[CQ-Contest] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!

[Robert Naumann]

Rick,

I don't think that changing to M is what you need to do.

ARRL General Rule # 3.14 says:

	3.14. In contests where spotting nets are permissible, spotting your
own station or requesting another station to spot you is not 	permitted.

I think your plea for an NL multiplier is essentially spotting yourself and
clearly violates this rule. While you didn't only spot your own station, you
also announced that you were looking for a particular multiplier.

So, since both Single Op Unlimited and Multi-ops are both precluded from
doing this, you should change your entry to a Checklog rather than changing
from U to M.

CQ uses the term "passive" use of packet (or internet spotting networks).
Passive use implies that you connect to the cluster, you receive spot
information from others, and you post spot information to help others. 

I think it would be good if the ARRL were to follow CQ in using the same
passive/active definition. I am certain that the intent is the same, but the
wording is just different.

There also is no fuzzy line between U and M categories. In "U", only one
person does all the work. In "M" more than one person timeshares the work
with the others at that same station. The people out there on the packet
(Internet spotting) network are not part of either entries' operation.

73,

Bob W5OV


----Original Message-----
From: K6VVA [mailto:dx35 at hilding.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:25 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Cc: nccc at contesting.com; writelog at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!

SS Packet DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!

With the SS Phone weekend rapidly approaching, I sincerely hope this helps 
someone else to NOT make the same mistake (out of ignorance and 
misunderstanding) that I did in the 2006 SS CW event.

Special TNX to wise sage Mr. Wardster, N0AX, for his advice as to a 
solution in this matter vs. simply requesting withdrawal of my humble, 
non-competitive log submission.

73 & Good Luck in the Contest, Om's...

Rick, K6VVA

P.S. I am strongly considering the NON-use of Packet during my limited QRV 
in the SS Phone event, so any pre-fill data with a "U" category *may* be 
incorrect ;-(

RE:
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>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:10:20 -0800
>To: kc1j at arrl.org
>From: K6VVA <dx35 at hilding.com>
>Subject: RE: K6VVA ARRL 2006 SS CW Log Submission
>
>Hello, Tom:
>
>In an abundance of caution, and due to my ignorance and misinterpretation 
>of packet rules for the "U" category, based upon several Reflector 
>discussions, it appears I need to change my K6VVA 2006 SS CW Log 
>Submission from the category of "U" to "M".
>
>In my operational excitement of only needing the "NL" section for a Clean 
>Sweep before having to QRT Sunday Morning, I recall making a post (like 
>others I'd seen) which I didn't even remotely consider to be 
>"solicitation" at the time.
>
>Will this email suffice, or do I need to totally resubmit a log with the 
>above correction in it?
>
>IMHO, there is a fuzzy thin line between "U" and "M", and from one vantage 
>point, I now believe there is really no difference.  In fact, I think "U" 
>should be changed to "MU" (Multi-Unlimited), because the use of packet is 
>really like having the benefit of thousands and thousands of "Assistant" 
>operators.
>
>In any case, I believe a more detailed "WARNING" and description of what 
>constitutes "Solicitation" needs to be incorporated into a re-write of the 
>SS rule.
>
>Please advise if my requested change can be made at the ARRL, or if I need 
>to resubmit.
>
>Tnx & 73...
>
>Rick, K6VVA


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