[CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack

Tue Jul 6 22:12:00 EDT 2004

Guys...

You appear to have WAY too much time on your hands! If you're so bored that
you have the time to continue to propagate this blather come on down to my
QTH and we'll put you to work on finishing assembly of the C4, assembling
the EF 706, EF1302, pounding more ground rods in around the tower, helping
install the surge protection bulkhead, mowing the back 10 acres,
retensioning the guys and digging the post holes for the low band beveredge
antenna. If that doesn't tire you out there's also weedeating around the guy
anchors, putting connectors on the rotor cable, mounting the rotor plate,
mast and thrust bearing, priming and painting the rest of the tower
sections.

If all this wasted energy were brought to bear on these projects...they'd be
done in about 2 days!

I'm embarrased that I stopped long enough to reply to this silly thread.
Tony, thanks for the reality check! Damn, I just wasted 30 seconds!

Mark

K9GX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Rogozinski" <tonyrogo at telegraphy.com>
To: "Ron Notarius" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack

> Is this thread ridiculous or what?
>
> Tony N7BG/4
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Notarius" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
>
>
> > I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
> >
> > Let me make this perfectly clear... I have NO problem with people
renting
> > out contest shacks.  Heck, if you have the money to build a super shack,
be
> > it domestic or rare DX or anywhere in between, and you're not going to
be
> > using it on particular contest (or other) weekend, why not?
> >
> > It was just the way this one was offered that was odd... limiting the
number
> > of ops to rent, severely limiting the directions to the location and not
> > releasing them to almost the last minute, requesting a minimal payment
to
> > cover electricity and an additional amount in order to use the club
call,
> > virtually guaranteeing a high score, and most importantly, insisting
that
> > ANYONE who showed up HAD to operate (think about it... this means if the
> > site owners and their friends show up, the guys who paid to use the site
> > have to step aside?  What's the point in renting it then?)
> >
> > I now have some more information available.  The site in question is
owned
> > by a group of amateurs known as the "South Mountain Group" or "South
> > Mountain Project."  The site is owned by WA1HHN, was formerly owned by
> > K3MQH, and has often run under the call K3EAR in VHF contests.  Most or
all
> > of the owners/operators are members of the Murgas ARC in
> > Wilkes-Barre/Scranton PA, and they have run under the K3YTL club call in
two
> > recent PA QSO Parties.
> >
> > My understanding from the Murgas club is that the SMG requested more
funds
> > this year to operate K3YTL from their site than the club was willing to
> > allocate.  Thus the offer to at least three PA clubs that I know of
> > (Wireless Association of South Hills, North Coast Contesters, and Carbon
> > ARC) and probably more to rent the site for the Pa QSO Party.  And based
on
> > the phrasing of the entire email, which I summarized in the earlier
email,
> > it sounds like the SMG ops want to help the renters out at the expensive
of
> > Murgas (and personally, I'd just as soon stay out of intra-club
squabbles,
> > if you know what I mean...)  But as I understand the PaQP rules, if the
SMG
> > ops do operate a significant portion of the other club's operations, and
are
> > not themselves members of that club... well, it muddies the water.  In
> > short, the "guarantee" of 250K+ points to help out the club score may be
> > useless as it may not count.  Fortunately, that's an issue for the Pa
QSO
> > Party folks to unravel, not me!
> >
> > Enough... no point in beating this further into the ground.  Suffice to
say,
> > a strange situation all the way around, and leave it at that.
> >
> > 73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:38:18 -0000
> > > From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd at charter.net>
> > > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > > To: "Tom Osborne" <w7why at charter.net>, "CQ Contest"
> > > <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >
> > > Gee, I think the WP2Z station (and others) do the rent-a-station thing
> > now.
> > > Why would that not be legal?
> > >
> > > My station available.  Make an offer!
> > >
> > > K5ZD
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tom Osborne
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 00:36 AM
> > > > To: CQ Contest
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Ron Notarius" <
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rent a QTH is one thing.  But rent a complete operating station
> > > > including operators?  With all due respect... if they're shack is so
> > > > good, why aren't they operating it themselves as themselves?  Am I
> > > > missing something here?
> > > > ___________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Well, is it legal??  If so, there's a chance to make some money on
ham
> > > > radio.  Set up some stations all around the country and rent them
out
> > > > for contests.  Charge $n.n per Q or something.  Get some big guns in
> > > > there and make a few bucks off your ham ticket.
> > > >
> > > > Even better, just hire a bunch of guys to operate for you.  Just
stay
> > > > home and let some dudes operate the contest at a rented station with
> > > > rented hams using your call.  Connect to the station with ICQ and
chat
> > > > with them while they are operating for you.
> > > >
> > > > Does it seem like there is something missing here?
> > > > Tom W7wHY
> > > >
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