote:
>
>I think this is what is called Stochastic Resonance.
>
>
>
>At 21:18 16/04/99 , Bud Hippisley wrote:
>>
>>Well, there's a name for this effect, which has been documented
>>previously in other fields.  In my advanced years I can't remember it,
>>though.  The essence, as I recall, is that the "right" amount of
>>background noise can enhance your perception of the desired signal.
>>I, too, find it easier to pick weak CW signals out of the noise with
>>the 2 kHz SSB filters (stopped down to about 1.2 kHz with the VBT
>>control) than with the 500 Hz CW filters at full BW, but I've also
>>used the effect (and in fact first noticed it) when trying to analyze
>>a strange noise from the car while driving.  Turning on the radio and
>>having some background music actually enhanced my ability to hear the
>>alien noise from the engine compartment.  Talk to the psycho-acoustics
>>specialists -- they'll know the name of it!
>>
>>Bud, K2KIR
>>
>>At 11:07 AM 99/04/16 -0600, you wrote:
>>>
>>>n6tr at teleport.com wrote:
>>>.
>>>> 
>>>> I recently discovered the power of this DSP when doing moonbounce
>>>> work on six meters.  I have always thought that you had to use really
>>>> narrow filters on your receiver to hear weak EME signals.  However,
>>>> what I found was that it was EASIER to copy weak EME signals using
>>>> the SSB bandwidth positions!
>>>
>>>I've observed the same thing on HF.  In the absence of strong QRM, a weak
>>>signal is just as easy, or easier, to copy with a wide bandwidth.  Since
>wide
>>>filter bandwidth clearly must reduce the S/N ratio, the effective bandwidth
>>>organic DSP must be much smaller.  Quite amazing.
>>>
>>>73,
>>>
>>>Scott  K9MA
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>>>Scott Ellington
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>>>Madison, Wisconsin    USA
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