[CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS

[Mike Fatchett W0MU]

Paul

You just don't get it.

If you didn't copy his call when you made the contact it is called a bust!
You don't get to check out the spot logs and try to figure out who the heck
you worked after the fact.  That is indeed cheating.

Actually you do not need to worry about the country.dat file as the sponsor
uses what they believe to be the correct file whether you like it or not.

Don't log busted contacts.  Pretty simple.

You do what needs to be done?  What is left to be done.

The log is what you did.  It contains every piece of information that the
sponsor needs to come up with the score after they have removed dupes,
busted calls, busted contacts etc.

They are not assisting you period.

Obviously there is much more to this story or much less.

Show us some hard facts or move on.

Enough with the after contest data massaging and correcting!


On 11/7/07 1:23 PM, "N4XM Paul D. Schrader" <n4xm at iglou.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> You need time to fix items found to be wrong as you work through the
> contest-such as defective country.dat files.
> And also to correct obvious typographical errors, etc. (I don't do enough
> of this.)
> 
> And what do you do about a call you couldn't quite copy, but did work (poor
> keying or voice)?
> I make a note as I work contacts like this finally deciding before scoring
> the log.
> What do you do?
> 
> I score the contest after it is over.  I don't creatively change it.  I do
> what needs to be done.
> 
> I don't allow the sponsor's Cabrillo logging system to "ASSIST" me in
> scoring it.
> To me that is worse than me doing it after the contest; nobody is ASSISTING
> me.
> If I did that, I would be in the ASSISTED class.
> 
> 73
> 
> Paul  N4XM
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:45 AM 11/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>> The ck should be a two digit number that is chosen prior to the contest.  I
>> would add that the ck should be changed from contest to contest and year to
>> year to discourage any after contest massaging of data or people using data
>> from previous years contests.
>> 
>> The year licensed has no bearing in the contest other than being a piece of
>> information to be passed.  Why would the Operator on the other end care if I
>> sent 01 or 99?  Copy what is sent.
>> 
>> I would also love to get to a place where the logs were locked after the
>> contest so you were unable to do anything with it.  The contest is over.
>> What is in the log is what you got.  If you have corrections you should be
>> fixing them during the contest not after as this could be considered
>> operating time, yes?
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/7/07 9:29 AM, "Jim Reisert AD1C" <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, I was half-asleep when I wrote this.
>>> 
>>> My intent is to tie the CK to the callsign used in the contest, not to
>>> the operator(s) who may be using that callsign.  Maybe this wording is
>>> closer to my intent:
>>> 
>>> CK represents the last two digits of the year that the station whose
>>> callsign is being used in the contest was first licensed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/7/2007 8:06 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>>>> I would like to propose a modification to the ARRL Sweepstakes rules,
>>>> specifically:
>>>> 
>>>> 4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
>>>> 
>>>> Can this be changed to "(the last two digits of the year the callsign
>>>> used in the contest was first issued to the station)?"
>>>> 
>>>> This would eliminate the confusion of what CK to send by multi-ops and
>>>> school stations.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 - Jim AD1C
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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