[CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight

Steve London n2ic at arrl.net
Wed Oct 12 00:30:37 EDT 2005


Hey Mal,

The N7MAL packet spots are public knowledge:

KT8X      28030.0 N7MAL                                     2231 06 Nov 2004
WK6I      21010.8 N7MAL                                     2324 06 Nov 2004
W6ZZZ      3562.6 N7MAL       az                            0350 07 Nov 2004
W6ZZZ      3563.1 N7MAL                                     0430 07 Nov 2004
W9ILY     28040.3 N7MAL                                     1648 07 Nov 2004

How about making your 2004 SS CW log public so that we could each do our 
own analysis and draw our own conclusions about packet cheating ?

73,
Steve, N2IC


N7MAL wrote:
> I received 17, yes 17, private emails asking me to name names. Well
> for obvious reasons I am not going to do that but I wanted to respond
> publicly to at least this one, because I found it interestingly
> offensive. As you can see it comes from someone who has gained a
> certain amount of stature in the contesting community. John
> said:"""". Over the last few years I've complained often and loudly
> about being spotted during domestic contests, especially SS. I've
> watched my run-rate go from something very comfortable to having a
> big pile-up. Without exception my run-rate jumped up because I was
> spotted on packet. AND without exception checking the results,
> against my log during those rapid rate increases, shows none, not
> one, of the stations worked during those periods reported themselves
> as a muli-op. They ALL were in the single op category. If it happened
> once, or maybe even twice, it might be coincidence but over several
> contests it is no longer coincidence but cheating. If you need
> further 'proof' look at CQP. There were hundreds and hundreds of
> spots on the cluster. Other than the big multi efforts in CA there
> will be less than a dozen claim they were multi. It's the same during
> other domestic contests like SS and NAQP except on a larger scale.
> The ratio of spots/spotters to logs submitted as multi would be
> laughable if it weren't for the fact that it clearly shows there is a
> problem of integrity during contests. John might I suggest rather
> than taking cheap pot-shots at the messenger why not help find a
> solution to this problem. Is there not a way to make the multi
> category more attractive? There must be some incentive, bigger or
> more trophies, larger or more bold fonts in results, something to
> move the folks who are using packet, during contests, into the multi
> category. Hopefully a solution can be found that will satisfy
> everyone. Best 73's
> 
> MAL         N7MAL BULLHEAD CITY, AZ 
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm http://geocities.com/n7mal/ 
> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
> tomorrow in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: K1AR at aol.com
>  To: N7MAL at CITLINK.NET Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:59 Subject:
> Re: [CQ-Contest] Competing in the Daylight
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/9/2005 7:19:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> N7MAL at CITLINK.NET writes: It is easy to see that Packet-Cluster
> cheating is rampant and is a real threat to honest contesting.
> 
> Mal--
> 
> With all due respect, you're out of your league with this comment.
> Can you identify a single entrant that fits your cheating assertion
> above? I doubt it, but I'd like to see your list.
> 
> Be careful with these claims that are not fact based. The reality is
> that, at least for the CQ WW and ARRL DX contests, packet cheaters
> are aggressively sought out, discovered and dealt with appropriately.
> 
> 
> Please reply.
> 
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