[CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?

[Gerry Hull]

Richard, Hans, etc....

First of all, you do not keep your log private.  If you kept it private, you
would not submit it to the contest committee, you'd simply keep it to
yourself, and claim victory among your friends.   ARRL and CQ, or any other
contest committee, has the right to determine if a log is to be public or
private.

As has been stated on this reflector, and is clear from the rules, once ARRL
or CQ has the log, it becomes property of the respective organization, and
they can do with it as they wish.  From the ARRL prospective, I'm sure the
CAC will make a future decision about publishing based on rational input.

In the contest world of 2008, these arguments are academic -- CQ has
published the CQWW logs for the past couple of years, and I'm sure, will
continue to do so.   It has just been just pointed out on this reflector
that publishing the logs has helped the committee in resolving some pesky
issues.  So, there are MANY good reasons for publishing the logs.

I just don't buy the "this is the way it's always been done" argument.   In
my opinion, there are more benefits the contest community at large from open
logs than from protecting an individuals rights to the log information.   Of
course, you guys are free to offer a dissenting opinion.

I presume all this fuss and reflector traffic is de to lack of propagation
on the radio, so we all have a lot of time to blather on email.

73, Gerry W1VE
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W <nn3w at cox.net> wrote:

> Oh, so since the the technology for QSO analysis, skimmer, and spot
> analysis
> is readily available, there are no secrets and the argument re: "I keep my
> log prviate so as to not alert the competition" is now void .  Hence, no
> reason to keep the logs private.
>
> You've proven our point for us.  Thanks OM!
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb at earthlink.net>
> To: "K1AR John" <K1AR at aol.com>; "CQ-Contest" <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL and Open Logs - Time for the next step?
>
>
>  > Note to K1AR:
> >
> > See below.  I rest my case.
> >
> > 73, Hans, K0HB
> >
> >>
> >> I already have a software strategy tool which plots the QSO rate and
> >> Mult rate, per band and multi-band, for stations on the CQWW log site
> >> (and any other cabrillo file I import).   Mix that with the live feed
> >> from your existing contest software, and you add another dimension to
> >> the world of contesting - making live strategy decisions based on past
> >> performance.
> >>
> >
> >> 73, Gerry W1V
> >
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