[CQ-Contest] I've heard it all now!

Stan Stockton k5go at cox.net
Tue Dec 9 18:47:52 EST 2008


Ron,

If someone in the midwest will put their SDR with Skimmer on 3650, covering plus/minus about 48 Khz from that frequency during the CQ 160M Contest, everyone will be able to see the results - a nice list of who have a second harmonic that can be heard, when it was heard, and how loud it was relative to the noise on the receiver end.

Although my interests are clear, consider the following.  Let's say there was an amateur band that went from 900 - 925 Khz and there were those who operated that band who could be heard with pretty strong signals on 1800 - 1850.  Those who are topband enthusiasts would be REALLY, REALLY upset.  Not a lot of difference except I doubt these guys have any problems copying each other through the second harmonics that happen to land on top of them.  

I would be more likely to buy into a notion of a problem being on the receive end or out of the control of the transmitting guy if they were not exactly double the fundamental frequency and and heard by many people.  It is not just a couple of guys who have heard some pretty strong signals propagated for over a thousand miles.  It is many.

Stan, K5GO

  
---- Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net> wrote: 
> Let's apply a little use of Occam's Razor to this.
> 
> If all of the stations listed on the 3655 group's web site had 2nd harmonic
> problems while on 160, wouldn't there be a little bit more heard about it?
> OO notices?  Comments from other operators?  Gripes from users of other
> frequencies?
> 
> Therefore:  If all these guys had malfunctioning stations, surely they would
> have heard something about it by now.  AFAIK, they haven't.
> 
> OTOH, if only one or two stations are claiming that they heard all of these
> alleged 2nd harmonics, and no one else has... that's a clear indication
> (granted, not proof) that the problem is on their end, not the transmitter's
> end.
> 
> The defense rests.  And after fighting with spyware on W9UK's computer half
> the night, believe me, I need the rest!
> 
> 73
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of KI9A at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: n2ic at arrl.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] I've heard it all now!
> 
> 
> 
> No, I am laughing.  Who's site is this? It obviously is an  anti-contester,
> with a very small mind, judging by the little man pissing.
> 
> I know at LEAST two of the call on the "wall of shame". They are locals.
> They both run small stations. I REFUSE to believe any of this, until I hear
> it
> myself. I have been a ham, wait, a VERY active ham, for over 30 years, and
> have
>  never, to my knowledge, heard a 2nd harmonic of a 160 station, on 80
> meters.
> As  a matter of fact, I will make a check on a couple of these guys who I
> know, ask  them to operate on 160, and see if I hear them on 80.
> 
> I call B.S. on this site.
> 
> 73- Chuck
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/8/2008 11:56:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> n2icarrl at gmail.com writes:
> 
> http://3655khz.com/shame.html
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