[CQ-Contest] Re: Bad practices identified

[Bob Naumann - N5NJ]

KC5AJX Says:

> Well the rules state "one transmitted signal allowed at a time" thus
there
> is no way you could claim more than one frequency. If you QSY then
the
> frequency you left is up for grabs.

Correct.  However, SO2R operators do not "QSY" - more on that later.

> Now the way things are now it is now it is  "Might makes right!!!"
if you
> are strong enough to take the frequency back then it is yours.

Correct.  It's always been this way.  Try working JA's from the East
coast and have a K7** pull up within a KC or so and start running JA's
you can't hear and blows you off the frequency.  Happens all the time.
This is part of the competition.  Granted it makes you angry, but this
is what it is.

> ...the SO2R stations will still try and  have 2 frequencies 1 run
and
>  another multi frequency and they will still run
> us little stations off their run frequency and we will still
complain about > it and nothing will change unless the SO2R operators
decide to be
> gentlemen.

Incorrect.

This is not how SO2R works.  The SO2R operator concentrates his
efforts on running.  While he is transmitting a CQ, or especially in
the case of a long exchange as in Sweepstakes, he tunes around on a
second receiver while he, or his keyer/computer/whatever transmits his
exchange.  During the period of copying the other stations' exchange,
he will dump his call in to a "multiplier" on the other radio.  This
is done manually or via some sort of automation (keyer etc.).

The idea is to manage this complex situation in a way that seems that
there is no period of time where he's "gone" from the run frequency.
If he moves a multiplier (as in a dX contest) the situation is
similar, but with the short exchange, it even becomes easier to pause
briefly and work the guy on the "mult" frequency.

> If they come back to their run frequency and it is being used( I
consider
> calling CQ being used a legitimate signal is being transmitted on
the
> frequency) then they need to say to themselves " well I need to find
another
> run frequency" instead of starting a frequency fight. These fight
only hurt > both scores.

This is not what occurs.  The SO2R guy (if doing it right) does not
"come back" - because he's never left - in fact, he's always listening
there and the instant that someone says "QRZett?"  he'd transmit
saying the frequency is in use or calling a CQ or some such thing.  No
delay.

It's not as though he's using one radio, has to change bands, tune up,
work the multiplier and then switch bands, tune up again, and then
re-capture "his" frequency.  This all happens with no delay
whatsoever.

* This is the advantage of using two radios as a single op and defines
SO2R.*

> Now I know I have offended every SO2R operator out there but if you
are a
> frequency bully then all the above applies if you are a considerate
SO2R op > then it does not apply to you and I applaud you methods.

No one is getting offended and if they do, tough.  This is a complex
issue and most of the concern and criticism is expressed by people who
do not understand SO2R.

> Yes I know that not
> everyone can operate SO2R and it is a skill some can learn and some
can't
> but does that mean that since you can work 2 rigs at the same time
that you > get 2 frequencies?


Again, the SO2R station does not "get" two frequencies.  N6TR said
that he worked 80 qsos on his second radio in CW SS.  80 Qsos spread
out over 24 hours.  Hmmm....  He made more than that during the first
hour alone!  The perceived impact of SO2R using "two frequencies" just
does not happen.  I did SO2R for the first time in last years' SS and
I had a blast.  I worked about 10 second radio QSOS.  I don't think
that either someone who makes 80 qsos or 10 qsos on a second radio is
a band-hogging bully.

> If you feel you have to flame me go ahead

Rick - this is not a flame.  I think there is a great deal of
misunderstanding of how SO2R works and what the impact is to the bands
and other operators.  Doing it effectively is almost undetectable
unless you're "monitoring" some one who you think is an SO2R station.

If you're monitoring someone else looking for this sort of evidence,
you're not serious about competing - are you ?

73,
Bob N5NJ

Robert E. Naumann
N5NJ / V26O
N5NJ at arrl.net
www.qsl.net/n5nj
Plano, TX  USA
ex KR2J, V26RN, W6V, WA2OVE


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