[CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?

N7mal n7mal at citlink.net
Mon Jul 28 18:39:54 EDT 2008

Whoa Pete, put the brakes on. I submit my logs to LOTW after every contest. 
It has become a part of my 'post-contest' routine, as it has for many. I 
don't need/want the ARRL or CQ or NCJ or whoever duplicating my log updates. 
I've been LOTWing since it began and have watched it grow steadily. I think 
'Triple Play' is a good enough incentive to grow LOTW even more. The 'Triple 
Play' award is for individuals who want to voluntarily participate, not a 
free-for-all so someone can get the jump on an award.
There is also still a small segment of our hobby that wants to do QSLing, 
and awards, the old-fashioned way and they should be respected.
Again just my -2cents worth.

Everyone in the world is
entitled to be burdened
by my opinion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Pete Smith
To: VE5ZX ; CQ-Contest at contesting.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:45
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?

At 11:54 AM 7/27/2008, VE5ZX wrote:
>Hopefully this indicates that soon ARRL contest logs will be made public
>... Sylvan
>Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>Saskatoon, SK

I hope so.  I see absolutely no reason for them not to do it.

I understand that the scenario they used to worry about was that K4xx, for
a hypothetical example, would see a QSO with N4xx by a rare station and
write to the manager claiming that it was "just a miscopy."  If the manager
bought that, then he would send a QSL to someone who wasn't "deserving".

Well, this has never made much sense, and it makes even less sense in the
context of open contest logs.  Sure, we need to encourage QSL managers to
ignore such fishing requests, but suppose someone *were* to use this
technique to cheat on DXCC.  That would work until the first time both he
and I applied with cards for the same QSO, at which time he would be *so*

But let's carry the discussion a step further.  Once a station's log in an
ARRL contest has been submitted and checked, why  shouldn't ARRL
automatically enter those QSOs as confirmed in LOTW, if both stations
already have LOTW certificates on file?  It seems to me that this step
would be technically quite manageable, and would be a powerful incentive
for more people to participate in both ARRL contests and LOTW.  Then carry
it a step further, and develop an agreement between ARRL and CQ to do the
same for CQ contests. Even more incentive!

73, Pete N4ZR

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