[CQ-Contest] September VHF Pins Discontinued

Fri Nov 9 11:00:00 EST 2001

The ARRL Contest Branch has announced that participation pins for two ARRL
Contests - the September VHF QSO Party and the RTTY Roundup - have been
discontinued.

"We have reviewed the various pins programs, and regret that we have had to
drop the pins for these two contests," says ARRL Contest Branch Manager Dan
Henderson, N1ND.  "The decision is not based on lack of support for the
contest.  Rather, sales for neither pin approached the breakeven point, so
they were discontinued."

If you ordered pins for the 2001 ARRL September VHF QSO Party, you should
have received a reimbursement check.  Pins for the 2001 RTTY Roundup are
still available as long as the supply lasts.

The other ARRL contest pins - Sweepstakes CW, Sweepstakes Phone and
International DX Contest - as well as the November Sweepstakes "clean sweep"
mugs will continue to be offered.

Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager

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>From Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com  Fri Nov  9 16:11:46 2001
From: Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:11:46 -0800
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime Scoring Site
References: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKAEGADOAA.k0luz at topsusa.com>
Message-ID: <0a7201c16939$3c264d40$ede3c23f at kr6x.org>

We'd all be pleased to see the invention of new ways to improve
the "spectator sports" aspects of our beloved hobby, but this is
not the top priority.  The top priority is making the competitive
field fair and fun.  I'd enjoy, for instance, seeing a "news event"
simulcast of the CQWW showing sounds and faces of the
operators in action.

At the same time I realize that the introduction of anything that
would unsettle the competitive balance and result in an unfair
competition would damage contesting beyond belief.

----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz at topsusa.com>
To: "cq contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime Scoring Site

>
>
> My thoughts interspersed among the comments
>
> 73
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
> >
> > >One problem is that giving away your score in real time helps
> > >others to overtake you, if needed, or helps others to stay ahead
> > >of you if already ahead.
> >
> > Good point - didn't think of that.  I guess I was mostly thinking
> > about it in terms of attracting others to the sport/hobby.
>
> It would be very interesting and add another element to the
participants of
> the contest.  Why does everything have to be so "secret"?  Going
back to
> NASCAR,  do they make the cars invisible so that they can "protect"
their
> information?
>
> >
> > >In the last minutes of the contest you could make a decision
whether to
> > >make a band change or stay put, etc., based on the knowledge
> > >that you needed a given level of performance to win.
> >
> > And this is placing more importance on the amount of technology
> > available to the operator,  and less on her knowledge of
propagation
> > and skill.  Another good point.
>
> It's another advance in technology and if that's a problem... Ban
the
> computer,  ban memory keys or dvp's,  ban SO2R,  and antennas above
35' in
> height!  You can't stop progress Brother....
>
>
> >
> > > Drawing a parallel with auto racing, under the present system,
without
> > >realtime scoring information, each entrant competes on a
> > >different racetrack with no view of his competitors position
> > >relative to his own.
> >
> > This was the exact analogy I was making in my mind when I
> > was thinking about this idea.  More exciting for the spectators,
> > but the race team *must* have this information available to them
> > at all times in order to remain competitive.  Did that guy take 2
tires
> > or 4?  Did he take 2 hours off time or 4?  Guess that's why all
> > the race teams have small tv dishes in their pits.
>
> I believe it would add another very interesting element to the fray.
In
> fact,  you might even get some "others" because they can set up real
live
> competitions with a group.  Some of the real techie groups might see
this as
> a neat thing to do with the computer.  Let's go after those gamers!
>
> >
> > And certainly another catagory (SO/REALTIME/ASSISTED) [ugh]
> > wouldn't help, as the info is freely available to everyone.  I
should've
> > thought this out a lil more,  perhaps left it in my outbox until
the
> > caffeine wore off.  Gotta admit though,  it would be pretty cool.
>
> This is different because the participant is the one who decides if
they
> want to be part of real time.  Assisted is not in the control of the
> participant,  but the spotter.  So it could be another category, but
why?
>
>
> >
> > Rich, KA8OKH
> >
> >
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> > <http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw/>
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