[CQ-Contest] [CQ-CONTEST] IDing During a CQ

[Pete Smith]

At 10:16 AM 12/12/00 -0800, Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
>
>I think a great way to tell if your choice of phonetics is effective is to
look at the UBN report and see how others bust your call.  While I'm a
proponent of the use of the "correct" phonetics, I don't believe blind
adherence to this tenet is intelligent.  Adapting to the situation is a
golden rule in contesting.

Amen to that, certainly  I'd only add that I've observed that "Nancy" seems
to be a lot more effective than any of the "Oh" words as the phonetic for
"N", and that "radio" cuts through a lot better than "Romeo."  In a lot of
cases, I just use my call without phonetics -- using "Zed" instead of "Zee"
helps there.  

Some of this goes all the way back to call selection, where guys like K3ZO
get a headstart, though I've noticed that he doesn't skip phonetics much.
It also doesn't hurt at all to have been using the same call for 23 years
as I have, now that so many people are using master call-sign databases.
Even though I'm a little pistol by comparison, it's amazing how many folks
on the other end audibly go through the progression "N4... N4Z... N4ZR?"

A final note -- some calls are inherently problematical on CW, too.  If I
had an H a V or a B in my call anyplace that a number could logically go,
I'd change it.  I know that most of the ones I bust reflect that problem.
In theory, my call should get busted a lot as "NV7R", but so far so good.
Maybe 3 or 4 or 5 dits are harder to hear accurately than just 2.   

73, Pete N4ZR

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>From Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com  Wed Dec 13 05:31:34 2000
From: Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:31:34 -0800
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cheaters <never|?> prosper?
References: <20001212005746.A2852 at w9wi.com> <3A36D2FD.364F08C at swbell.net>
Message-ID: <076901c064c5$f5644ce0$6401a8c0 at neptune>


Hi Dave,

Most of the major contests use computers to cross check log submissions. If a person
did what you described, there log would register an unusually high percentage
of uniques (stations that nobody else worked) when cross checked against the rest
of the logs in the database. This would undoubtedly raise some eyebrows on the contest 
committee and invite additional scrutiny of that particular log. 

Of course, personal integrity is the preferable route to accurate logging. 

73 de Mike, W4EF....................... 


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> 
> This may be a crazy question but what keeps a person, other than ones own
> integrity, from downloading a listing of lets say 500 no code techs callsigns
> with QTH from the database before the contest begins and then interlacing them
> into their log during the contest?  There are probably very few people that
> actually look at each individuals log.  I bet that the log checking programs do
> not check callsigns for appropriate HF privileges.  I would have never thought
> of it except for all the alleged corruption rumors mentioned during the recent
> presidential election.
> 
> 73,
> Dave KG0US
> 
> Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
> 
> > At least this guy didn't pretend he couldn't hear:
> >
> > One operator around here told of an incident where a W3 station, without
> > inquiring whether the frequency was occupied, simply plopped down on our
> > guy's run frequency & began CQing.  When informed there was already someone
> > there, said W3 said "I'm louder than you are, so I guess it's my frequency
> > now".
> >
> > I think in next year's CQ WW SSB, I'm going to call the 40-meter DX on their
> > own frequency.  If I can't find an open run frequency between 14.150 and
> > 14.350, I'll try running on 14.353.  NAQP time - can't copy that weak W7's
> > name & state?  No worries, I can always look it up on www.ualr.edu.  Short
> > on mults in my SO-unassisted entry?  I guess that's what DX Summit is for.
> >
> > What, that's illegal and/or unethical?  So what is intentionally stealing a
> > frequency you KNOW is occupied?  That's as much a part of contesting as
> > steroids are part of the Olympics...  (did I just un-make my point?<g>)
> > --
> > Doug Smith W9WI
> > Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
> > http://www.w9wi.com
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