Fw: [CQ-Contest] Help w/ Logging

[Rex Maner]

Quack's
I don't have to check how the marker is logged ,  He didn't show as a mult
at all.

KH6   OR   DX

I also didn't work any other KH6  or   Hawaii station.






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz at cox.net>
To: <BobK8IA at aol.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>; <k7qq at netzero.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 23:55
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Help w/ Logging


> You should also check your log mult column and see how a Hawaii
> station was logged.  It should be logged as KH6, not HI (the state
> abbreviation).  HI is for stations from Dominican Rep.
>
> BobK8IA at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 12/17/2003 8:10:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> > k7qq at netzero.net writes:
> >
> > > What happens with K1CC/KH6 who was sending a SN from HI,  I didn't try
to
> > > get him to change his exchange just worked him and logged what he
sent.  He
> > > doesn't show in the Log as a mult, but it turns out that was the only
KH6
> > > mult I worked and it isn't shown,  Will the checkers program to pick
him up
> > > as the correct Mult.
> > >
> > > Quack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I asked similar question to Dave (K8CC) during the 10M contest as the
rules
> > are quoted differently depending on what you're reading. Here was my
question
> > and his response.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ------------------------------------
> > Dave;
> >
> > I believe you mentioned you're one of the log checkers for the 10M
contest. I
> > noticed a rules publication conflict that you should be aware of and
maybe
> > pass it along to whoever you feel should know.
> >
> > In the 2003 ARRL 10 Meter Contest Announcement, Nov 2003 QST:
> > " Quirks......KH6 and KL7 participate as state entities rather than DX
> > entities...."
> >
> > And on the ARRL website, 2003 ARRL 10M Contest Rules:
> > Sec 5.2.3 - "KH6 and KL7 participate and count as DXCC countries".
> >
> > I have worked KH6/KH7 stations using both ways this weekend and that is
going
> > to cause some log checking and scoringconfusion. Personally, I have
entered
> > what was sent knowing darn well it may bite me in the rear. Comments?
Tnx!
> >
> >
> > 73, Bob K8IA
> > in the shadow of the Superstition Mtns
> > Arizona USA
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ------------------------------------
> > Bob,
> >
> > You are correct - that is what section 5.2.3 says.  However, in other
> > sections:
> >
> > 4.1 W/VE stations (including Hawaii and Alaska) send signal report and
> > state or province (District of Columbia stations send signal report and
DC).
> >
> > as well as:
> >
> > 5.2. Multipliers: (per mode, phone and CW).
> >
> > 5.2.1. Each US state (excluding KH6 and KL7) and the District of
Columbia.
> >
> > With regards to scoring, it doesn't really matter whether they're
counted
> > as states or DXCC countries, but they can't count for both.  We count
them
> > as states (as per the rules).
> >
> > We had this same problem last year.  The QST writeup had the
"participate
> > and count as DXCC countries" statement and we had KH6s/KL7s sending
serial
> > numbers, despite the fact that the format has been the same (and not
> > changed) for probably two decades.  The ARRL fixed that, but they
> > overlooked 5.2.3, which contradicts even their own rules.
> >
> > IMHO, people should have gotten it right since three of four places
where
> > it's mentioned got it right.
> >
> > I'm copying this note to N1ND to let him know he has to get 5.2.3 out of
> > the rules.  Don't worry about your log - for this year I guess we'll
have
> > to re-use our utility from last year (I hope I didn't trash it) which
> > corrects all the logs (i.e., substitutes HI/AK for a QSO nr).
> >
> > Thanks for pointing this out.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > -----------------------
> >
> > Looks like we'll all be ok.
> >
> > 73,Bob K8IA
> > someplace near Apache Junction, Arizona USA
> > in the shadow of the Superstition Mtns
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