[CQ-Contest] re: SS observations ( kinda long)

Wed Nov 7 14:38:42 EST 2001

I think George makes a key point here. People keep talk about declining
activity, but are overall scores really dropping? What would be interesting
to study is the overall trend between Saturday night standings and final
scores.
I haven't looked at the data, but my suspicion is that the prevalance of
SO2R
allows everyone to clean up - working the bulk of particpants on Saturday
night,
thus leaving fewer stations to work on Sunday. Same number of stations to
work, but they are worked out more quickly due to improved efficiencies in
station design and computer software technology.

Anyone studied this?

Mike, W4EF.........................

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii at kkn.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] re: SS observations ( kinda long)

>
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:45:23AM -0800, Jeffrey Clarke wrote:
> >   KI9A wrote :
> >
> >   Well, I sit here Sunday night after another fun SSCW.  I can't help
> > to ponder if (when?) the CAC may change the SS rules to help cure the
> > Sunday doldrums.......
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >  I totally agree with Chuck's comments. After spending last weekend
> > running guys at 200 + and hour at PJ2Z I had practically no motivation
>
> If you would like to run 200 hours this might be what you need:
>
> http://plaza16.mbn.or.jp/~masiii/
>
>
> > to go do Sweepstakes and maybe average 60 or so an hour. ( even less on
> > Sunday) I was planning on maybe doing a SOLP but opted to just go to
>
> The ARRL November Sweepstakes is a really cool contest.
>
> - The exchange is long and very diffrent.
>
> - It is not CQ WW - it is not designed to be CQ WW or anything else.
>
> - You can only work guys on one band - makes it possible
>   to do well from almost anywhere in the country.
>   (The high claimed scores for the high power catagory have
>    stations from all over the country in the top ten.)
>
>   http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/200111/msg00335.html
>
> - There are folks who we work every year in SS.  Many of these
>   guys do not do any ohter contests seriously but they get on
>   in SS and do the whole thing and have a great time.
>
> - I like the SS, I like it just like it is, it is fun.
>
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/ssb-ss.html
>
> - K5ZD really likes the SS too.
>
> http://www.k5zd.com/scores/k5zd_sscw.htm
>
> One thing you might notice is that the scores in this contest
> are higher now than they were in the early '80s.
> K5ZD scores:
>
> Year Station   QSOs  Finish
> --- -------   ----  ------
> 1980    K5TM   1133   2nd
> 1981 N5AU   1246 1st
> 1982 N5AU   1216   1st
> 1983 N5AU      1278   1st
> 1984 N5AU   1187   1st
>
> Since the top slots of past few years have been
> making about 1400+ QSOs I dont see how anyone could say
> the activity is declining.
>
> Doing this contest well is hard work.
>
> I have done 24 hours of SSB SS and been more tired then I was after
> doing 47 hours of the the CQ WW SSB contest a few weeks ago.
>
> There are many skills that need to be mastered to do well in a contest
> - one of them is how to keep the rate up when things slow down.  It is
> very easy to stay fired up and focused when things are going good with
> high rates.  But it takes something extra to squeeze every last QSO
> out of a contest when things are slow and you are not sure what band
> you should be on.  Going 100 and hour is easy, turning a 25 hour into
> a 35 hour takes the skill of a real operator. It is slow hours that
> separate the pups from the big dogs.
>
> I love SS.
>
> As Wayne W5XD said,
>
> "Go break someone else's contest, please."
>
>
> --
>
> George Fremin III
> Johnson City, Texas             "Experiment trumps theory."
> K5TR (ex.WB5VZL)                            -- Dave Leeson W6NL
> geoiii at kkn.net
> 830-868-2510
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From Tyler Stewart" <k3mm at ex-pressnet.com  Wed Nov  7 05:23:34 2001
From: Tyler Stewart" <k3mm at ex-pressnet.com (Tyler Stewart)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:23:34 -0000
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS observations ( kinda long)
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I thought it was the pants we were trying to lose??

Anyway, you got that right on NAQP.  It's definitely the most contesting fun
you can have without putting up multiple towers or flying to a foreign
country!

73, Ty K3MM

----- Original Message -----
From: <hwardsil1 at mindspring.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS observations ( kinda long)

>
> We already have these contests - they're called North American QSO
Parties.  10 hours out of 12, low-power, work stations once per band.
They're the most fun you can have with your shirt on, right Gator?
>
> 73, Ward N0AX
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Sylvan Katz <jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Of course -- one way to eliminate the Sunday afternoon blues would be to
> change the rules to allow you to work a competitor once on each band BUT
let
> the multiplier only counts once. This would allow "Joe Tribander" and "Joe
> low band wire stringer" to have a lot more action --- day and night!
>
> BUT when was the last time you saw a contest rule changed because of a
> discussion on an email list? :-)
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
>
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