[CQ-Contest] remote use of Skimmer data

David Robbins K1TTT k1ttt at arrl.net
Sat Jun 14 11:23:22 EDT 2008

The spots of stations calling cq are exactly equivalent to human entered dx
spots from the same station, you can not tell them apart (unless you do
busted call analysis on them at this point)... as has even been argued by
many on the side that argues that spots are assistance.    The concept of a
remote receiver comes in if you try to use the non-cq spots to 'hear'
stations calling you.  While I can't believe that would really be much of a
help, I do believe it would fall under the category of a remote receiver
rather than dx alerting.

I think there is definitely significant value to any multi-op in that it
will fill in the band map more completely than human filtered spots.  Humans
tend to only spot interesting stuff, but for those trying to maximize scores
you need to see new qso's as well as new multipliers... and even common
multipliers on rare bands.  As I also have pointed out, skimmer spots WILL
end up in the normal spotting network once the filtering and logistics have
been worked out.  Some nodes already offer them on a limited basis.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:47
> To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] remote use of Skimmer data
> Since Hal, N4GG posted his ingenious "what-if" yesterday, I have tried in
> vain to think of a legitimate use for data derived via Telnet from a
> remote
> CW Skimmer.  Barring evidence of such a use, or even evidence of
> significant value to Unlimited class and multi-op stations, I'm inclined
> to
> suggest a simple, blanket ban on use of such data, which to me is
> tantamount to the use of a remote receiver anyway.
> Meantime, if you want to know what Skimmers in other areas are hearing,
> check out http://skimmer.dxwatch.com .  Better yet, get on the site, and
> call CQ - to see if *you're* being heard in Europe or elsewhere.
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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