[CQ-Contest] Fw: On Line Logs--cheating

[Henry]

And what do you do about this scenario? 
K4XXX sends me a qsl this week for a SS contact. I check the log. Its not
there. I return the card telling him so. He knocks the QSO out of his log. 
Right or wrong? Is there a difference between this and massaging the log
with LOTW data?
Henry, W2DZO

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, W. Wright, W5XD wrote:

> > The point being made is: if you do not find your call 
> > in the other guy's log, you remove the QSO from yours, 
> > thus avoiding the penalty.
> 
> That's not quite the whole story. At least for LOTW,
> you know that a QSO is not QSLed by LOTW, but there
> can be two reasons--the other log is not in the database
> or your info is bad--and the way LOTW works, you can't
> tell the difference (because you don't have the other
> guy's password).
> 
> However, if the other guy's log IS in the the database
> and you do get a QSL (I am not talking paper--just
> a confirmation), then you can compare the QSO info
> in the QSL with what's in your log. That info is limited
> to what the LOTW saves. It doesn't have the whole exchange.
> But it does have state, zone, grid square, etc. And a
> cheater could use those to confirm some parts of the
> QSO.
> 
> It is my opinion that, while cheating looks far-fetched
> now, that the conventions and rules for its use should be set 
> based on a worst-case assumption (or best-case) that ALL 
> contest participants immediately at the end of the contest 
> upload their logs and that cheaters have a month to test 
> their logs against a nearly perfect LOTW. If you consider 
> that extreme, I think its very clear that logs should 
> not be uploaded until after the submission deadline. 
> 
> Wayne, W5XD
> 
> 
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