[CQ-Contest] Help w/ Logging

Alan C. Zack k7acz at cox.net
Wed Dec 17 15:55:29 EST 2003


You should also check your log mult column and see how a Hawaii
station was logged.  It should be logged as KH6, not HI (the state
abbreviation).  HI is for stations from Dominican Rep.

BobK8IA at aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/17/2003 8:10:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> k7qq at netzero.net writes:
> 
> > What happens with K1CC/KH6 who was sending a SN from HI,  I didn't try to
> > get him to change his exchange just worked him and logged what he sent.  He
> > doesn't show in the Log as a mult, but it turns out that was the only  KH6
> > mult I worked and it isn't shown,  Will the checkers program to pick him up
> > as the correct Mult.
> >
> > Quack
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> I asked similar question to Dave (K8CC) during the 10M contest as the rules
> are quoted differently depending on what you're reading. Here was my question
> and his response.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------
> Dave;
> 
> I believe you mentioned you're one of the log checkers for the 10M contest. I
> noticed a rules publication conflict that you should be aware of and maybe
> pass it along to whoever you feel should know.
> 
> In the 2003 ARRL 10 Meter Contest Announcement, Nov 2003 QST:
> " Quirks......KH6 and KL7 participate as state entities rather than DX
> entities...."
> 
> And on the ARRL website, 2003 ARRL 10M Contest Rules:
> Sec 5.2.3 - "KH6 and KL7 participate and count as DXCC countries".
> 
> I have worked KH6/KH7 stations using both ways this weekend and that is going
> to cause some log checking and scoringconfusion. Personally, I have entered
> what was sent knowing darn well it may bite me in the rear. Comments? Tnx!
> 
> 
> 73, Bob K8IA
> in the shadow of the Superstition Mtns
> Arizona USA
> 
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> ------------------------------------
> Bob,
> 
> You are correct - that is what section 5.2.3 says.  However, in other
> sections:
> 
> 4.1 W/VE stations (including Hawaii and Alaska) send signal report and
> state or province (District of Columbia stations send signal report and DC).
> 
> as well as:
> 
> 5.2. Multipliers: (per mode, phone and CW).
> 
> 5.2.1. Each US state (excluding KH6 and KL7) and the District of Columbia.
> 
> With regards to scoring, it doesn't really matter whether they're counted
> as states or DXCC countries, but they can't count for both.  We count them
> as states (as per the rules).
> 
> We had this same problem last year.  The QST writeup had the "participate
> and count as DXCC countries" statement and we had KH6s/KL7s sending serial
> numbers, despite the fact that the format has been the same (and not
> changed) for probably two decades.  The ARRL fixed that, but they
> overlooked 5.2.3, which contradicts even their own rules.
> 
> IMHO, people should have gotten it right since three of four places where
> it's mentioned got it right.
> 
> I'm copying this note to N1ND to let him know he has to get 5.2.3 out of
> the rules.  Don't worry about your log - for this year I guess we'll have
> to re-use our utility from last year (I hope I didn't trash it) which
> corrects all the logs (i.e., substitutes HI/AK for a QSO nr).
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave
> 
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> 
> Looks like we'll all be ok.
> 
> 73,Bob K8IA
> someplace near Apache Junction, Arizona USA
> in the shadow of the Superstition Mtns
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