[CQ-Contest] Understanding rules (further to Penalties)

[Gilmer, Mike]

There's a difference between QSOs and QSO-Points.  The penalties are dealt
with in QSO-Points "space".

If the "bad" QSO were a 2-pointer, then 6 additional, penalty QSO points are
removed.  If the "bad" QSO were a zero pointer, then 0 penalty points.

Section 4, first paragraph of:

http://www.cqww.com/ubn-nil.html

says:
"In addition, a point penalty of 3 times the claimed-contact-point-value is
assessed."

For a philosophical spin (another recent thread), later in that same (short)
section it says:
The penalty system...is intended to strongly discourage logging of callsign
guesses. 

It really is a "good read" for contesters.  Realize, however, that this is
CQ's modus operandi, not anyone else's.  It seems very well thought out.

I agree, and have said, that the RULES mention but do not clearly explain
the "3 times" penalty and, therefore, do a disservice.  I believe they
should refer to or concede entirely to the separate, albeit complex, UBN
guide.  Some will say (and I won't disagree) that the UBN guide scares away
the casual reader.  That's a good enough reason to have the RULES say at
least SOMETHING about penalties, but it needs to be clear. 

73
Mike
N2MG

	AD1C wrote:

> At 09:11 AM 9/14/2000 -0400, George Fremin III - K5TR wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 03:32:04PM +0300, Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote:
> >
> > > The CQWW rules say,  XI.10 Duplicate contacts and broken QSOs penalty:
> 
> > three
> > > (3) additional contacts removed.
> > > OK, WHAT 3 additional contacts? I can can  see several readings:
> >
> > > - 3 times the points' value of the QSO being deleted for being dupe or
> > > broken.
> >
> >It is the above - they dont really remove 3 QSOs - they just
> >deduct the point value of 3 QSOs from your QSO points.
> 
> Which 3 QSOs?  3-pointers, 2-pointers, 1-pointers or 0-pointers?  If I
> bust 
> a stateside callsign (0 points) then they should deduct 0 points from my 
> log.  If I bust a European, then I expect 9 points to be removed.
> 
> All of this needs to be spelled out EXPLICITLY in the rules!
> 
> 73 - Jim AD1C
> 


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