[CQ-Contest] Unique perspectives

[Rex Maner]

Quack Says

I've begged and pleaded , especally on Sunday in SS for anyone anywhere for 
a contact,  Its really easy guys just give me your call and I talk you 
through the exchange.  I don't tell them to go works somone else but I do 
say  thanks for NR 1 and if you works somone else they would be NR 2.   73 
CQ SS

When I get a NR 1 I say to myself ,  hope he doesn't work W7WA  .

Although I have gotten on in some contest and given Dan a Q.

Rex   aka   Quack



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt at arrl.net>
To: "'CQ Contest'" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unique perspectives


> Who has said anything about changing rules for contests to remove
> uniques????
>
> This discussion started over the one-time special rescoring done for wrtc
> participants because of suspected irregularities in some logs.  I have 
> seen
> nothing from any other contest sponsor that indicates that this practice 
> may
> spread to other contests (besides the few odd ones that have been doing 
> this
> all along).
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark Bailey
>> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 21:05
>> To: CQ Contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unique perspectives
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:50:01AM -0700, Jack Brindle wrote:
>> >  [...]
>> > You seem to be confusing a log checking and scoring process with what
>> > will actually happen on the air.  Let's say for argument's sake that
>> > points from unique QSOs were removed from a log's score in the log
>> > checking process, and all contestants know that this will happen.
>> > Will this in any way change how they operate?  Will you not log a QSO
>> > or tell someone to go away?  Since you cannot predict which QSOs
>> > will or will not be uniques, it would have no effect whatsoever on
>> > how people operate.  You will still want to work that local guy who
>> > gets on and makes one QSO with you because you have no idea whether or
>> > not they will also make other QSOs before the contest is over.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, this is likely to change the way I operate in rare cases.  I
>> have
>> been known to solicit Sweepstakes contacts from net control stations, for
>> instance, when they pop up on my run frequency and tell me the net is
>> starting soon.  I also take the time on Sunday to walk stations through
>> the Sweepstakes exchange, even on CW, when I have no idea whether they
>> will make another contact.  Often (usually?), I suspect they won't.
>>
>> I am concerned that such a rule change will make contesters less likely
>> to be friendly to the very casual stations. I would certainly not choose
>> to not log it, unless there was a penalty, but I may also choose not to
>> try to get a QSO (especially in Sweepstakes) and may pass up the
>> opportunity to try to recruit a new contest operator.
>>
>> I have also engaged in rather long rag chews with slow stations sometimes
>> to get a multiplier in DX contests (from a multi-multi station where it
>> was worth the time to do so).  I actually HOPE these stations will be
>> uniques.
>>
>> These are certainly "fringe" situations, but they do reflect things I do
>> and have done during contests.
>>
>> This discussion is making me less certain that not giving credit for
>> uniques is a BAD idea, especially if some competitive logs have 10 
>> percent
>> uniques, but I think there may be unintended consequences. It is
>> certainly a valuable and interesting discussion.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark, KD4D
>>
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