[CQ-Contest] Contesters and LOTW

Wed Aug 8 18:10:08 EDT 2007

Honestly, I think that you are right.  Some more detailed instructions would
be helpful. When I ran into a problem, I called and got help immediately.
These help files that the computer types love to refer to are not helpful to
an old guy like me. I like to have someone that I can ask. (Hopefully that
doesn't have too much of an accent...although those Yankees do talk funny
:-))

Bill, W5VX

>-----Original Message-----
>From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul Cassel
>Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:08 AM
>To: lotw-help at arrl.org
>Cc: 'CQ-Contest'
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesters and LOTW
>
>This email is addressed to the LoTW desk and copied to CQ Contest ref
>
>
>
>As a very recent first time user of LoTW, I find there is a major lack of
>help files and examples for the 1st time user.
>
>After uploading my log to LoTW, and looking at my awards page, I could see
>the country counts however there was nothing to help understand the table
>as
>to what the SELECTED and APPLIED columns were for. And while the Applying
>for Credits help page is extensive... it assumes that the first time user
>understands what the various DXCC credit could be.  For instance, when I
>first tried to use the application it suggested clicking the Select All box
>to highlight all of the Qs listed below.  There was no indication why these
>Qs were selected or why there were so many..... well in excess of total
>DXCC
>entities.  I now realize these referenced per band and mode but this is not
>explained.
>
>Now all of you guys who have been there and used the LoTW probably are
>saying - where is this guy from.... but think back to when you first set up
>your account and I'm sure you will recall how user unfriendly it was.
>
>After spending a lot of time playing and experimenting, I now have a
>reasonable handle on the system and agree it works well however the league
>really needs to show small screen captures with some explanation tags.
>
>Possibly a selection at the start of the LoTW DXCC application letting the
>user select the template to use such as   'Seasoned User' or 'New User'
>with
>the new user being more detailed with examples.   And on the Awards page
>have a link to show what the various columns of the table reference.
>
>As every one is stating here, the LoTW is a wonderful tool - it just needs
>to provide some first time help for the new users.
>
>Paul, VE3SY, a LoTW Newbie
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Parry
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:01 AM
>> To: 'Andrei Stchislenok'
>> Cc: 'CQ-Contest'
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesters and LOTW
>>
>> Andrei,
>>
>> I think a lot of the initial resistance to LOTW has started to fall away.
>> It
>> is simply too good a deal not to participate in. The logging programs
>that
>> most of us use make it very easy to upload any segment of a log to LOTW
>>
>> I think that the recent DXpeditions that have waited a year and then
>> uploaded are about right. Most of the paper card chasers will have
>already
>> sent in their card/money.
>>
>> I have decided that due to the expense I am going to depend on LOTW for
>> WARC
>> band DXCC updates. I believe the CQ will begin using LOTW one of these
>> days.
>> So that will improve the it's usefulness.
>>
>> Incidentally I think a lot of contesters also upload those ADI files to
>> e-qsl as well. Although those only count for the inhouse e-qsl awards,
>> lots
>> of guys participate. Those fellows might also be asking for cards if they
>> weren't uploaded. I always upload to that site as well.
>>
>> Bill, W5VX
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> >bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Andrei Stchislenok
>> >Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:11 PM
>> >To: Tom Osborne
>> >Cc: CQ-Contest
>> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesters and LOTW
>> >
>> >Logisticaly, I see this way:
>> >Every DXpedition will receive donations with paper QSL's, say first six
>> >months after Dxpedition, maximum to one year. Then, they should upload
>> >their
>> >Logs ionto LoTW.
>> >The good example is 3Y0X. These fellows received and answered all QSL' s
>> I
>> >guess. Now they sent their Logs to LoTW. This is the way to go.
>> >Brabo, 3Y0X! Bravo, 1A0KM and HV0A!! (Just to mention a few) I
>> personally,
>> >appreciate this very much. Many stations from DX-countries now upoading
>> >their Logs to LoTW on regulary basis.
>> >
>> >LoTW is a good thing.
>> >
>> >73's Andrei EW1AR-NP3D (Used to be a big skeptic of LoTW:)
>> >(uploaded all previous DXpeditions and local QSO's to LoTW - HQ4R,
>> >V44/EW1AR, HC1/EW1AR, EW1AR etc etc. total 60000 QSO's; almost 19000
>> QSL's
>> >received)
>> >
>> >
>> >2007/8/7, Tom Osborne <w7why at verizon.net>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All
>> >>
>> >> Yes, they do QSL very well.
>> >>
>> >> One thing I have wondered.  I see that BS7H has already uploaded their
>> >> logs.
>> >> One thing that always got a good input of donations for the
>> DX'peditions
>> >> is
>> >> the paper card.  I just wonder how it is going to affect donations to
>> the
>> >> DX'peditions if the contribution is not required for the card (not
>that
>> >it
>> >> was ever 'required' for the card, except for a few).
>> >>
>> >> Even though I havae it confirmed by LOTW, I will still send in the
>> >> donation.
>> >> 73
>> >> Tom W7WHY
>> >>
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>> >
>> >--
>> >73's Andrei
>> >EW1AR-NP3D
>> >WAS RTTY #455 (all via LoTW)
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