Fw: [CQ-Contest] Running vs SP (Was Self Spotting)

Rex Maner k7qq at netzero.net
Fri Apr 2 03:16:54 EST 2004


Not Runninjg any Pkt here but might be convinced to hook it up for

FQP if some one will just go to the trouble to make sure  and spot them.

Quack



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Smith" <kk4ta at strato.net>
To: <Cqtestk4xs at aol.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 14:29
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Running vs SP (Was Self Spotting)


> SP must be ok.  There is even an SPDX contest this weekend and an SP club.
> Must be the opposite of the CQDX contest.  Now is that the Self Spotting
DX
> contest or the Seach and Pounce DX contest or just some bad Polish joke?
> OMG, I'm seeing spots--orange spots, or are they oranges?
>
> No joke, the FQP is just over 22 days away.
>
> (We can only hope this thread doesn't last that long)
>
> Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Cqtestk4xs at aol.com>)
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Running vs SP (Was Self Spotting)
>
>
> > I'm not penalizing broadcast stations that sit on
> > one frequency making 100 Q's per hour; their
> > year-to-year scoring would not be changed.
> >
> > I'm suggesting that non-CQing stations should receive
> > 2x points for those contacts, because S&P rates are
> > one half of the run rates.
> >
> > That would bring parity in scores for those that can
> > run with those that can't, but still work just as hard.
> >
> > Barry
> >
>
............................................................................
> ..
> > .....................................................
> > As a "broadcast station who makes 100 QSOs" and hour I find your ideas
not
> > totally accurate.
> >
> > My score would be changed
> >
> > A good operator who is having a 200 plus hour is working just as hard as
> one
> > who is S/Ping, but in a different way.  Not every station who calls in
is
> 20
> > over and in the clear.  We too are hearing lots of QRM/QRN and QSB.
> However,
> > we battling all those while trying to pull S2 signals out of the crud to
> > continue the run. We are the ones who work just as hard to as the guys
who
> are
> > working QRP.  We have to copy the ESP signals that we receive.
> >
> > While I am working that run on 20 at around 100 stations an hour, I am
> also
> > trying to listen with my left ear on 15 or 10 to pick up additional
> stations,
> > timing my breaks in CQing to pick up another station.  Did you ever try
> it?  I
> > have been doing it for five years and it is still difficult.
> >
> > CQing is score limiting if the operator is not a good one.  A good
> operator
> > knows when to stop CQing and start S/Ping.  If he continues to call CQ
and
> his
> > rate drops below what the S/P rate would be, he is being penalized. Many
> times
> > the "big guns" go S/Ping.  A good S/P station can easily do 100 stations
> an
> > hour. If you are CQing on one radio, your S/P efforts are hindered, so
> that
> > hurts you in the S/P. Sometimes it is necessary for the big stations to
do
> > nothing but S/P.
> >
> > As to your thoughts about point differentials for the running stations
> versus
> > the S/P stations.  Why should running stations be penalized for having
> > operators with the skills and the hardware to run?  In the end, the
> differential
> > would be impossible to score...a scorer's nightmare.
> >
> > I suggest you check out the Sprints if you are not happy with the
> traditional
> > contests.  It would be a way to test your skills against the "broadcast
> > stations" who CQ a lot, but can't in those.  Another alternative is to
> sign up with
> > a team at a multi-multi or take a trip to the Caribbean and see how much
> work
> > it really is to maintain a productive running frequency.
> >
> > Bill K4XS
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