Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] Polling

[Barry]

Jim,
I wonder if the surveys included and were cross-correlated to 
purchases of amateur-related equipment? I believe that would 
provide much more valuable "bottom line" information, not only to 
the League, but to the advertisers.
Barry W2UP

On 13 Feb 02, at 9:52, jmax at attglobal.net wrote:

> 
> Jim -
> 
> The survey was adjusted to be representative of all
> ARRL members, which consists of lots of contesters
> and even more non-contesters.  If the survey were
> biased in favor of contesters, of course then the
> results would have shown wild enthusiasm for contest
> line scores.  But the intent of the survey was not to bias
> it in any direction.  It was intended to discover what
> ARRL members, as a whole, prefer to have in their
> magazines.  ARRL tries to serve the entire membership,
> not just specialized groups.
> 
> 73.  Jim, W6CF
> 
> 
> Jim Rhodes wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if the survey groups that are polled tend to be from the
> > higher density population areas. This alone would bias the survey
> > against contesters. I would be very interested in how they choose
> > the survey population. Living most of my life in the midwest I have
> > gotten used to the fact that our opinions don't count as much as
> > those from either coast . At 10:33 AM 2/13/02, you wrote:
> >
> > >Some excerpts from messages N4ZR and I exchanged last month...
> > >
> > > >At 10:00 AM 1/10/2002 -0500, N4ZR wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>It's worth remembering that a poll of a little over 1000 people
> > > >>is considered statistically representative of the entire adult
> > > >>population of the United States, within +/- 3 percentage points.
> > > >> You can imagine how small a sample would give comparable
> > > >>results for the ham population of 700,000 or so.  That makes it
> > > >>pretty likely that very few contesters are in the sample for any
> > > >>given QST reader poll.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The results of the last 3 ARRL Readex surveys have had error
> > > >rates of
> > > 3.6, 3.6 and 3.5 points.   And yes, out of 160K members, 6K
> > > contesters won't be noticed much (4%).   Of those ARRL members on
> > > this reflector (about 700?), the percentage is more like 0.4%.  So
> > > of roughly 800 surveys returned, only three might be from people
> > > on this reflector.
> > > >                                -- Tom
> > >
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> > >Director  http://www.arrl.org/
> > >Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone:
> > >860-668-5444
> > >
> > >
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Barry Kutner, W2UP              Internet: w2up at mindspring.com
Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club
        


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