[CQ-Contest] SS Reminders

[Mike Fatchett W0MU]

I hear many stations towards the end of the contest cqing for specific
sections.  The hope is someone maybe not in the contest will hear your plea
and call in.

Calling CQ VY1 is quite different from stating...Boy I sure need the VY1 for
a sweep does anyone know where I can find one?


On 11/2/07 6:50 PM, "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x at kr6x.com> wrote:

> There are a lot of different answers to this question -- a number of
> different moral and immoral viewpoints have been expressed already.
> 
> I'd say you have some choices:
> 
> 1) If your intent in calling "CQ VY1" is to enlist the aid of fellow
> operators to assist you in locating a VY1 station, then I'd say that the
> only possible moral view is that you've already placed yourself into the
> assisted class, from a strictly moral point of view.  Now, I'm not saying
> this to make moral judgements on people.  Really, all I want to do is to
> develop a sense of clear thought on the question.
> 
> 2) OK, let's say just for the sake of arguement that you're still following
> my line of thought on this.  The next issue is: would it be correct to
> assume you've made it to step 2 (this sentence) without violating your
> personal sense of morality?  If so, then you can readily assume that calling
> "CQ VY1" and hearing the answer "VY1JA is at 14.005" doesn't break the moral
> code that we're speaking about.  You'd actually have to take another action
> before you violated the single operator category rules.
> 
> 3) Then let's imagine that you just happened to quickly tune to 14.005 and
> called "CQ VY1" again.  Or, to be more specific, sent "VY1JA de K0HB" on
> 14.005.  Would you think that you'd just changed operator categories,
> inadvertantly?  Honestly, from your perspective, would that do it for you?
> 
> 4) What if it didn't work?  What if you went to the end of the contest
> period without working VY1 after the above occurred.  Would you feel moral
> in submitting a log in the single operator class now?  You didn't improve
> your score by the act.  How much do you need to improve your score before
> you feel morally committed to the assisted class.
> 
> 5) Some of this reminds me of the 1970's and the KV4 multiplier.  Everyone
> in the SS knew that a certain KV4 haunted 14,080 CW all day Sunday of the SS
> every single year since time immemorial.  He worked all comers.  If you
> found the frequency clear, you could call him blind and he would hear you.
> You could call him blind with one watt to a dipole and he would answer you.
> And, at the contest club meetings everyone discussed this fact.  And, if you
> were to go to 3815 (in those days the 3830 activity was on 3815) at 0255Z
> and ask where you could find KV4 someone who had already run out of
> operating time would volunteer "Try 14,080, and be quick about it".  In
> those days there was no such thing as the assisted class, so you had just
> entered the multioperator class.
> 
> Well, I don't think anybody ever actually enforced that.  But, frankly, none
> of this impresses me as being particularly interesting.  The number of
> morality violations that are occurring frequently and have a greater impact
> on scores is astounding.  How about the real-time web cam advertizers?  How
> about the guys who play back the contest audio from their receivers in real
> time, luring numerous operators to call in to see how they sound sending an
> exchange at the other end?  How about the habitual self-spotters?  How about
> multi-multi stations who ..., aw, never mind.  No one is listening.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Ken Adams K5KA" <k5ka at earthlink.net>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Reminders
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> Operating Ethics:
>>> If you ask someone where a rare section is transmitting (maybe VY1JA?)
>>> then you are requesting assistance and are no longer in the single
>>> operator category.
>>> 
>>> 73, Ken K5KA
>>> Sweepstakes Contest Manager
>>> 
>> 
>> What if I'm calling "CQ VY1" and someone answers "VY1JA is at 14.005", am
>> I
>> now "assisted"?
>> 
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>> 
>> 
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