[CQ-Contest] Dinged Good QSOs

Guy Olinger, K2AV k2av at contesting.com
Sat Aug 4 17:48:15 EDT 2001


If you want us to log them all, then allow us the ability to NO-QSO the
ones we suspect are going to generate us a penalty if we leave them in
there. Otherwise, forget it.

It's as simple as that.

73
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Guy Olinger, K2AV
Apex, NC, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "k8cc" <k8cc at mediaone.net>
To: "Bill Coleman" <aa4lr at arrl.net>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dinged Good QSOs


>
> At 09:55 AM 8/3/01 -0400, Bill Coleman wrote:
> >Yes, I remember putting in a 20 Q log for the CQWW CW a few years
back,
> >only to have my score reduced by 60% - primarily due to stateside
stations
> >who didn't bother to log my QSO. ARGH!
>
> I do the logchecking for the ARRL 160M and ARRL 10M contests for the
> ARRL.  We definitely practice the "innocent until proven guilty"
approach
> which, as N6TR has pointed out, sometimes allows busted QSOs to be
counted
> as good.
>
> Writing programs to cross-check actual QSO data has been one of the
most
> challenging software tasks I have ever encountered.  Its not too hard
when
> both ends of the QSO are present - by looking at the callsigns and
> exchanges at both ends, the vast majority of cases can be resolved.
BTW,
> we'd have a lot easier time of it if more contesters would LEARN TO
SET
> THEIR CLOCK/CALENDARS ACCURATELY.
>
> However, in certain cases it appears that QSOs at one end or the other
were
> omitted.  This makes it *VERY* hard to correlate QSOs, particularly if
> busted information is involved.  We check logs by validating QSO
> information first, then duping.  In cases where duplicate QSOs are
> involved, if an entrant busts the first QSO with a station, the second
> (i.e. "dupe") QSO can be counted as good if the exchanges are OK.
However,
> if the station being worked does not log the second QSO (because its a
> dupe) the entrant cannot get credit for the QSO - in fact, it will
turn up
> as a NIL!
>
> Therefore, my plea to the contesters of the world is IF YOU WORK A
STATION
> (i.e., send an exchange) LOG THE QSO.  If you don't, you might be
hurting
> someone at the other end who thinks he's had a legitimate QSO with
you.  It
> does not hurt you to do this - your logging program shows your real
time
> score less dupes and no contest that I know of penalizes entrants for
> excessive dupes.  Furthermore (at least the way we check logs) a dupe
QSO
> is "nulled out" for scoring and checking purposes - i.e., you can't
"bust"
> a dupe.
>
> Logs which are complete, showing every QSO made (dupe or not) help the
> logchecker in many ways and will cut down on the number of "good" QSOs
> which turn up as "bad" in the logchecking.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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