[CQ-Contest] Incomplete LoTW QSL Records, Worthless ???

Russell Hill rustyhill at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 5 20:04:07 EST 2004

Good point here about incomplete info, and now I will expose how little I
have been operating...

I am about to send my first attempt at uploading to LoTW, and I want to give
the complete info.  It has been so long since I looked at a Zone map that I
don't remember any of the zones.

I was operating from Katy, TX, Fort Bend County, and according to my GPS, if
I did it right, the MH is EL29cr.

Would some one be willing to remind me what the CQ and ITU zones are?

Just getting back into it, and thanks,
Rusty, NA5TR

----- Original Message -----
From: "R Johnson" <k1vu at tmlp.com>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Incomplete LoTW QSL Records, Worthless ???

> Hi:
> I had originally posted this message on the LoTW reflector. Several hams
> suggested that I might that I might also want to post this message on some
> other mailing lists so that more would be aware of the problem.
> Basic Problem:
> People are not completely filling in the "STATION" info in LoTW's TQSL
> thus causing incomplete QSL records.
> After noting several of my LoTW QSL confirmations were lacking complete
> "Station" info !!! I decided to download my latest "LoTW Report" and do
> analysis of the situation.
> I must admit that I was a bit surprised at how bad this problem was.
> Of my 356 LoTW QSL's, 30% of them(108) had incomplete "Station Data"
making many
> of the QSL's useless for Awards other than DXCC !!!
> Here is a breakdown of my 108 bad QSL's:
> No Grid = 22
> No County = 2
> No County & Grid = 1
> No ITU Zone = 11
> No CQ Zone = 3
> No ITU & CQ Zones = 56
> No Grid & BOTH Zones = 5
> No Grid & ITU Zone = 8
> Note: I have no means (yet) of checking for missing IOTA data.
> So what is the bottom line ???
> I don't know, but as far as I can see these type of statistics tend to
make LoTW
> useless as far as being able to use LoTW QSL's for credit on awards other
than the
> ARRL DXCC, WAS and WAC Awards !!!
> The ARRL VUCC Award is questionable due to lack of grid info AND the fact
the LoTW
> has very little acceptance by the VHF/UHF/SHF community, but that another
story !!!
> Use of LoTW for Non-ARRL Awards is also up for grabs.  CQ Magazines Awards
and County
> Hunters will need some of the missing data.  I don't know about US
Islands, Canadian
> Islands and IOTA awards.  Awards like 10-10, SMIRK and FISTS are not even
supported by
> providing a place to enter their #'s in the "Station" info.
> I think it is up to LoTW to make sure that the "Submitted Logs" contain
all of the
> "Station" information.
> This could be accomplished in a number of ways:
> 1-LoTW could review (electronically) all of the currently received records
and ask
>    submitter to update his "Station" info (supply ALL info) and resign and
>    their logs.
> 2-Anyone finding incomplete info on a LoTW QSL could submit a list of the
>    callsigns to LoTW and LoTW could ask them resign and resubmit their
logs or have
>    them rejected.
> 3-LoTW could refuse to accept any NEW submissions lacking complete
"Station" data.
>    This might cause some of the current "offending" users to take notice
and resign
>    and resubmit their logs on their own.
> 4-LoTW could make the importance supplying ALL of the "Station" data
better know in
>    the setup instructions. I consider it a poorly documented point.
> I support LoTW, but I'm starting to see it bogging down in a quagmire.
> So far there are less than 6000 Hams worldwide using LoTW at this time, so
I see that
> this is the ideal time to make changes.
> 73
> Bob, K1VU
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