[CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule

Wed Sep 14 22:02:23 EDT 2005

I wonder why the M/2 category is not similar, that being you can have three
transmitters operating similar to M/1?

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:21 AM
To: Ted Bryant; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule

There's only a disconnect if you choose to make this harder than it needs to
be.

Under the two transmitter rule, as stated here, there is no restriction on
where those two transmitters may be or whom they may work (though there may
be a restriction not quoted here restricting them from being on the same
band simultaneously).

Under the M/S rules, the mult station is restricted by a 10-minute rule and
may only work new mults. This is not new, but it was introduced after the
M/S category was created. It was specifically introduced as a change to the
M/S category in certain contests: it did not come about by default. I seem
to recall early M/S rules that did not allow for this exception. I believe
some of my and VE4VV's efforts in the 1980s as VE4ALO were bound by M/S
rules that did not include this restriction.

73, kelly
ve4xt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Bryant" <w4nz at comcast.net>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule

> The CQ Contest Committee really needs to clarify this.
>
> Applying Randy K5ZD's (and others)interpretation of the rules for
Multi-Single
> seems to create a conflict with the rules for Multi-Two. From CQ's CQWW
rules:
>
> "III. Type of Competition
>    c. Multi-Operator
>    1. Single Transmitter (MS):
>       Only one transmitter and one band permitted during any 10-minute
period..
>       .
>       .
>       Exception: One-and only one-other band may be used during any
10-minute
>       period if-and only if-the station worked is a new multiplier.
>
>    2. Two Transmitter (M2):
>       A maximum of two transmitted signals at any time on different
bands."
>
>
> -Ted W4NZ
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> >[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Fred Dennin
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:24 PM
> >To: Mike McCarthy, W1NR; cq-contest at contesting.com
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule
> >
> >
> >I have confirmed that Randy's interpretation is correct and I thank him
for
> >bringing this to our attention.  Thanks to the others that have
contributed
> >to this subject.  Although the initial question was from someone else, I
too
> >have learned from this exchange.
> >
> >Fred, WW4LL
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists at w1nr.net>
> >To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:25 AM
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule
> >
> >
> >> Randy's interpretation is the way I have been operating for 20+
years...
> >>
> >> Mike, W1NR
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd at charter.net>
> >> To: "'Fred Dennin'" <fdennin at numail.org>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>;
> >> "'Pete Smith'" <n4zr at contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule
> >>
> >>
> >> > However, the rules do not specifically limit you to only one signal
on
> >the
> >> > air.
> >> >
> >> > To quote:
> >> >
> >> > "1. Single Transmitter (MS): Only one transmitter and one band
permitted
> >> > during
> >> > any 10-minute period, defined as starting with the first logged QSO
on a
> >> > band.
> >> > Exception: One-and only one-other band may be used during any
10-minute
> >> > period
> >> > if-and only if-the station worked is a new multiplier. Logs found in
> >> > violation of the 10-minute rule will automatically be reclassified as
> >> > multi-multi."
> >> >
> >> > Read carefully, it says you have one transmitter operating under the
> >> > 10-minute rule for band changes.  Then you can have another band
> >> > (transmitter) that can work multipliers that has its own 10-minute
rule.
> >> > Nothing about only one transmitted signal between the two.
> >> >
> >> > While it could be worded much clearer, all of the CQ multi-single
> >> > operations
> >> > I have participated in have had two transmitters (sometimes
transmitting
> >> > at
> >> > the same time).
> >> >
> >> > Randy, K5ZD
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> >> >> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Fred Dennin
> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:52 PM
> >> >> To: cq-contest at contesting.com; Pete Smith
> >> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule
> >> >>
> >> >> My understanding is that only one signal is permitted on the
> >> >> air simultaneously.  That is the only way that we have run
> >> >> all Multi Single contests.
> >> >>
> >> >> 73'........Fred WW4LL
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr at contesting.com>
> >> >> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:23 AM
> >> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Multi-Single Rule
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not clear on whether Multi-Singles in CQWW are
> >> >> permitted to have two
> >> >> signals on the air simultaneously so long as they otherwise
> >> >> comply with the
> >> >> 10-minute/mult rule.  This has lockout implications, but I'm
> >> >> sure it's been
> >> >> resolved long since -- what's the story?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >> >> > The World HF Contest Station Database
> >> >> > was updated on 18 August 2005
> >> >> > 2988 contest stations at
> >> >> > www.pvrc.org/WCSD/WCSDsearch.htm
> >> >> >
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