[CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight

[Kelly Taylor]

I think the idea of competing in daylight is interesting, but I suspect it
would be of limited popular appeal. And I don't know if anyone's thought
about how we pay for this.

The bread and butter of any contest is not the hard-core contester who gets
on for every event and would be all over this like leaves on a lawn. If we
only had hard-core contesters to work, WW could be over in a few hours. The
casual guys we need won't pay for real-time scoring and would likely not
bother entering a contest where it's required.

So I don't think it would be wise to institute a "must compete in daylight"
rule in the existing major contests. Many folk just wouldn't bother. But
making it an option for those who wish it may work. I hesitate to think of
the user fee it would require given the bandwidth and server-time involved,
however.

I seriously doubt any of the major sponsors have the cash. So all that's
left would be either user-pay or manufacturer sponsorship. Coming up, the
ICOM World-Wide DX Contest, followed by the Yaesu Sweepstakes.

Perhaps the first step, after publishing logs, is to arrange for a test
contest to gauge appeal.

As neat as the idea may be, if not enough people want it, it ain't gonna
happen.

73, kelly
ve4xt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt at arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight


> It is important to check the messages that the log robots send back to
you.
> They mean that your log may be malformed in such a way that the log
checking
> process may not be able to properly score your entry.  Messages like a
> missing exchange or invalid data in a column may indeed be an error on
your
> part(not copied exchange), or typos (didn't hit space and typed exchange
in
> call field), or they could be software problems(logger didn't put space
> between long call and exchange column).  So don't just ignore them, check
> them out and make sure you know they are not simple typos or a bug in the
> logging software.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> > bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Dayshaw
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 00:31
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight
> >
> >
> > Regarding the statement below "...but it would not stop the post contest
> > 'massaging' of log data."
> >
> > On that topic I was rather shocked/surprised today when I submitted this
> > year's small-time effort in the California QSO Party and was offered the
> > chance, on the sponsors log submittal Web site, to (at least in my
view),
> > "massage my log" after the contest ended. When I submitted the log their
> > new
> > software made note of the fact that I had a missing county on one
exchange
> > and offered me the opportunity of correcting and/or modifying that
entry.
> > I
> > passed since the contest was over but what exactly does the NCCC think
> > they
> > are doing in offering the chance post-contest to correct mistakes? I
> > suppose
> > I could have looked up the questionable entry and gained a point or two
> > (assuming the station wasn't running a portable operation) but to have
the
> > sponsor actually point out an obvious logging error and allow and/or
> > encourage post contest correction seems a bit much.
> >
> > In all other respects (as always) the NCCC did a great job in promoting
> > and
> > supporting their annual event and the California stations turned out in
> > numbers and did a great job as well. However, I'm not all that sure that
> > allowing/encouraging post-contest log changes (in the body of the log)
> > during the submission process, is such a great idea.
> >
> > 73,
> > Patrick
> > W7TMT
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Guy Molinari
> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:39 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight
> >
> > Snip...
> >
> > Opening up the UBN's/logs would be a step in the right direction IMHO,
but
> > it would not stop the post contest 'massaging' of log data.
> >
> > Snip...
> >
> > 73's
> > Guy, N7ZG
> >
> >
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